32xx movement problem poll and data thread

[CharlesN]

Originally Posted by triplock

i built a 3235 .

Wot !!!


No pictures ????????

Which parts needed to be replaced ? What hairspring have you used ?

[WatchSmith]

Originally Posted by CharlesN

Wot !!!


No pictures ????????

Which parts needed to be replaced ? What hairspring have you used ?

I swapped in a genuine balance & bridge, auto wind system, pallet fork and escape wheel, mainspring and barrel, winding crown.

I have pics but I don't think they allow that here.

[Smobews]

Originally Posted by Triplock

About a year and a half ago I built a 3235 using a broken clone movement and adding genuine parts. It has run perfectly since the day I built it. At full wind the amplitude gets in the 270s. This is off the wrist this morning and not getting much winding motion. I think the 3235 is a solid movement. At least my hybrid is.

Lift angle is 53 on 32xx movements, not 55

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by Smobews

Lift angle is 53 on 32xx movements, not 55

A modified clone movement is not a Rolex 3235 caliber and should not be discussed in this thread.

It's not the first time that "Triplock", who said in another thread today that he is a watchmaker, presents a frankenwatch on this board!

https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...4&postcount=26

https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...2&postcount=43

[CharlesN]

The watch is clearly, by his own admission now, a fake.

I just hope it never gets onto the open market and some poor soul gets stung somewhere alomg the line.

I wonder what case it is in and would it qualify for a Rolex service at a RSC ?

[WatchSmith]

Originally Posted by CharlesN

The watch is clearly, by his own admission now, a fake.

I just hope it never gets onto the open market and some poor soul gets stung somewhere alomg the line.

I wonder what case it is in and would it qualify for a Rolex service at a RSC ?

It’s not for sale nor will it ever be. I like to make broken things work again. I have owned Rolex since the late 70s and as much as I love them, I don’t consider them holy relics. They’re a glorious assemblage of springs, bridges, and screws.

[Bizcut1]

You’re bound to upset some here with this. It will mess with their 3235 mantras.

And good for you. Carry on!

PS. For those of you who are stuck on the same record groove on this don’t waste your breath. You’re already blocked. Have a nice weekend.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Bizcut1

Damn! Nice work on this, guys!

I just strap that sucker on and head out.

Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

[Bizcut1]

Not a surprise that you misunderstand who
I am referring to.

[saxo3]

3 days, 3 contributions, 0 content.
Move on!

[Andad]

No surprise as to who you are referring to E.

[Bizcut1]

Ok, pal. Take it easy.

Don’t blow a gasket.

[Tbird]

Wrt to the ball bearing balls increased: is a higher number of bearing balls not just for improved resistance of shocks? The axke in it has more area where it's supported now. Improved shock resistance could also lead to better timekeeping.

[CharlesN]

Originally Posted by Tbird

Improved shock resistance could also lead to better timekeeping.

It Could, But, In this instance unfortunately, It doesn't

[mailman]

Originally Posted by saxo3

A modified clone movement is not a Rolex 3235 caliber and should not be discussed in this thread.

It's not the first time that "Triplock", who said in another thread today that he is a watchmaker, presents a frankenwatch on this board!

https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...4&postcount=26

https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...2&postcount=43

So what's your point? He stated what is is and it isn't for sale. Jocke has posted numerous threads with pics of Rolex watches he has modified. Move on

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by mailman

So what's your point? He stated what is is and it isn't for sale. Jocke has posted numerous threads with pics of Rolex watches he has modified. Move on

The ignore feature is a marvelous invention. Obviously you need it as a moderator

[Mystro]

Way too much effort and weight is given to this “informal” internet poll that ran its course. This is getting into tinfoil hat area with hyper analyzing unverified data by amateurs. Is this time consuming guessing game really fun for some people or is it the drone of endless cowbell that holds the appeal?
It’s a watch forum, not a laboratory.

[maxbelg]

Originally Posted by Mystro

Way too much effort and weight is given to this “informal” internet poll that ran its course. This is getting into tinfoil hat area with hyper analyzing unverified data by amateurs. Is this time consuming guessing game really fun for some people or is it the drone of endless cowbell that holds the appeal?
It’s a watch forum, not a laboratory.

Now we're even starting to analyse fake movements

[padi56]

Originally Posted by brandrea

The ignore feature is a marvelous invention. Obviously you need it as a moderator

Have to agree Brian but only one on my list up till now in well over 15 years on forum.

Originally Posted by Mystro

Way too much effort and weight is given to this “informal” internet poll that ran its course. This is getting into tinfoil hat area with hyper analyzing unverified data by amateurs. Is this time consuming guessing game really fun for some people or is it the drone of endless cowbell that holds the appeal?
It’s a watch forum, not a laboratory.

Have to agree but some like producing data for the sake of producing data, if thats there bag good luck to them. I bought all my Rolex watches to wear on my wrist, and enjoy wearing them for many years all without the aid of todays Rolex toys.

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by Mystro

Way too much effort and weight is given to this “informal” internet poll that ran its course. This is getting into tinfoil hat area with hyper analyzing unverified data by amateurs. Is this time consuming guessing game really fun for some people or is it the drone of endless cowbell that holds the appeal?
It’s a watch forum, not a laboratory.

You said yourself that this is a lot like the well-known Porsche 996 IMS issue, and forums were a major factor in that situation, too. Add that to several well known watchmakers talking about the issues online, and it seems a little odd to me to dismiss it, at this point.

Personally, I find this “laboratory” thread considerably more interesting than a sea of threads about watch fashion and/or unavailability.

[sski]

agree this thread has run its course; as a compromise perhaps its time to shift it to the Watchout!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! section? (giving company to the investment and market analysis threads?)

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by douglasf13

You said yourself that this is a lot like the well-known Porsche 996 IMS issue, and forums were a major factor in that situation, too. Add that to several well known watchmakers talking about the issues online, and it seems a little odd to me to dismiss it, at this point.

Personally, I find this “laboratory” thread considerably more interesting than a sea of threads about watch fashion and/or unavailability.

Everything that can be said, was already repeated numerous times. We are way past the cyclical point.

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by Mystro

Everything that can be said, was already repeated numerous times. We are way past the cyclical point.

It’s a thread for collecting data, and new points of view could certainly chime in. Why are you even reading the thread, if you’re not interested in it?

[Bizcut1]

Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree Brian but only one on my list up till now in well over 15 years on forum.



Have to agree but some like producing data for the sake of producing data, if thats there bag good luck to them. I bought all my Rolex watches to wear on my wrist, and enjoy wearing them for many years all without the aid of todays Rolex toys.

Thank you, Padi. Sanity weighs in finally

Maybe these guys will respect your wise words.

But - I have my doubts.

Let's just move on.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree Brian but only one on my list up till now in well over 15 years on forum.

Same in just under 10 years

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree but some like producing data for the sake of producing data, if thats there bag good luck to them. I bought all my Rolex watches to wear on my wrist, and enjoy wearing them for many years all without the aid of todays Rolex toys.

Well some of us have pointed that out too. More data at this stage is not very helpful. Measurement data anyway.

I buy my watches to wear too. All the way from swatches and seikos and up. None of my other watches touch my timegrapher… I just want these things to work.

The thing is in the face over overwhelming data that this series do have an issue heaps of people deny it. We have seen this issue before in wider society. Do facts matter anymore?
I’m just personally trying to get awareness up so that situations like Art doesn’t happen.

Though this thread may have run it’s course it’s substantially more useful than:

Investment threads
Nicknames
Help me choose my next watch
Which one should I sell
I scratched my watch thread

We are actually still discussing Rolex and a key aspect of the watch. More and more people are dropping.

For me the key thing about this thread is now noting when the issues appear to drop off. But at the moment we still have late models showing issues.


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[Dirt]

Originally Posted by amanbra

Well some of us have pointed that out too. More data at this stage is not very helpful. Measurement data anyway.

I buy my watches to wear too. All the way from swatches and seikos and up. None of my other watches touch my timegrapher… I just want these things to work.

The thing is in the face over overwhelming data that this series do have an issue heaps of people deny it. We have seen this issue before in wider society. Do facts matter anymore?
I’m just personally trying to get awareness up so that situations like Art doesn’t happen.

Though this thread may have run it’s course it’s substantially more useful than:

Investment threads
Nicknames
Help me choose my next watch
Which one should I sell
I scratched my watch thread

We are actually still discussing Rolex and a key aspect of the watch. More and more people are dropping.

For me the key thing about this thread is now noting when the issues appear to drop off. But at the moment we still have late models showing issues.


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Well put.
At it's core the most usefull aspects of this thread have probably morphed.
Simply recording the reported incidences reducing to a number much closer to zero over a given period, may be more beneficial from the perspective of most interested people.
I think it would be great for confirmation of the problem being solved.

[csaltphoto]

Originally Posted by amanbra

Well some of us have pointed that out too. More data at this stage is not very helpful. Measurement data anyway.

I buy my watches to wear too. All the way from swatches and seikos and up. None of my other watches touch my timegrapher… I just want these things to work.

The thing is in the face over overwhelming data that this series do have an issue heaps of people deny it. We have seen this issue before in wider society. Do facts matter anymore?
I’m just personally trying to get awareness up so that situations like Art doesn’t happen.

Though this thread may have run it’s course it’s substantially more useful than:

Investment threads
Nicknames
Help me choose my next watch
Which one should I sell
I scratched my watch thread

We are actually still discussing Rolex and a key aspect of the watch. More and more people are dropping.

For me the key thing about this thread is now noting when the issues appear to drop off. But at the moment we still have late models showing issues.


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This. One of the things that I went with Rolex in the first place was this idea of meticulous engineering and design that results in a robust and accurate movement. So I find this all interesting.

[Michael N Q8]

I have a 2018 BLRO that had this problem. In Jan 2021 is was a mess, losing an excessive amount of time, had high beat errors and inconsistent amplitude. It was serviced and upon return, it performed within the required tolerances (April 2021). I did post this in this thread previously.

I have been wearing some of my other models since then, but recently took the BLRO out to see how its doing. I can say that it is still performing similarly to what it was doing after the service, i.e. as per measurements, it should be doing around +1.3 seconds per day, and its actually doing just under +3 seconds per day.

So it seems that its all good at the moment. I will take more measurements during the week to see how the time keeping goes as the power reserve goes down.

[Michael N Q8]

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