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shortsqueeze · 9 December 2009, 06:18 AM

Hi All,

I posted an intro, but I don't think it's been approved by the mods yet.

A semi-local AD has a Z serial (I think the 2nd digit was a 2) 16710 BLRO for sale, brand new, been in the case for at least 1.5 years. It's sticker is $5750, he's willing to sell it to me for $5400, and if I pay with cash, $5200. For $35 he will ship it to me (out of state) and not charge me sales tax, so all-in cost is $5235. I negotiated hard but he will not budge.

It has the stick markers, but obviously I have no way of knowing if it has the upgraded movement (3186).

What do you think?

Best,
Josh

SLS · 9 December 2009, 06:22 AM

That is a good price from an AD. BNIB 16710 GMT's are getting much harder to find these days. You can find one for less over in the for sale section of this forum, albeit pre-owned.
Scott

scottschoe · 9 December 2009, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shortsqueeze

It has the stick markers, but obviously I have no way of knowing if it has the upgraded movement (3186).

What do you think?

Best,
Josh

It doesn't.

As stated above, those are pretty hard to buy new from AD's these days, but cheaper ones can be found if you don't need the AD experience.

Tools · 9 December 2009, 08:20 AM

That is a very good price for a GMT 16710 from an AD....

It doesn't matter what the movement is......

Speed · 9 December 2009, 08:29 AM

A BNIB Pepsi. Nice.

Man, if you can find a Minty pre-owned one on TRF, you could save a grand or so. Worth some looking...or just grab this one and don't look back.

slcbbrown · 10 December 2009, 12:54 AM

That's a pretty good price.

normandy · 10 December 2009, 01:17 AM

That's a good deal, I think it almost definitely has 3185 movement.

It's getting harder and harder to find 16710 BNIB at AD, Grab it while you can

Speed · 10 December 2009, 01:27 AM

Well???

padi56 · 10 December 2009, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

That is a very good price for a GMT 16710 from an AD....

It doesn't matter what the movement is......

Have to agree with Larry and the stick markers are just a different font change nothing more nothing less.

1000ftSub · 10 December 2009, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLS

That is a good price from an AD. BNIB 16710 GMT's are getting much harder to find these days. You can find one for less over in the for sale section of this forum, albeit pre-owned.
Scott

indeed!

shortsqueeze · 10 December 2009, 03:17 AM

Thanks Guys!

I'll let you know soon what the outcome is ...

BTW: When it comes to filling out the warranty card/cert, can it be left blank, should it be left blank? I'm thinking if for some reason I were to sell this at some point (hopefully not) down the road, would it be better for my name to not be listed, or will the AD not even allow it to be left blank?

Speed · 10 December 2009, 06:47 AM

Warranty is only 2 years right??? I don't know as I buy pre owned...

So if you sell after that time it is sort of irrelevant. Less relevant with 16710 blro since it has been discontinued.

shortsqueeze · 10 December 2009, 07:27 AM

2 years, correct. And I assume that warranty service can be performed by any ARC/AD, not just the one I may buy from?

Curious, why irrelevant? Do they not maintain parts for the 16710 BLRO?

WatchTimes · 10 December 2009, 08:44 AM

What is BLRO ?

Im sure I will whack myself in the head and say DOH
Of course thats what it is!

alphamale2012 · 10 December 2009, 09:40 AM

I got a Z series for 2900 sterling last year if that helps.

Perdu · 10 December 2009, 10:13 AM

BLRO = Blue/Rouge.

omg · 10 December 2009, 10:33 AM

I paid list but no tax for mind last year.
I am pretty sure it's 3186 from the wiggle test.
But after have it for a while I don't think movement is matter anymore.
It's just purely awesome and classic timepiece. It's a real keeper.

vukotab · 10 December 2009, 11:00 AM

That`s good deal for such classic!
And I really wouldn`t bother about it`s movement, point is that it`s BNIB, and for a fair price!

Speed · 10 December 2009, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shortsqueeze

2 years, correct. And I assume that warranty service can be performed by any ARC/AD, not just the one I may buy from?

Curious, why irrelevant? Do they not maintain parts for the 16710 BLRO?

Sorry my bad. Forgot that you are buying from an AD so your warrnty will be good for 2 years. Thought you were concerned about resale and you were thinking warranty matters to the next buyer.

Parts will be around

FWIW, you probably won't have to rely on the warranty. Likely nothing will go wrong.

Deyn Man · 10 December 2009, 11:38 AM

bro had a coke gmt II from way back but flipped it along the way... a few rolexes (and other brands) down the road, his local AD gave him a call because they had a Pepsi GMTII, NIB... he instantly bought it...

now, he's thinking of flipping a few of his watches to get himself a nice gift when he turns 40 next year... asked him if he would sell his pepsi to me and he said NO!!!!!

anyways, point is... get that pepsi GMT II! good enough price, BNIB, and arguably a CLASSIC!!!!!

train-time · 10 December 2009, 11:41 AM

Great watch, tough to find new in an ADs case and the cash price is good too

shortsqueeze · 10 December 2009, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masugu

Thought you were concerned about resale and you were thinking warranty matters to the next buyer.

As a contingency I thought that would be important, in the event I needed to flip it < 2 years from now. I hope that is not the case. But in the event, if my name is on the card, the warranty only applies to the original purchases, correct? And do I have a "right" to ask the AD not to put my name on the card?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deyn Man

bro had a coke gmt II from way back but flipped it along the way... a few rolexes (and other brands) down the road, his local AD gave him a call because they had a Pepsi GMTII, NIB... he instantly bought it...

now, he's thinking of flipping a few of his watches to get himself a nice gift when he turns 40 next year... asked him if he would sell his pepsi to me and he said NO!!!!!

anyways, point is... get that pepsi GMT II! good enough price, BNIB, and arguably a CLASSIC!!!!!

I hear you!!!

I am hopeful this is a done deal tomorrow. We shall see!

karmatp · 10 December 2009, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

That is a very good price for a GMT 16710 from an AD....

It doesn't matter what the movement is......

Exactly, the movement means nothing, it's all hype anyway. Best of luck with your purchase.

shortsqueeze · 10 December 2009, 12:14 PM

But after Mosco's thread ... I hope it's real!

JohnBoy · 10 December 2009, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shortsqueeze

But after Mosco's thread ... I hope it's real!

A sweet watch, but...Wow! Even a 'semi-local' AD should be safe - its BNIB and they only buy those from the factory, no? Otherwise, I would hope that they would sell it at super-good discount as a 'pre-owned.' Do you think that they are tooling up to the degree Greg described for the older models? If so, double ouch! Good luck in your purchase...

submariner16610 · 10 December 2009, 12:43 PM

i think the 3186 movement started on the m series 16710. last production..fair price for a bnew one. that has the 3185 movement. but both are equally good .....that's a collectors item already..pepsi

springer · 10 December 2009, 01:10 PM

Sounds nice, especially since they have been discontinued.

tinstar · 10 December 2009, 01:37 PM

That's a good deal!

They are not making any more of them.

Get it while you can.

If you don't, PM me the AD info and I will get it!!

Speed · 10 December 2009, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shortsqueeze

As a contingency I thought that would be important, in the event I needed to flip it < 2 years from now. I hope that is not the case. But in the event, if my name is on the card, the warranty only applies to the original purchases, correct? And do I have a "right" to ask the AD not to put my name on the card?

Hmm. Sorry. Don't know. Never bought a Rolex from an AD. However, an Omega AD sold me my Speedy with a blank card.

9 December 2009, 06:18 AM	#1
shortsqueeze 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 85	Is this a good deal on a GMT Master II BLRO? Hi All, I posted an intro, but I don't think it's been approved by the mods yet. A semi-local AD has a Z serial (I think the 2nd digit was a 2) 16710 BLRO for sale, brand new, been in the case for at least 1.5 years. It's sticker is $5750, he's willing to sell it to me for $5400, and if I pay with cash, $5200. For $35 he will ship it to me (out of state) and not charge me sales tax, so all-in cost is $5235. I negotiated hard but he will not budge. It has the stick markers, but obviously I have no way of knowing if it has the upgraded movement (3186). What do you think? Best, Josh

9 December 2009, 06:22 AM	#2
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	That is a good price from an AD. BNIB 16710 GMT's are getting much harder to find these days. You can find one for less over in the for sale section of this forum, albeit pre-owned. Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

9 December 2009, 08:20 AM	#4
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	That is a very good price for a GMT 16710 from an AD.... It doesn't matter what the movement is...... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

10 December 2009, 08:44 AM	#14
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	What is BLRO ? Im sure I will whack myself in the head and say DOH Of course thats what it is! __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

10 December 2009, 10:13 AM	#16
Perdu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Gary Location: GMT-6 Watch: GMT Posts: 3,350	BLRO = Blue/Rouge. __________________ Omega Seamaster 300M GMT Noire Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 8500 Benson 1937 Sterling Silver Hunter

9 December 2009, 08:29 AM	#5
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	A BNIB Pepsi. Nice. Man, if you can find a Minty pre-owned one on TRF, you could save a grand or so. Worth some looking...or just grab this one and don't look back.

10 December 2009, 12:54 AM	#6
slcbbrown "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: steve Location: dallas area Watch: 50's TT t-bird Posts: 3,689	That's a pretty good price.

10 December 2009, 01:17 AM	#7
normandy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Dominic Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,183	That's a good deal, I think it almost definitely has 3185 movement. It's getting harder and harder to find 16710 BNIB at AD, Grab it while you can

10 December 2009, 01:27 AM	#8
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Well???

10 December 2009, 03:17 AM	#11
shortsqueeze 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 85	Thanks Guys! I'll let you know soon what the outcome is ... BTW: When it comes to filling out the warranty card/cert, can it be left blank, should it be left blank? I'm thinking if for some reason I were to sell this at some point (hopefully not) down the road, would it be better for my name to not be listed, or will the AD not even allow it to be left blank?

10 December 2009, 06:47 AM	#12
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Warranty is only 2 years right??? I don't know as I buy pre owned... So if you sell after that time it is sort of irrelevant. Less relevant with 16710 blro since it has been discontinued.

10 December 2009, 07:27 AM	#13
shortsqueeze 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 85	2 years, correct. And I assume that warranty service can be performed by any ARC/AD, not just the one I may buy from? Curious, why irrelevant? Do they not maintain parts for the 16710 BLRO?

10 December 2009, 09:40 AM	#15
alphamale2012 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Sam Location: UK Posts: 1,305	I got a Z series for 2900 sterling last year if that helps.

10 December 2009, 10:33 AM	#17
omg Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Tommy Location: US Posts: 260	I paid list but no tax for mind last year. I am pretty sure it's 3186 from the wiggle test. But after have it for a while I don't think movement is matter anymore. It's just purely awesome and classic timepiece. It's a real keeper.

10 December 2009, 11:00 AM	#18
vukotab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Vukota Brajovi Location: Belgrade,Serbia Watch: ing movies! Posts: 3,812	That`s good deal for such classic! And I really wouldn`t bother about it`s movement, point is that it`s BNIB, and for a fair price! __________________ My fashion blog and Instagram: https://stylebyvukota.com/ https://instagram.com/vukotabrajovic/

10 December 2009, 11:38 AM	#20
Deyn Man "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Dean Location: Philippines Posts: 1,037	bro had a coke gmt II from way back but flipped it along the way... a few rolexes (and other brands) down the road, his local AD gave him a call because they had a Pepsi GMTII, NIB... he instantly bought it... now, he's thinking of flipping a few of his watches to get himself a nice gift when he turns 40 next year... asked him if he would sell his pepsi to me and he said NO!!!!! anyways, point is... get that pepsi GMT II! good enough price, BNIB, and arguably a CLASSIC!!!!!

10 December 2009, 11:41 AM	#21
train-time 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Plankton Location: US Watch: less Posts: 4,161	Great watch, tough to find new in an ADs case and the cash price is good too

10 December 2009, 12:14 PM	#24
shortsqueeze 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 85	But after Mosco's thread ... I hope it's real!

10 December 2009, 12:43 PM	#26
submariner16610 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: united states Watch: submariner,daytona Posts: 707	i think the 3186 movement started on the m series 16710. last production..fair price for a bnew one. that has the 3185 movement. but both are equally good .....that's a collectors item already..pepsi

10 December 2009, 01:10 PM	#27
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	Sounds nice, especially since they have been discontinued. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

10 December 2009, 01:37 PM	#28
tinstar "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southwest Posts: 270	That's a good deal! They are not making any more of them. Get it while you can. If you don't, PM me the AD info and I will get it!! __________________ 1991 GMT-II Coke 2007 Exp II White 2007 GMT-IIc 2008 Sub Date 2008 Seadweller 2ea. 2008 GMT-II 3186 Coke (late "M")

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