New AP’S prediction 2022 thread

[Jsol]

Originally Posted by raclaims

I tried on the rose and green chrono
The steel blue chrono
The yellow gold and blue steel 16202s

Wow is all I can say

They are all amazing!

Dial on the yellow gold is stunning
Green and rose is hot
The new blue steel chrono is so much better than my ROC I got last year

They just crushed it

The boutiques have displays or an event?


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[raclaims]

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[GW44]

Any chance of better pics? Those are just terrible mate Sorry!

How come you got to try the new ‘22 releases on please?

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by GW44

Any chance of better pics? Those are just terrible mate Sorry!

How come you got to try the new ‘22 releases on please?

All animals are equal but some are more equal than others.

[raclaims]

Ungrateful bastard hahahaha

[GW44]

Originally Posted by raclaims

Ungrateful bastard hahahaha

I know, sorry. What did you think of the Khaki dial up close please?

[raclaims]

Originally Posted by GW44

I know, sorry. What did you think of the Khaki dial up close please?

I thought the khaki was great. Looked black in dark lighting so it doesn’t scream green

[GW44]

Originally Posted by raclaims

I thought the khaki was great. Looked black in dark lighting so it doesn’t scream green

Thank you.

Pretty much echos what my contact at AP House said to me yesterday.

[raclaims]

I’m too cheap to pay for Tapatalk premium lol

[macrowatch]

Originally Posted by raclaims

I’m too cheap to pay for Tapatalk premium lol

I know that feeling!

Compared to SS or TI PQ, which do you like better? New Chrono or the PQ?

[Spin27]

That’s amazing!!! Any pics of the case backs?

[GB-man]

Good customers go first! Anything calling your name?

[Zazzles]

Amazing pics! The 16202ST is the ticket for me. I do love how the yellow gold fade is almost like a fully tropical dial.

[guanxi]

Wow that launch did not disappoint, it was everything I imagined and then some, tried all of them on but no pictures allowed as this was the pre launch…16202ST it is for me, ordered placed

Also noticed that no pictures nor videos show the true fumé effect on the rose gold dial’s which in the metal is absolutely stunning!

I will try them all on again with pictures this time next week, cannot wait.

Good hunting everyone!

[eiesh]

Originally Posted by guanxi

Wow that launch did not disappoint, it was everything I imagined and then some, tried all of them on but no pictures allowed as this was the pre launch…16202ST it is for me, ordered placed

Also noticed that no pictures nor videos show the true fumé effect on the rose gold dial’s which in the metal is absolutely stunning!

I will try them all on again with pictures this time next week, cannot wait.

Good hunting everyone!

Did you put in an order for the 26735ST?

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[guanxi]

Originally Posted by eiesh

Did you put in an order for the 26735ST?

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Nope only the 16202ST, unfortunately I could only ‘’order’’ one reference…

[mrN]

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[eiesh]

Originally Posted by mrN

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Congrats and wear it in the best of health

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[XXhours]

I just got my 26240 today, try to make a post, but it dot let me, coz i am too new, and said i need 10points

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[sigma089]

Finally managed to get my Boutique manager on the phone. Told me it's now more important than ever to get a more "diverse" purchasing history. Disappointed to say the least.

I've been on the list for a 15450 in silver for three years - which would be my first AP. Three years of having to wait for that piece alone is stupendous, but it is what it is. Did not ask for a blue dial or a 15202 then, because I fully realized that these are allocated to established clients only.

What really got me was the fact, that he straight up told me it was practically impossible for me to get a 15450 this year, despite the fact they seem to remain in the catalog for at least some time. Don't believe that to be the case, but at least that's what he told me. He wasn't really familiar with the new models yet, so I'm not holding my breath anyway. Cool, so there goes my first AP. I don't like the new dial layout of the 15550 at all and thus won't purchase one if - and that's a big if - I'm ever allocated one.

Honestly, this is ridiculous. I've been collecting watches for more than 15 years and there is absolutely no fun in it anymore. I'm currently in my late 30s, so basically I've been spending my hard-earned cash for watches from the time on I had any disposable income to speak of. But that does not matter and why should it, since there are not any chronological waitlists to speak of, only obscure wishlists.

Without me asking, the manager even tried to convince me, that there were special allocation meetings in Le Brassus for 15202s and now 16202s, where each case is discussed in detail. Who on earth would believe that story? Anyone with a big enough checkbook is able to buy anything they want from AP as long as they also take some of the stuff with them they produce alongside the watch that kept them afloat for the better part of 50 years. I mean I understand that AP wants to sell more than one range of models. But for god's sake, they then need to build stuff that is actually worth going for or obtainable.

Why on earth do I need to purchase a women's watch my wife does not like? Why on earth am I forced to buy a Code I don't like to be able to purchase one of the few models I'm interested in from that company? Since I do not want any of these watches, I would then be forced to sell them to some grey market dealer at discount - because let's face it - NO ONE really wants these watches: they are only purchased to get a RO or ROO. The company does not even build dress watches atm, so I can't even go the Patek route and purchase an heirloom piece dress watch in order to build a purchasing history.

Why can't they just build models based on what clients are asking for? And why on earth is everyone going along with this? Why doesn't everyone realize this is a giant bubble, that is bound to burst as soon as central banks really start raising their interest rates? Who is going to buy these Codes stashed away in some secondary market dealer's basement once crypto goes fully bust and the free loan supply dries up?

These ridiculous resale values just result from the fact, that companies like AP are unwilling to produce what their clients actually want. More and more people are flocking to AP asking for watches they do not really care for, just to be able to purchase a watch they feel like will be rising in value. Which - surprise, surprise - they won't indefinitely. This seems to me like a poor remake of the housing market of 2007 and for AP (and grey market dealers alike) this is not a sustainable business model.

Am I the only one who's absolutely fed up with this situation? It's not like I need to purchase a Cayenne first in order to be allocated a 911. It's not like I need to purchase a Panamera, before I'm able to order a Taycan. I do not want to buy an RS straight out of the showroom - it's a basic 15450, not a 15467.

It's not like AP and all the others would be making any less money if they just gave us what we are asking for. Secondary market prices would plummet of course, but it is not like they would be selling any less watches themselves. What a waste of time.

[thekman]

Originally Posted by sigma089

Finally managed to get my Boutique manager on the phone. Told me it's now more important than ever to get a more "diverse" purchasing history. Disappointed to say the least.

I've been on the list for a 15450 in silver for three years - which would be my first AP. Three years of having to wait for that piece alone is stupendous, but it is what it is. Did not ask for a blue dial or a 15202 then, because I fully realized that these are allocated to established clients only.

What really got me was the fact, that he straight up told me it was practically impossible for me to get a 15450 this year, despite the fact they seem to remain in the catalog for at least some time. Don't believe that to be the case, but at least that's what he told me. He wasn't really familiar with the new models yet, so I'm not holding my breath anyway. Cool, so there goes my first AP. I don't like the new dial layout of the 15550 at all and thus won't purchase one if - and that's a big if - I'm ever allocated one.

Honestly, this is ridiculous. I've been collecting watches for more than 15 years and there is absolutely no fun in it anymore. I'm currently in my late 30s, so basically I've been spending my hard-earned cash for watches from the time on I had any disposable income to speak of. But that does not matter and why should it, since there are not any chronological waitlists to speak of, only obscure wishlists.

Without me asking, the manager even tried to convince me, that there were special allocation meetings in Le Brassus for 15202s and now 16202s, where each case is discussed in detail. Who on earth would believe that story? Anyone with a big enough checkbook is able to buy anything they want from AP as long as they also take some of the stuff with them they produce alongside the watch that kept them afloat for the better part of 50 years. I mean I understand that AP wants to sell more than one range of models. But for god's sake, they then need to build stuff that is actually worth going for or obtainable.

Why on earth do I need to purchase a women's watch my wife does not like? Why on earth am I forced to buy a Code I don't like to be able to purchase one of the few models I'm interested in from that company? Since I do not want any of these watches, I would then be forced to sell them to some grey market dealer at discount - because let's face it - NO ONE really wants these watches: they are only purchased to get a RO or ROO. The company does not even build dress watches atm, so I can't even go the Patek route and purchase an heirloom piece dress watch in order to build a purchasing history.

Why can't they just build models based on what clients are asking for? And why on earth is everyone going along with this? Why doesn't everyone realize this is a giant bubble, that is bound to burst as soon as central banks really start raising their interest rates? Who is going to buy these Codes stashed away in some secondary market dealer's basement once crypto goes fully bust and the free loan supply dries up?

These ridiculous resale values just result from the fact, that companies like AP are unwilling to produce what their clients actually want. More and more people are flocking to AP asking for watches they do not really care for, just to be able to purchase a watch they feel like will be rising in value. Which - surprise, surprise - they won't indefinitely. This seems to me like a poor remake of the housing market of 2007 and for AP (and grey market dealers alike) this is not a sustainable business model.

Am I the only one who's absolutely fed up with this situation? It's not like I need to purchase a Cayenne first in order to be allocated a 911. It's not like I need to purchase a Panamera, before I'm able to order a Taycan. I do not want to buy an RS straight out of the showroom - it's a basic 15450, not a 15467.

It's not like AP and all the others would be making any less money if they just gave us what we are asking for. Secondary market prices would plummet of course, but it is not like they would be selling any less watches themselves. What a waste of time.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. The RO is my favorite sports watch and i was lucky to obtain couple of references prior to the madness however I have not been very lucky in the past year. As much as I love the RO line i cant find anything else the brand makes that I want. It is extremely strange that a company like AP does not make a dress watch. The offshore line is too big and thick for my 6.5 wrist and the code while I don't hate it I don't think buying a 30k watch I am not in love with is fair. At that price i was able to get a Lange 1 a watch I have always coveted. I love many of the new releases and hope to snag one this year but I am not holding my breath since I am not able or willing to buy from the other lines. On the other hand I think Patek and VC's sport models aren't as nice as the RO but their dress line ups are so diverse I could find multiple models I would be willing to bundle to obtain a nautilus or overseas.

[911AP]

Originally Posted by thekman

I think you hit the nail on the head here. The RO is my favorite sports watch and i was lucky to obtain couple of references prior to the madness however I have not been very lucky in the past year. As much as I love the RO line i cant find anything else the brand makes that I want. It is extremely strange that a company like AP does not make a dress watch. The offshore line is too big and thick for my 6.5 wrist and the code while I don't hate it I don't think buying a 30k watch I am not in love with is fair. At that price i was able to get a Lange 1 a watch I have always coveted. I love many of the new releases and hope to snag one this year but I am not holding my breath since I am not able or willing to buy from the other lines. On the other hand I think Patek and VC's sport models aren't as nice as the RO but their dress line ups are so diverse I could find multiple models I would be willing to bundle to obtain a nautilus or overseas.

It's not a bubble yet. People are paying all of these with cash. It can't be compared to housing which was all paid with debt.

Supply is too low compared to demand. Even if interest rates go up it's not going to change anything. If anything people may flock more to watches because stocks will go down. And if stocks go down people go to other things as a hedge (crypto, gold, watches, etc...). As long as supply stays super low, this continues.

People need to stop giving Econ advice on this forum when they aren't qualified.

But I agree it's dumb as fu*k to buy things you don't like to get what you want. Luckily my SA hasn't told me I have to buy a code to get the watch I'm going after. But it's still super aggravating.

[Marciano490]

Is the green dial 39mm platinum or steel? Thought there’d already been a platinum version.

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by marciano490

is the green dial 39mm platinum or steel? Thought there’d already been a platinum version.

16202PT - platinum

[guanxi]

Originally Posted by Marciano490

Is the green dial 39mm platinum or steel? Thought there’d already been a platinum version.

I was wearing my 15202PT when I tried it’s newborn baby brother 16202PT, design is 98% the same and basically undistinguishable from a distance.

If you look closer and/or use a loupe you can see the difference in lugs (different tapered angle) and the mirror polish chamfering is a tiny bit broader…but you really have to look very very closely (nerd alert!). The biggest difference by far is that beautiful modern 7121 movement and the 50th anniversary rotor.

I am very happy with my 15202PT as it had a production run of only 9 months and was the last available model of the 15202 line and the last watch in the industry to feature the legendary 2121 movement (technically the “only watch charity auction” was the last one but only one unique piece, so it doesn’t really count…nerd alert bis!).

[macrowatch]

Now that AP has the display chrono, what incredible value this brings against Patek. For SS patek, I believe only 5968 Aqua chromo is the option at about 50k. Strap only. And here you get basically the same thing, but with bracelet at 20k less.

Or dare I say, for the same price you get ROC and Code versus aqua chrono.

But bottom line, a lot of bang for your the buck on this ROC now.

[Marciano490]

Originally Posted by guanxi

I was wearing my 15202PT when I tried it’s newborn baby brother 16202PT, design is 98% the same and basically undistinguishable from a distance.

If you look closer and/or use a loupe you can see the difference in lugs (different tapered angle) and the mirror polish chamfering is a tiny bit broader…but you really have to look very very closely (nerd alert!). The biggest difference by far is that beautiful modern 7121 movement and the 50th anniversary rotor.

I am very happy with my 15202PT as it had a production run of only 9 months and was the last available model of the 15202 line and the last watch in the industry to feature the legendary 2121 movement (technically the “only watch charity auction” was the last one but only one unique piece, so it doesn’t really count…nerd alert bis!).

Thank you so much for this. I was excited for the 16202PT, but remembered the earlier version and wasn’t sure whether I’d taken crazy pills because I didn’t see any references to your model, which I adore. If you have the time, I’d be grateful for a couple pictures!

[guanxi]

Originally Posted by Marciano490

Thank you so much for this. I was excited for the 16202PT, but remembered the earlier version and wasn’t sure whether I’d taken crazy pills because I didn’t see any references to your model, which I adore. If you have the time, I’d be grateful for a couple pictures!

Cheers, make sure to check out the daily what’s on your wrist thread…I do upload there and lots of yummy stuff by our fellow members!

[ragsk]

I am genuinely surprised that there is not much love for the new Openworked Jumbo. It truly blew me away when I saw the pictures.

[HMHM]

Originally Posted by ragsk

I am genuinely surprised that there is not much love for the new Openworked Jumbo. It truly blew me away when I saw the pictures.

It’s nice… but the printed lettering on the sapphire crystal obscures the view of the movement. Also the colour combination with the ruby is a little off compared to the 41mm openworked.