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Cru Jones · 2 June 2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SaddleSC

I think that means you should buy the LVC on Sunday, right?

TempoKing · 2 June 2012, 09:58 AM

Ohh...don't ya all worry...in 6 months you'd forgett all about it

How many increases have... I.... seen ?
Let's say when I bought my first steel sub Ref: 1680 (?)
Brand New in Box
it was $375...and now I need $8,550

Boothroyd · 2 June 2012, 11:20 AM

DJ II smooth bezel is the only watch that seems to be in predicted price range..$7150, my AD thought it would be $7000. But with S&WG DJ II going to $9100....I think the 116300 is going to get a lot of attention. At the expense of the Milgauss as well, given price increases.

Is a new Sub ND worth buying at only a $1000 less than the 116610? Some interesting decisions to made (if you are going by list price).

Perdu · 2 June 2012, 11:24 AM

Count me out. They have gone past my threshold of value v perceived worth.

walterpeppers · 2 June 2012, 11:27 AM

What's the expression? Death, taxes, and Rolex price increases...we cannot escape them.

bewithabob · 2 June 2012, 11:57 AM

Another reason to raise the rent….

Boothroyd · 2 June 2012, 12:03 PM

I am beginning to believe that story that Rolex lost money investing with Bernie Madoff and needs to replenish the coffers!

Interesting though...I agree, Perdu. I used to be able to justify the value of the watch, such that I could see owning 3 or 4, to be bought new from AD. Now, it seems like a luxury and extravagance. So I will likely buy one more and call it a career.

Guess that's why they starting cutting AD's and moving to boutiques. Marini made a conscious decision to reduce unit sales in US and increase revenue simultaneously, moving units to other markets. Smart thing to do if you are not increasing production.

paolo14 · 2 June 2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by psv

Man, I remember when the used prices on a DSSD was $6,500. Those days are long gone...

Sold my LNIB DSSD for only $7200 last year.

I want it back!!!

Megalobyte · 2 June 2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by paolo14

Sold my LNIB DSSD for only $7200 last year.

I want it back!!!

Wish I had been the buyer! I'd sell it back to ya for only $8850! :)

J. Alan · 2 June 2012, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TempoKing

Ohh...don't ya all worry...in 6 months you'd forgett all about it

How many increases have... I.... seen ?
Let's say when I bought my first steel sub Ref: 1680 (?)
Brand New in Box
it was $375...and now I need $8,550

X2 on this. Purchased the wife a brand new 18K Lady Datejust President with diamond vignette dial in 1992 for $11,800. Had my AD evaluate her watch recently for insurance replacement purposes - now $32,800 plus tax!! LIFE GOES ON!!

HOOPLA

J. Alan

P.S.: Still keeping great time after two services.

Duc5150 · 2 June 2012, 03:38 PM

.....people were making 40 years ago when new Daytona's increased in price from $675 to $700.....just sayin'

swiss ghost · 2 June 2012, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AMehta87

I can't believe the Deep Sea is now more expensive than the Daytona...

Appreciate the update though, glad I bought my bluesy a few weeks ago!

deepsea is far more technically advanced than a daytona. i wonder why it wasnt always priced higher. deepsea is the technical marvel of rolexes entire lineup

swiss ghost · 2 June 2012, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paolo14

Sold my LNIB DSSD for only $7200 last year.

I want it back!!!

even last year that was a ridiculously low resale. you got duped.

swiss ghost · 2 June 2012, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megalobyte

Wish I had been the buyer! I'd sell it back to ya for only $8850! :)

you think!!!

paolo14 · 2 June 2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by swiss ghost

even last year that was a ridiculously low resale. you got duped.

I sold it around april of last year. The ongoing price was around 7500 during that time so letting it go for 7200 net wasn't that bad. The price went up to about a thousand more after a month due to the price increase that happened around may. Oh well.....

train-time · 2 June 2012, 09:08 PM

Note to all the trusted sellers out there; when you bump your FS listings that were posted prior to 6/1, don't forget to add 7% to the asking price because your cost of replacement just went up.

bigbear · 2 June 2012, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiss ghost

deepsea is far more technically advanced than a daytona. i wonder why it wasnt always priced higher. deepsea is the technical marvel of rolexes entire lineup

Yes most definitely! The Deepsea is finally getting the respect it deserves

bigbear · 3 June 2012, 12:26 AM

A point is reached where people will just get fedup with the price increases and start questioning whether the product is worth it or not. I believe ROLEX has passed that threshold now, based on the inputs I have read on this thread. General consensus is that the Rolexes are way to expensive for what you are getting.

gimpex · 3 June 2012, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bigbear

A point is reached where people will just get fedup with the price increases and start questioning whether the product is worth it or not. I believe ROLEX has passed that threshold now, based on the inputs I have read on this thread. General consensus is that the Rolexes are way to expensive for what you are getting.

Go back to the previous price increase and read the comments at that time... they sound vaguely similar - just saying

bigbear · 3 June 2012, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by gimpex

Go back to the previous price increase and read the comments at that time... they sound vaguely similar - just saying

You are correct. This type of discussion always occurs after aprice increase and those who so agressively oppose it, are th first ones to go out and buy it.

TempoKing · 3 June 2012, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiss ghost

deepsea is far more technically advanced than a daytona. i wonder why it wasnt always priced higher. deepsea is the technical marvel of rolexes entire lineup

It could be more advanced than the Daytona tech wise
maybe in depth ratings - I am not a watchmaker.
..But..the SDDS will NEVER surpass the Daytona in desireability, in looks,
in status, in beautty, in movement brilliancy etc.

It is not by chance that the SDDS second hand values are
"down there" and considered a "dog" in the second hand traders circles,
when the steel Daytona is the mother of all "I must have" watches.

So Rolex can charge 20 grand if they want...but can't make an unpopular
(albeit high tech) watch an instant star because of price..!
Star status is only ..reserved for the Rolex Daytona.

bigbear · 3 June 2012, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TempoKing

It could be more advanced than the Daytona tech wise
maybe in depth ratings - I am not a watchmaker.
..But..the SDDS will NEVER surpass the Daytona in desireability, in looks,
in status, in beautty, in movement brilliancy etc.

It is not by chance that the SDDS second hand values are
"down there" and considered a "dog" in the second hand traders circles,
when the steel Daytona is the mother of all "I must have" watches.

So Rolex can charge 20 grand if they want...but can't make an unpopular
(albeit high tech) watch an instant star because of price..!
Star status is only ..reserved for the Rolex Daytona.

The DEEPSEA has been tested to the extremes- designed to surivive insane depths. Comes from a legendary history and legacy of divers. The scarcity of the Daytona is a thing of the past. This great recession brought the Daytona down from the undeserved godly status it had, to a more reasonable level- kind of equalized the playing field.

liuk3 · 3 June 2012, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TempoKing

It could be more advanced than the Daytona tech wise
maybe in depth ratings - I am not a watchmaker.
..But..the SDDS will NEVER surpass the Daytona in desireability, in looks,
in status, in beautty, in movement brilliancy etc.

It is not by chance that the SDDS second hand values are
"down there" and considered a "dog" in the second hand traders circles,
when the steel Daytona is the mother of all "I must have" watches.

So Rolex can charge 20 grand if they want...but can't make an unpopular
(albeit high tech) watch an instant star because of price..!
Star status is only ..reserved for the Rolex Daytona.

huh?

swiss ghost · 3 June 2012, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TempoKing

It could be more advanced than the Daytona tech wise
maybe in depth ratings - I am not a watchmaker.
..But..the SDDS will NEVER surpass the Daytona in desireability, in looks,
in status, in beautty, in movement brilliancy etc.

It is not by chance that the SDDS second hand values are
"down there" and considered a "dog" in the second hand traders circles,
when the steel Daytona is the mother of all "I must have" watches.

So Rolex can charge 20 grand if they want...but can't make an unpopular
(albeit high tech) watch an instant star because of price..!
Star status is only ..reserved for the Rolex Daytona.

that was funny

Sean.c · 3 June 2012, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perdu

Count me out. They have gone past my threshold of value v perceived worth.

Totally agreed!

Bisquitlips · 3 June 2012, 01:58 AM

Sheesh! Give it 10 years!

sea-dweller · 3 June 2012, 02:02 AM

Thanks for the info!

VAWATCHGUY · 3 June 2012, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TempoKing

It could be more advanced than the Daytona tech wise
maybe in depth ratings - I am not a watchmaker.
..But..the SDDS will NEVER surpass the Daytona in desireability, in looks,
in status, in beautty, in movement brilliancy etc.

It is not by chance that the SDDS second hand values are
"down there" and considered a "dog" in the second hand traders circles,
when the steel Daytona is the mother of all "I must have" watches.

So Rolex can charge 20 grand if they want...but can't make an unpopular
(albeit high tech) watch an instant star because of price..!
Star status is only ..reserved for the Rolex Daytona.

Considered a "Dog" ??? Wow. Was not aware of that.

Bisquitlips · 3 June 2012, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TempoKing

It could be more advanced than the Daytona tech wise
maybe in depth ratings - I am not a watchmaker.
..But..the SDDS will NEVER surpass the Daytona in desireability, in looks,
in status, in beautty, in movement brilliancy etc.

It is not by chance that the SDDS second hand values are
"down there" and considered a "dog" in the second hand traders circles,
when the steel Daytona is the mother of all "I must have" watches.

So Rolex can charge 20 grand if they want...but can't make an unpopular
(albeit high tech) watch an instant star because of price..!
Star status is only ..reserved for the Rolex Daytona.

I have to agree mostly with Anastasios here. Second hand prices do have a story to tell and the Daytona is a lovely complication in its own right, but I think that every class of Rolex has a "Star" of its own.

Bisquitlips · 3 June 2012, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VAWATCHGUY

Considered a "Dog" ??? Wow. Was not aware of that.

Although a VERY expensive dog!

2 June 2012, 11:20 AM	#243
Boothroyd 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Daniel Location: Minneapolis, MN Watch: Wilsdorf(s) Posts: 10,259	DJ II smooth bezel is the only watch that seems to be in predicted price range..$7150, my AD thought it would be $7000. But with S&WG DJ II going to $9100....I think the 116300 is going to get a lot of attention. At the expense of the Milgauss as well, given price increases. Is a new Sub ND worth buying at only a $1000 less than the 116610? Some interesting decisions to made (if you are going by list price). __________________ Explorer 214270 MK I/Datejust II Black 116300/Tudor Heritage Black Bay Black 79220N

2 June 2012, 11:24 AM	#244
Perdu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Gary Location: GMT-6 Watch: GMT Posts: 3,350	Count me out. They have gone past my threshold of value v perceived worth. __________________ Omega Seamaster 300M GMT Noire Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 8500 Benson 1937 Sterling Silver Hunter

2 June 2012, 11:57 AM	#246
bewithabob "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Bob Location: Dallas, Texas Watch: Daytona Meteorite Posts: 3,417	Another reason to raise the rent…. __________________ meteor flying to Earth onto my wrist... 116509 Daytona Meteorite, 116520 Daytona Black, 116710 GMTIIC, 16013 DATEJUST, CARTIER SANTOS 100 W20090X8, IWC Big Pilot, IWC Top Gun "Everything works out in the end. If it hasn't worked out, it's not the end."

2 June 2012, 12:03 PM	#247
Boothroyd 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Daniel Location: Minneapolis, MN Watch: Wilsdorf(s) Posts: 10,259	I am beginning to believe that story that Rolex lost money investing with Bernie Madoff and needs to replenish the coffers! Interesting though...I agree, Perdu. I used to be able to justify the value of the watch, such that I could see owning 3 or 4, to be bought new from AD. Now, it seems like a luxury and extravagance. So I will likely buy one more and call it a career. Guess that's why they starting cutting AD's and moving to boutiques. Marini made a conscious decision to reduce unit sales in US and increase revenue simultaneously, moving units to other markets. Smart thing to do if you are not increasing production. __________________ Explorer 214270 MK I/Datejust II Black 116300/Tudor Heritage Black Bay Black 79220N

2 June 2012, 03:38 PM	#251
Duc5150 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: TB Location: West Coast Posts: 339	These are same comments.... .....people were making 40 years ago when new Daytona's increased in price from $675 to $700.....just sayin'

2 June 2012, 09:58 AM	#242
TempoKing Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Anastasios Location: Athens Greece Watch: Rolex GMT 1675 Posts: 8,497	Ohh...don't ya all worry...in 6 months you'd forgett all about it How many increases have... I.... seen ? Let's say when I bought my first steel sub Ref: 1680 (?) Brand New in Box it was $375...and now I need $8,550

2 June 2012, 11:27 AM	#245
walterpeppers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 20	What's the expression? Death, taxes, and Rolex price increases...we cannot escape them.

2 June 2012, 09:08 PM	#256
train-time 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Plankton Location: US Watch: less Posts: 4,161	Note to all the trusted sellers out there; when you bump your FS listings that were posted prior to 6/1, don't forget to add 7% to the asking price because your cost of replacement just went up.

3 June 2012, 12:26 AM	#258
bigbear Banned Join Date: May 2012 Location: Big Bear, CA Posts: 80	A point is reached where people will just get fedup with the price increases and start questioning whether the product is worth it or not. I believe ROLEX has passed that threshold now, based on the inputs I have read on this thread. General consensus is that the Rolexes are way to expensive for what you are getting.

3 June 2012, 01:58 AM	#266
Bisquitlips 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Richard Location: USA Watch: YM Deep Space Posts: 12,521	Sheesh! Give it 10 years! __________________ Rolex Yacht-Master 40mm (SS-YG / Deep Space MOP) 16623 Breitling Aerospace Titanium / 18K with UTC. Omega Speedmaster 3510.50 Oris TT1 Pro Diver Regulator 43MM

3 June 2012, 02:02 AM	#267
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	Thanks for the info!

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