Curious for the MSRP only crowd

[Santiago32]

Originally Posted by dannyp

I think that the “buying pieces you don’t want” scenario is more easily explained in reference to those who use “msrp-only” as a proxy for “AD-only” (like me).

Might also apply to those who see desirable watches more as trophies, where being “offered” the watch by an AD is part of the “trophy” itself.

I get that. I myself buy jewelry for my wife. My attitude has always been… I am going to buy it anyways might as well be from my AD.

It’s a game and it’s great if you buy things you already wanted. But if you really wanted a Sea Dweller and bought a “substitution watch” (such as a Panerai) because it‘a available and it moves you closer to get the watch you want. I feel like it may scratch the itch temporarily and never make you truly happy. Of course, if you had a desire for the Panerai then that’s great.

I do know of people that buy things that they did not originally want for the sole purpose of moving up the list. They resell these items for a loss. Those are the behaviors that are odd to me. To your point, we are after the trophy… so to each their own.

[JRell]

Originally Posted by Santiago32

I get that. I myself buy jewelry for my wife. My attitude has always been… I am going to buy it anyways might as well be from my AD.

It’s a game and it’s great if you buy things you already wanted. But if you really wanted a Sea Dweller and bought a “substitution watch” (such as a Panerai) because it‘a available and it moves you closer to get the watch you want. I feel like it may scratch the itch temporarily and never make you truly happy. Of course, if you had a desire for the Panerai then that’s great.

I do know of people that buy things that they did not originally want for the sole purpose of moving up the list. They resell these items for a loss. Those are the behaviors that are odd to me. To your point, we are after the trophy… so to each their own.

I buy jewelry for my wife as well at my AD, this helps and would have bought them regardless. Also - don’t forget about referring people to your AD, especially for jeweler. This also helps.

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by brandrea

I think we all have a line in the sand as to what we will pay. It’s different for everyone

I agree with this 100%

To some, money is no object & can more than afford to pay 2 or 3 times over retail for the watch they want today rather than waiting years for an AD to come through.

To others, me included, every purchase is carefully considered and retail is enough to pay.

To answer your original question though, because of the crazy prices SS sports models are currently commanding, if someone offers me a BLRO at say £3k over retail I probably would snap their hand off thinking I got an absolute bargain!

Thats shows just how crazy this whole situation is getting.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by Santiago32

I do know of people that buy things that they did not originally want for the sole purpose of moving up the list. They resell these items for a loss. Those are the behaviors that are odd to me. To your point, we are after the trophy… so to each their own.

This actually makes some economic sense if one:

1. Has a reasonable risk tolerance.
2. Is ok with paying over MSRP but wants to shrink that spread.
3. Prefers buying from an AD.

For anyone meeting all three of those criteria, it’s a decent move. For those looking for a simple, risk-free transaction at the lowest price, it makes no sense.

[IR201]

Happy to see this great discussion

My opinion - everyone should do whatever makes them HAPPY with no judgment (Iegality assumed)

I believe happiness is the ultimate currency

That said, sometimes immediate gratification over longer term projections/thought can be problematic

It is up to those buying now at grey prices to consider that - but really for all of us to think about and do our best to find the right balance in all aspects of life

But on this forum the judgment hurricane seems overly hurled in one direction - the old school MSRP crowd tends to judge the grey buyers and hoist upon them every negative assumption they can muster - the grey buyers tend to stay in their own lane and leave the MSRP crowd alone and really only criticize them to defend themselves

Those are generalizations and there are exceptions on both sides

Just my perception

Everyone should be happy without judgment or ridicule


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[greggywatchguy]

Originally Posted by IR201

Happy to see this great discussion

My opinion - everyone should do whatever makes them HAPPY with no judgment (Iegality assumed)

I believe happiness is the ultimate currency

That said, sometimes immediate gratification over longer term projections/thought can be problematic

It is up to those buying now at grey prices to consider that - but really for all of us to think about and do our best to find the right balance in all aspects of life

But on this forum the judgment hurricane seems overly hurled in one direction - the old school MSRP crowd tends to judge the grey buyers and hoist upon them every negative assumption they can muster - the grey buyers tend to stay in their own lane and leave the MSRP crowd alone and really only criticize them to defend themselves

Those are generalizations and there are exceptions on both sides

Just my perception

Everyone should be happy without judgment or ridicule


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I think it goes both ways. I see a lot of degrading comments also about how foolish people are who go to ADs, whether it’s saying they can’t afford to ‘flex’ and pay 3x MSRP, or how they are foolish and buying things they don’t want (most aren’t).

I think we can all be kinder to each other but i have definitely seen insults both ways.

[IR201]

Originally Posted by greggywatchguy

I think it goes both ways. I see a lot of degrading comments also about how foolish people are who go to ADs, whether it’s saying they can’t afford to ‘flex’ and pay 3x MSRP, or how they are foolish and buying things they don’t want (most aren’t).

I think we can all be kinder to each other but i have definitely seen insults both ways.

Fair. That should stop too IMO


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[greggywatchguy]

Originally Posted by IR201

Fair. That should stop too IMO


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I liked your post too.

[IR201]

Originally Posted by greggywatchguy

I liked your post too.

Thanks!! I think we should all just unite against the flippers


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[rolexonlywatch]

I don’t even want to pay sales tax. Paying premium at grey market is foolish.


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[kizerman]

Originally Posted by rolexonlywatch

I don’t even want to pay sales tax. Paying premium at grey market is foolish.


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Agreed, but this could get you banned;)

[kizerman]

Originally Posted by xrole

What he said in that particular post (I would be shocked if that particular post got him banned) was bang on point and correct.

Got me a one week ban. I stand by my statement but accepted and understand the ban.

[Mystro]

[kizerman]

Originally Posted by IR201

Happy to see this great discussion

My opinion - everyone should do whatever makes them HAPPY with no judgment (Iegality assumed)


But on this forum the judgment hurricane seems overly hurled in one direction


Everyone should be happy without judgment or ridicule

The word Judgement gets thrown around way too much these days and mostly as an insult to someone. You used it 3 times in one post.

Judgement is simply defined as the process of forming an opinion, something we should not be ashamed of however the "how dare you judge me" movement has made forming opinions shameful.

[IR201]

Originally Posted by kizerman

The word Judgement gets thrown around way too much these days and mostly as an insult to someone. You used it 3 times in one post.

Judgement is simply defined as the process of forming an opinion, something we should not be ashamed of however the "how dare you judge me" movement has made forming opinions shameful.

I think it's fine to form opinions. I also think its important to respect each others opinions/choices.

[kizerman]

Originally Posted by IR201

I think it's fine to form opinions. I also think its important to respect each others opinions/choices.

You can form a conflicting opinion and still be respectful but todays society says differently.

[Snerks]

Originally Posted by IR201

I think it's fine to form opinions. I also think its important to respect each others opinions/choices.

Originally Posted by kizerman

You can form a conflicting opinion and still be respectful but todays society says differently.

The problem is when your opinions are harmful or hurtful to people or society. Racism is an "opinion".

[rolexalias]

Originally Posted by bigmozza

me personally would never pay over retail for any watch no matter what it’s all hype

+1

[Holishi]

Hard to justify when one was raised to shop at the clearance section with extra off and loyalty coupons. Why pay msrp when you can get 80% off, without forgetting credit card points lol