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john1 · 9 December 2009, 03:21 AM

This may be a stupid question but ...

.... can a jubilee bracelet be fitted to a GMT II (non ceramic) without lug holes ?

Have seen lots of pictures here of jubilee on GMT with lug holes, but none without.

Thanks

Akira · 9 December 2009, 03:49 AM

Hi, John, I bought one GMT II with the Oyster and ordered one Jubilee bracelet from one AD in Paris. Waited one month, cause must have be chipped from Geneva, they don't do supply the ADs any more.

No any problem, perfectly matched. A pleasure to wear it. Have not more pics yet.

Speed · 9 December 2009, 03:52 AM

Only $1350 in the US :-(

I was going to order one, but opted not to - yet!

Dan Pierce · 9 December 2009, 03:57 AM

You'll need to make sure you have 502T end pieces for the non lug hole case.

dP

Akira · 9 December 2009, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masugu

Only $1350 in the US :-(

Are we speaking about the Jubilee or the SuperJubilee?

I paid my Jubilee 450 euros last year, in Europe. But the Super should be as you say, about $1350.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

You'll need to make sure you have 502T end pieces for the non lug hole case.

dP

It is a big difference with the 502?

johnliley · 9 December 2009, 05:06 AM

the ends of the jubilee bracelet that fit through the folded links at the horns of the case on a GMT jubilee are different than the jubilee from a Datejust. The springbars of the jubilee are thicker than the Datejust.

Does that make sense? This example has nothing to do with a Super Jubilee BTW.

JL

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Dan Pierce · 9 December 2009, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Are we speaking about the Jubilee or the SuperJubilee?

I paid my Jubilee 450 euros last year, in Europe. But the Super should be as you say, about $1350.

It is a big difference with the 502?

502B's are for the lug hole cases, the 502T's have slots on each side to access the spring pins via a certain tool that I can't remember as all mine have holes.

dP

Speed · 9 December 2009, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

You'll need to make sure you have 502T end pieces for the non lug hole case.

dP

Dan

will the 502 t pieces fit on the older jubilee? The one with the visible clasp?

That one is half the price of the super. Thinking of getting that on my Coke D series.

john1 · 9 December 2009, 06:21 AM

Fantastic ! Thank you all very much for your help.

JohnEaton · 9 December 2009, 07:05 AM

I have the "old style" jubilee for now...

One day the super jubilee

Also noticed the bracelet and SELs from my LV Sub fit perfectly

Newportkrieger · 9 December 2009, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

502B's are for the lug hole cases, the 502T's have slots on each side to access the spring pins via a certain tool that I can't remember as all mine have holes.

dP

Will the 502T's work in a GMT with lug holes in the case?

thanks

Speed · 9 December 2009, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnEaton

I have the "old style" jubilee for now...

One day the super jubilee

Also noticed the bracelet and SELs from my LV Sub fit perfectly

John,

Do you have the bracelet with small clasp / hollow center and Hollow 502 T end links??

Thanks!

PanosI · 9 December 2009, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masugu

Dan

will the 502 t pieces fit on the older jubilee? The one with the visible clasp?

That one is half the price of the super. Thinking of getting that on my Coke D series.

The jubilee bracelet with the visible clasp is the 62510H one.
You must have the 502T end links in order to use it with the non lug holes cases.

JJ Irani · 9 December 2009, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newportkrieger

Will the 502T's work in a GMT with lug holes in the case?

thanks

I don't think so.......because that "T" indicates that those links have been designed for a case WITHOUT lug-holes.

JJ

Dan Pierce · 9 December 2009, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newportkrieger

Will the 502T's work in a GMT with lug holes in the case?

thanks

Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanosI

The jubilee bracelet with the visible clasp is the 62510H one.
You must have the 502T end links in order to use it with the non lug holes cases.

Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

I don't think so.......because that "T" indicates that those links have been designed for a case WITHOUT lug-holes.

JJ

The 502T's fit my 16710 w/ lug holes just fine.

The only difference between the 502B's and 502T's are the 502T has side notches to access the spring pins.
dP

Tools · 9 December 2009, 07:44 AM

502 T's will work with either watch style..

502 B's will only work with the lug-hole cases, unless you grind the slots in the back to be able to get to the spring bars..

Both are designed to work with the 2mm spring bars and the thinner 1.8mm bars will cause it to fit loosley..

JJ Irani · 9 December 2009, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

502 T's will work with either watch style..

502 B's will only work with the lug-hole cases, unless you grind the slots in the back to be able to get to the spring bars..

Both are designed to work with the 2mm spring bars and the thinner 1.8mm bars will cause it to fit loosley..

Thanks, Larry and Dan.....

Larry, a question: Do you know as a general rule of thumb which Rolex models come with 2 mm spring-bars and which ones come with the 1.8 mm?

Thanks - JJ

Tools · 9 December 2009, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Thanks, Larry and Dan.....

Larry, a question: Do you know as a general rule of thumb which Rolex models come with 2 mm spring-bars and which ones come with the 1.8 mm?

Thanks - JJ

That's an interesting question... and a baffling one..

The Sub, GMT, and Exp II, and SD all have 2mm springbars..

The Daytona, though, has the 1.8mm springbars.....

However, all these have bracelets that will interchange....but you need the correct bars for the bracelet...not for the watch model..

I have not got my hands on the new Super Jubilee yet, so cannot say if it has 1.8mm spring-bars (or spring bar holes), as I suspect it might have..

JJ Irani · 9 December 2009, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

That's an interesting question... and a baffling one..

The Sub, GMT, and Exp II, and SD all have 2mm springbars..

The Daytona, though, has the 1.8mm springbars.....

However, all these have bracelets that will interchange....but you need the correct bars for the bracelet...not for the watch model..

I have not got my hands on the new Super Jubilee yet, so cannot say if it has 1.8mm spring-bars (or speing bar holes), as I suspect it might have..

Thanks, Larry............but wouldn't it have been easier if Rolex had just stuck with ONE size which would fit through any SEL link?

JJ

Tools · 9 December 2009, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Thanks, Larry............but wouldn't it have been easier if Rolex had just stuck with ONE size which would fit through any SEL link?

JJ

Can't say...but I would like to sit down with a Rolex design engineer for a few hours.........

JJ Irani · 9 December 2009, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Can't say...but I would like to sit down with a Rolex design engineer for a few hours.........

Give me a buzz if you need an ideas, buddy!!

Perdu · 9 December 2009, 11:42 AM

Nice photo, John. I've always liked the GMT on the Jubillee.

JohnEaton · 10 December 2009, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masugu

John,

Do you have the bracelet with small clasp / hollow center and Hollow 502 T end links??

Thanks!

Yes, yes and yes

62510-H Bracelet with 502-T end links
Thanks for asking

One day a super jubilee though

JohnEaton · 10 December 2009, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perdu

Nice photo, John. I've always liked the GMT on the Jubillee.

Thank you, it is striking

Not so much because it is mine...

It was STRIKING whenever I saw Dan's photos of his COKE on jubilee, after drooling on my keyboard I decided one day I would have one

Alsey · 10 December 2009, 04:58 AM

Larry and John I would love to see more pix of those GMT's....looks incredible.

BTW anyone ever see a Sub or SD with a Jubilee....?

Dan Pierce · 10 December 2009, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnEaton

Thank you, it is striking

Not so much because it is mine...

It was STRIKING whenever I saw Dan's photos of his COKE on jubilee, after drooling on my keyboard I decided one day I would have one

John, your latest stunning pics will sell many more GMT/ jubilee combos.

dP

JJ Irani · 10 December 2009, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

John, your latest stunning pics will sell many more GMT/ jubilee combos.

dP

Agreed!!

You initiated it, Dan........looks like John's going to end it!!

Speed · 10 December 2009, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnEaton

Yes, yes and yes

62510-H Bracelet with 502-T end links
Thanks for asking

One day a super jubilee though

Thanks John!

JohnEaton · 10 December 2009, 09:44 AM

Thanks Dan, JJ, and masugu

(why don't you post at least your first name on your avatar?)

Maybe I'll shoot a few new watch photos here tomorrow:

What's a nice Christmas watch? COKE, Daytona or LV???

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john1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 86	Fantastic ! Thank you all very much for your help. __________________ SS Daytona 116520 Black & 116520 White SS Seadweller 16600, SS Sub 14060M & SS Sub Date 16610 SS Explorer II 16570 White SS GMT II 16710 IWC Portuguese Chronograph

9 December 2009, 03:49 AM	#2
Akira "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Oleg Location: LondonParisMoscow Watch: 16710RB, 14060M Posts: 255	Hi, John, I bought one GMT II with the Oyster and ordered one Jubilee bracelet from one AD in Paris. Waited one month, cause must have be chipped from Geneva, they don't do supply the ADs any more. No any problem, perfectly matched. A pleasure to wear it. Have not more pics yet.

9 December 2009, 03:52 AM	#3
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Only $1350 in the US :-( I was going to order one, but opted not to - yet!

9 December 2009, 07:05 AM	#11
JohnEaton "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Eaton Location: Nome Alaska USA Watch: Red1680 metres 1st Posts: 1,869	I have the "old style" jubilee for now... One day the super jubilee Also noticed the bracelet and SELs from my LV Sub fit perfectly __________________ Perfection lies not in the organic whole but in the isolated fragment

9 December 2009, 07:44 AM	#17
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	502 T's will work with either watch style.. 502 B's will only work with the lug-hole cases, unless you grind the slots in the back to be able to get to the spring bars.. Both are designed to work with the 2mm spring bars and the thinner 1.8mm bars will cause it to fit loosley.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

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Perdu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Gary Location: GMT-6 Watch: GMT Posts: 3,350	Nice photo, John. I've always liked the GMT on the Jubillee. __________________ Omega Seamaster 300M GMT Noire Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 8500 Benson 1937 Sterling Silver Hunter

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Alsey "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangkok Watch: GMT II C Posts: 217	Larry and John I would love to see more pix of those GMT's....looks incredible. BTW anyone ever see a Sub or SD with a Jubilee....?

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JohnEaton "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Eaton Location: Nome Alaska USA Watch: Red1680 metres 1st Posts: 1,869	Thanks Dan, JJ, and masugu (why don't you post at least your first name on your avatar?) Maybe I'll shoot a few new watch photos here tomorrow: What's a nice Christmas watch? COKE, Daytona or LV??? __________________ Perfection lies not in the organic whole but in the isolated fragment

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