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RFXMM · 4 November 2009, 06:41 AM

Long story short. Friend died has a Daytona at court appointed apraiser. Family will sell it to me. I don't know how to price it. I want a deal which is no problem with family since I will gladdly sell it back at the same price if they feel they want it for whatever reason. It is supposedly TT with a black face. Anyhow what should I look for and what is the most I should pay given that the appraiser is truthful in saying it is complete and original? What would be the no brainer price for any model in any condition? In other words what could I buy any model, movement and materials for and not get hurt without worring about condition in this economy?

datejust1 · 4 November 2009, 06:44 AM

well we'll need pictures...

deserted · 4 November 2009, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by datejust1

well we'll need pictures...

Why!!!!!!

moviefreak · 4 November 2009, 06:45 AM

SS would go for 8,800 usd and Up in good condition papers and all, TT for around 6,800 usd up to 7,400 That would be my estimation.
Just from what I have seen before...

mb hawaii · 4 November 2009, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by moviefreak

ss would go for 8,800 usd and up in good condition papers and all, tt for around 6,800 usd up to 7,400 that would be my estimation.
Just from what i have seen before...

+1

therolexguy · 4 November 2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by moviefreak

SS would go for 8,800 usd and Up in good condition papers and all, TT for around 6,800 usd up to 7,400 That would be my estimation.
Just from what I have seen before...

Sounds about right to me. Good luck.

JBat · 4 November 2009, 06:47 AM

Welcome to TRF.

RFXMM · 4 November 2009, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JBat

Welcome to TRF.

seems like a nice forum.

RFXMM · 4 November 2009, 06:53 AM

I think it will the kind of situation where I have to be prpared when I see it to make my determination. I cannot seem to disrespectful to the family but must cover my own. Therefore I think that asking to take pictures will be a strech. As for papers and boxes, I think that I must assume that there are none as this was a highly publicized murder theft and these were recovered. I am more interested in helping the family and having a keepsake in the memory of my friend. This will not be a buy sell unless they want it back. So I do not want to short change them but do want to have a baseline since they have no interest in watches and that is what it is to them, just a watch.

RFXMM · 4 November 2009, 06:57 AM

And I forgot to add that this may also be charity if it turns out to be fake since I would not ask for the money back. I feel that this is unlikely given my friends nature but I do not know the history.

JohnEaton · 4 November 2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by datejust1

well we'll need pictures...

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Originally Posted by deserted

Why!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by RFXMM

And I forgot to add that this may also be charity if it turns out to be fake since I would not ask for the money back. I feel that this is unlikely given my friends nature but I do not know the history.

Well without pictures we can't tell you if it is a fake... And we don't know if it's an 116523 or a 16523 or something even earlier...

Does it look like this??
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3257/...14ec07c067.jpg

Or this?
http://d1s9sp0odfkn6h.cloudfront.net...3634_large.jpg

Or completely different?

dukester · 4 November 2009, 07:26 AM

RFXMM,

Thats a great gesture! Helping out your friend's family in this difficult time is amazing, we need more thoughtful people like you in this world.

Now to your question: You can find a 3-4 year old Black Face TT Daytona somewhere in the neighborhood of 7,000-7,500 USD with Box and Papers. Since, you are doing this to help out the family and keepsake for your friend's memory - 7K will be a fair deal, irrespective of the box and papers. This will not be short changing the family and you will get your friend's watch with memories. In my opinion, you can never put a price tag to memories and emotinal attachment!

Just my .02

Lane from s.c. · 4 November 2009, 07:34 AM

RFXMM, very sorry about the loss of your friend. I don`t want to seem like a jerk, Just make sure its a good watch. Do you know for certain where he bought it from...just make sure he bought what he thought he was buying.

Lane

Dr.B · 4 November 2009, 07:36 AM

Welcome to TRF

RFXMM · 4 November 2009, 08:23 AM

Thanks for the warm greetings.

tkc324 · 4 November 2009, 09:13 AM

TT Daytonas are going for 7000- 8000 all day on Ebay.
You can pull a search on ebay yourself to see.
Good luck~

RFXMM · 4 November 2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tkc324

TT Daytonas are going for 7000- 8000 all day on Ebay.
You can pull a search on ebay yourself to see.
Good luck~

How do you guys keep straight what is real and what isn't on ebay. I didn't think it was to me trusted as far as Rolex is concerned.

PorscheStan · 4 November 2009, 09:14 AM

Very nice of you...

RFXMM · 4 November 2009, 12:26 PM

Here is the best I can do. Its from a fax.

Z-Sub · 4 November 2009, 12:32 PM

can't tell what it is...

JohnEaton · 4 November 2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-Sub

can't tell what it is...

I'd say an 116523 you can tell by the offset sub dials

RFXMM · 4 November 2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnEaton

I'd say an 116523 you can tell by the offset sub dials

Would that fit into a new purchase between 97 and 04. I remember the last thing he bought was a turn-o-graph and it was "just in", which by the way was never recovered and he was wearing it. And he had the daytona prior to that.

RFXMM · 4 November 2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-Sub

can't tell what it is...

I know that has been the dilemma. In a perfect world I would just pay them what they deserve and forget about it.

Rob_b · 4 November 2009, 12:37 PM

Yep, I say Zenith model, black dial with gold sub dials

I say US$7K

Rob.

Rob_b · 4 November 2009, 12:42 PM

Last Zenith Daytona I believe was 2000

Someone will chime in for sure, but yea, that sounds about right.

Rob

JohnEaton · 4 November 2009, 12:51 PM

Not a Zenith 4030; actually a 4130, year 2000 to present...

I'd say depending on condition $6-7K...

Ask Anastasios [Tempoking] he knows his Daytonas

Rob_b · 4 November 2009, 01:05 PM

But the subdials on the newer black dial Daytona's aren't solid gold colour

But then again the hour battens are too thick for a Zenith

Rob.

JohnEaton · 4 November 2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob_b

But the subdials on the newer black dial Daytona's aren't solid gold colour

But then again the hour battens are too thick for a Zenith

Rob.

Correct Rob, the fax is so low res, the only thing I could look at was the sub dial offset and the shorter fatter markers... Who knows? Without photos, there is still the possibility the faxed photo/scan is of a replica [FAKE] of the 116523.

PS: Was at work earlier and rushed.... RFXMM, sorry about the loss of your friend; and welcome to TRF...
Almost everyone here loves the Daytona, although more lean towards SS than TT

RFXMM · 6 November 2009, 02:34 AM

Thanks for all your help guys.

sturgeon123456 · 6 November 2009, 06:42 AM

Good Luck! Sorry about your friend, i hope the family is doing okay!

4 November 2009, 06:41 AM	#1
RFXMM "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Mark Location: Atl Watch: 16710 Posts: 654	First post Daytona question. Long story short. Friend died has a Daytona at court appointed apraiser. Family will sell it to me. I don't know how to price it. I want a deal which is no problem with family since I will gladdly sell it back at the same price if they feel they want it for whatever reason. It is supposedly TT with a black face. Anyhow what should I look for and what is the most I should pay given that the appraiser is truthful in saying it is complete and original? What would be the no brainer price for any model in any condition? In other words what could I buy any model, movement and materials for and not get hurt without worring about condition in this economy?

4 November 2009, 06:45 AM	#4
moviefreak "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in my house... Posts: 5,524	SS would go for 8,800 usd and Up in good condition papers and all, TT for around 6,800 usd up to 7,400 That would be my estimation. Just from what I have seen before... __________________ Cheers, Eduardo Be a WIS not a WUSS... and remove all the stickers..

4 November 2009, 12:26 PM	#19
RFXMM "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Mark Location: Atl Watch: 16710 Posts: 654	Picture Here is the best I can do. Its from a fax. Attached Images

4 November 2009, 12:32 PM	#20
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	can't tell what it is... __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

4 November 2009, 12:37 PM	#24
Rob_b "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Brisbane AUS Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 850	Yep, I say Zenith model, black dial with gold sub dials I say US$7K Rob. __________________ Travelling Through Time at The Speed of Life.

4 November 2009, 06:44 AM	#2
datejust1 Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: G Location: N/A Watch: N/A Posts: 6,042	well we'll need pictures...

4 November 2009, 06:47 AM	#7
JBat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: Washington Watch: 16710, 16610, DJ Posts: 7,329	Welcome to TRF.

4 November 2009, 06:53 AM	#9
RFXMM "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Mark Location: Atl Watch: 16710 Posts: 654	I think it will the kind of situation where I have to be prpared when I see it to make my determination. I cannot seem to disrespectful to the family but must cover my own. Therefore I think that asking to take pictures will be a strech. As for papers and boxes, I think that I must assume that there are none as this was a highly publicized murder theft and these were recovered. I am more interested in helping the family and having a keepsake in the memory of my friend. This will not be a buy sell unless they want it back. So I do not want to short change them but do want to have a baseline since they have no interest in watches and that is what it is to them, just a watch.

4 November 2009, 06:57 AM	#10
RFXMM "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Mark Location: Atl Watch: 16710 Posts: 654	And I forgot to add that this may also be charity if it turns out to be fake since I would not ask for the money back. I feel that this is unlikely given my friends nature but I do not know the history.

4 November 2009, 07:26 AM	#12
dukester "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Nick Location: Los Angeles Watch: 2 SS Daytonas(W&B) Posts: 542	RFXMM, Thats a great gesture! Helping out your friend's family in this difficult time is amazing, we need more thoughtful people like you in this world. Now to your question: You can find a 3-4 year old Black Face TT Daytona somewhere in the neighborhood of 7,000-7,500 USD with Box and Papers. Since, you are doing this to help out the family and keepsake for your friend's memory - 7K will be a fair deal, irrespective of the box and papers. This will not be short changing the family and you will get your friend's watch with memories. In my opinion, you can never put a price tag to memories and emotinal attachment! Just my .02

4 November 2009, 07:34 AM	#13
Lane from s.c. Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Lane H. Location: fort mill, s.c. Watch: gmt, new in 1985 Posts: 190	RFXMM, very sorry about the loss of your friend. I don`t want to seem like a jerk, Just make sure its a good watch. Do you know for certain where he bought it from...just make sure he bought what he thought he was buying. Lane

4 November 2009, 07:36 AM	#14
Dr.B "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Fernando Location: North Carolina Watch: SS White Daytona Posts: 1,944	Welcome to TRF

4 November 2009, 08:23 AM	#15
RFXMM "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Mark Location: Atl Watch: 16710 Posts: 654	Thanks for the warm greetings.

4 November 2009, 09:13 AM	#16
tkc324 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Tom Location: Chi town Watch: Daytona AP DD Sub Posts: 3,717	TT Daytonas are going for 7000- 8000 all day on Ebay. You can pull a search on ebay yourself to see. Good luck~

4 November 2009, 09:14 AM	#18
PorscheStan "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Stan Location: So California Watch: SS Daytona Black Posts: 147	Very nice of you...

4 November 2009, 12:42 PM	#25
Rob_b "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Brisbane AUS Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 850	Last Zenith Daytona I believe was 2000 Someone will chime in for sure, but yea, that sounds about right. Rob __________________ Travelling Through Time at The Speed of Life.

4 November 2009, 12:51 PM	#26
JohnEaton "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Eaton Location: Nome Alaska USA Watch: Red1680 metres 1st Posts: 1,869	Not a Zenith 4030; actually a 4130, year 2000 to present... I'd say depending on condition $6-7K... Ask Anastasios [Tempoking] *he knows his Daytonas* __________________ Perfection lies not in the organic whole but in the isolated fragment

4 November 2009, 01:05 PM	#27
Rob_b "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Brisbane AUS Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 850	But the subdials on the newer black dial Daytona's aren't solid gold colour But then again the hour battens are too thick for a Zenith Rob. __________________ Travelling Through Time at The Speed of Life. Last edited by Rob_b; 4 November 2009 at 01:08 PM.. Reason: But then again the hour battens are to thick for a Zenith

6 November 2009, 02:34 AM	#29
RFXMM "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Mark Location: Atl Watch: 16710 Posts: 654	Thanks for all your help guys.

6 November 2009, 06:42 AM	#30
sturgeon123456 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 2,551	Good Luck! Sorry about your friend, i hope the family is doing okay!

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