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stephenj5 · 19 December 2009, 03:27 PM

I received my Rolex as a gift a few years ago. For awhile it has little things that it would do that I didnt think a Rolex should do. Actually for awhile I thought it was fake, but it isnt.

However, recently my watch has stopped ticking. I dont wear it often, so every time I put it on I have to let it wind itself up. But the last time I wore it, it would tick. Nothing seems to be loose, hands are fine, except the second hand no longer moves.

Now im sure its in desperate need of a service. But im not sure if this is something that can be fixed alone, without a service or if im just going to have to do it. They are pricey and being a college student, something I cant really pay for atm lol. Just wondering what might be wrong with it and what needs to be done to fix it. And aside from the service, what can I do?

Thank you for any advice and help.

Tools · 19 December 2009, 04:28 PM

Have you wound it up............

There are a lot of things that could cause it to stop, but you should never let it "wind itself up". If it has stopped, you should give it at least 20 winds, and even a full wind of 40 would be better..

lakeros · 19 December 2009, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Have you wound it up............

There are a lot of things that could cause it to stop, but you should never let it "wind itself up". If it has stopped, you should give it at least 20 winds, and even a full wind of 40 would be better..

I totally agree!

stephenj5 · 19 December 2009, 06:04 PM

Sorry, this information might get posted twice, tried the quick respond, but that has to be approved, didnt realize that lol.

But I have wound it. I am still learning a lot about these watches, so as far as I can tell, I am doing it correctly, but I dont think it feels right, its always felt like this since ive gotten it. Ill wind it, and it feels weird, I wouldnt say crunchy, but its like a grinding almost, just not as smooth as I think it would be. I havent had opportunity of playing with a new rolex, or one that has been taken care of. So all I have to experience is this watch, and even I dont think it feels right.

One other note to add, is the day before it stopped ticking, I did have it on and was playing with my dog, throwing my hands around a bit more then I probably should have with the watch on, so maybe I knocked something out of place.

But thank you for the quick response. and sorry if this becomes a double post lol.

Tools · 20 December 2009, 03:25 AM

Well, if you have wound it properly and it still doesn't go, it needs to be looked at..

It could be a broken mainspring, but your description doesn't seem like that's it.. It could also be that a simple cleaning will do the trick as you haven't mentioned how old it is..

Subs are pretty tough.. It should take more than throwing your hand around a bit to break something that wasn't already suspect..

stephenj5 · 20 December 2009, 06:15 AM

Personally, I have had the watch for almost 4 years now, and before that, I couldnt tell you if it came to me new, or used. So the actual age of the watch is unknown to me. I received it in a green box from a jeweler, no documentation or anything. So I believe that it has had a previous owner. But with occasional usage, im sure it could use a cleaning. Or at least re lubricated.

Lol-x · 20 December 2009, 04:26 PM

I think it most likely would be back to full health with a simple service/lube.

Nicko · 20 December 2009, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephenj5

Sorry, this information might get posted twice, tried the quick respond, but that has to be approved, didnt realize that lol.

But I have wound it. I am still learning a lot about these watches, so as far as I can tell, I am doing it correctly, but I dont think it feels right, its always felt like this since ive gotten it. Ill wind it, and it feels weird, I wouldnt say crunchy, but its like a grinding almost, just not as smooth as I think it would be. I havent had opportunity of playing with a new rolex, or one that has been taken care of. So all I have to experience is this watch, and even I dont think it feels right.

One other note to add, is the day before it stopped ticking, I did have it on and was playing with my dog, throwing my hands around a bit more then I probably should have with the watch on, so maybe I knocked something out of place.

But thank you for the quick response. and sorry if this becomes a double post lol.

Could you post some pictures of the watch, you have sparked some curiosity as I own a Sub as well, and nothing you have said happens to mine. Post some good pictures of the watch if you could.

ayres · 21 December 2009, 02:27 AM

yep, if you post a pic and/or repeat the letter at the beginning of the serial (found between the lugs - meaning you have to remove the bracelet), we could maybe advise you better. also, how was the accuracy of the watch in the four years you've owned it? meaning, did you ever notice that it might have been a few minutes off after a few days of wearing it?

so the watch had no previous documentation when you purchased it? it could be possible that the watch was plagued with problems when you purchased it.

also, you mentioned that it did little things you thought were strange. like what? did it make sounds other than the ticking sound? it is true that sometimes one is unaware of a problem until it culminates in a bigger problem.

stephenj5 · 21 December 2009, 05:20 AM

Ill gladly put some pictures up, edit: found a video to remove the band

And yes, when I received the watch, had no documentation once so ever, but it was a gift, so the possibility that I just never received it when i got it is very good. And that they might still have it. But coming in a small green box with the jewelers logo on it, im not expecting much.

As far as weird little things I thought were strange, everytime I went to change the date, engaging it was extremely tricky, I could pull the crown out (sorry, actually name is eluding me atm.) and change the time no problem, but getting it into the first posistion for the date is extremely tricky and requires me to go back and forth a few times to get it. I would think it would be easier and more noticable when it engaged, but ive never tried it on another watch. And for the cog itself, for the longest time I was never able to screw it back in, it was always out leaving the threads and seal exposed. I thought that the threads had been stripped so I left it. But eventually I was able to screw it in. It is a tight fit, and requires a bit of force to screw it all the way in, has the same crunchy feel as when I wind it up. But those were the two major things I noticed.

As far as time goes. I think it was fairly accurate, but I did occasionally notice it being off at times. Its been a while since this issue arose, so trying to remember if it got a little faster or slower.

But ill work on getting the pictures. and thanks all for the help :) much appreciated.

stephenj5 · 21 December 2009, 06:15 AM

Ok, So I took some pictures, sorry for the blueish light and the finger prints on some of the pictures lol.

I did remove the band, to find no serial number... It has the little crown itched in the glass at the south position, has the little swiss in there, has Rolex's signature second hand sweep, but no serial. So all i can guess is that this isnt an original body. Or that it is a really good fake lol.

Images are a bit big, and if you need better lighting, ill gladly retake the photos, just took these real quick.

Nicko · 21 December 2009, 06:18 AM

That's cuz it's a 4000 foot FAKE!

Nicko · 21 December 2009, 06:19 AM

And a bad one at that!

stephenj5 · 21 December 2009, 06:19 AM

well that explains a lot haha. always had that feeling, but just went with it. Some gift eh lol

Nicko · 21 December 2009, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Actually for awhile I thought it was fake, but it isnt.

And who the hell told you it wasn't? They need to be flogged....

stephenj5 · 21 December 2009, 06:28 AM

Yeah its been so long, and even the research I did wasnt that good. Never payed that much attention to the 4000. I feel quite embarrassed lol, taking up your guys time for a fake, should have really looked into it a lot more long ago. At least I know now.

Nicko · 21 December 2009, 06:32 AM

Well, if someone gave me a Sub as a gift I would surely remember who gave it to me

So, my advice to you is toss that POS in the can and go look for a real one if you want one badly enough. And mail back the pieces to your forgotten gifter.

Best of luck to you.

stephenj5 · 21 December 2009, 06:34 AM

Well I remember who have it to me, was a gift from my aunt, but im not sure if she knew it was real or not. But hopefully ill be a proud owner of a real one one of these days.

But thank you all for sticking with me through this lol.

Nicko · 21 December 2009, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephenj5

Well I remember who have it to me, was a gift from my aunt, but im not sure if she knew it was real or not. But hopefully ill be a proud owner of a real one one of these days.

But thank you all for sticking with me through this lol.

Well, let it rest then....I'm sure her intentions were in the right place. Good luck and save for the real think if finances permit.

ayres · 21 December 2009, 07:07 AM

yep, a lot of red flags on that one. i didn't even notice the feet. rather, i noticed the dial's minutes markers (correct term?), the a-serial's 'swiss' with the contradictory no lug-holes case. but sure, there's so many more flags (case shape, bracelet, clasp, bezel, crown guards, etc). the slightest bit of research would have shown you that it was incorrect.

the good news is that the movement will be inexpensive to fix.

19 December 2009, 03:27 PM	#1
stephenj5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 8	Rolex Submariner no longer ticks I received my Rolex as a gift a few years ago. For awhile it has little things that it would do that I didnt think a Rolex should do. Actually for awhile I thought it was fake, but it isnt. However, recently my watch has stopped ticking. I dont wear it often, so every time I put it on I have to let it wind itself up. But the last time I wore it, it would tick. Nothing seems to be loose, hands are fine, except the second hand no longer moves. Now im sure its in desperate need of a service. But im not sure if this is something that can be fixed alone, without a service or if im just going to have to do it. They are pricey and being a college student, something I cant really pay for atm lol. Just wondering what might be wrong with it and what needs to be done to fix it. And aside from the service, what can I do? Thank you for any advice and help.

19 December 2009, 04:28 PM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Have you wound it up............ There are a lot of things that could cause it to stop, but you should never let it "wind itself up". If it has stopped, you should give it at least 20 winds, and even a full wind of 40 would be better.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

20 December 2009, 03:25 AM	#5
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Well, if you have wound it properly and it still doesn't go, it needs to be looked at.. It could be a broken mainspring, but your description doesn't seem like that's it.. It could also be that a simple cleaning will do the trick as you haven't mentioned how old it is.. Subs are pretty tough.. It should take more than throwing your hand around a bit to break something that wasn't already suspect.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

20 December 2009, 04:26 PM	#7
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,588	I think it most likely would be back to full health with a simple service/lube. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

19 December 2009, 06:04 PM	#4
stephenj5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 8	Sorry, this information might get posted twice, tried the quick respond, but that has to be approved, didnt realize that lol. But I have wound it. I am still learning a lot about these watches, so as far as I can tell, I am doing it correctly, but I dont think it feels right, its always felt like this since ive gotten it. Ill wind it, and it feels weird, I wouldnt say crunchy, but its like a grinding almost, just not as smooth as I think it would be. I havent had opportunity of playing with a new rolex, or one that has been taken care of. So all I have to experience is this watch, and even I dont think it feels right. One other note to add, is the day before it stopped ticking, I did have it on and was playing with my dog, throwing my hands around a bit more then I probably should have with the watch on, so maybe I knocked something out of place. But thank you for the quick response. and sorry if this becomes a double post lol.

20 December 2009, 06:15 AM	#6
stephenj5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 8	Personally, I have had the watch for almost 4 years now, and before that, I couldnt tell you if it came to me new, or used. So the actual age of the watch is unknown to me. I received it in a green box from a jeweler, no documentation or anything. So I believe that it has had a previous owner. But with occasional usage, im sure it could use a cleaning. Or at least re lubricated.

21 December 2009, 02:27 AM	#9
ayres "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: honolulu Watch: whatever runs Posts: 551	yep, if you post a pic and/or repeat the letter at the beginning of the serial (found between the lugs - meaning you have to remove the bracelet), we could maybe advise you better. also, how was the accuracy of the watch in the four years you've owned it? meaning, did you ever notice that it might have been a few minutes off after a few days of wearing it? so the watch had no previous documentation when you purchased it? it could be possible that the watch was plagued with problems when you purchased it. also, you mentioned that it did little things you thought were strange. like what? did it make sounds other than the ticking sound? it is true that sometimes one is unaware of a problem until it culminates in a bigger problem.

21 December 2009, 05:20 AM	#10
stephenj5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 8	Ill gladly put some pictures up, edit: found a video to remove the band And yes, when I received the watch, had no documentation once so ever, but it was a gift, so the possibility that I just never received it when i got it is very good. And that they might still have it. But coming in a small green box with the jewelers logo on it, im not expecting much. As far as weird little things I thought were strange, everytime I went to change the date, engaging it was extremely tricky, I could pull the crown out (sorry, actually name is eluding me atm.) and change the time no problem, but getting it into the first posistion for the date is extremely tricky and requires me to go back and forth a few times to get it. I would think it would be easier and more noticable when it engaged, but ive never tried it on another watch. And for the cog itself, for the longest time I was never able to screw it back in, it was always out leaving the threads and seal exposed. I thought that the threads had been stripped so I left it. But eventually I was able to screw it in. It is a tight fit, and requires a bit of force to screw it all the way in, has the same crunchy feel as when I wind it up. But those were the two major things I noticed. As far as time goes. I think it was fairly accurate, but I did occasionally notice it being off at times. Its been a while since this issue arose, so trying to remember if it got a little faster or slower. But ill work on getting the pictures. and thanks all for the help :) much appreciated.

21 December 2009, 06:15 AM	#11
stephenj5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 8	Ok, So I took some pictures, sorry for the blueish light and the finger prints on some of the pictures lol. I did remove the band, to find no serial number... It has the little crown itched in the glass at the south position, has the little swiss in there, has Rolex's signature second hand sweep, but no serial. So all i can guess is that this isnt an original body. Or that it is a really good fake lol. Images are a bit big, and if you need better lighting, ill gladly retake the photos, just took these real quick.

21 December 2009, 06:18 AM	#12
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	That's cuz it's a 4000 foot FAKE!

21 December 2009, 06:19 AM	#13
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	And a bad one at that!

21 December 2009, 06:28 AM	#16
stephenj5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 8	Yeah its been so long, and even the research I did wasnt that good. Never payed that much attention to the 4000. I feel quite embarrassed lol, taking up your guys time for a fake, should have really looked into it a lot more long ago. At least I know now.

21 December 2009, 06:32 AM	#17
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	Well, if someone gave me a Sub as a gift I would surely remember who gave it to me So, my advice to you is toss that POS in the can and go look for a real one if you want one badly enough. And mail back the pieces to your forgotten gifter. Best of luck to you.

21 December 2009, 06:34 AM	#18
stephenj5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 8	Well I remember who have it to me, was a gift from my aunt, but im not sure if she knew it was real or not. But hopefully ill be a proud owner of a real one one of these days. But thank you all for sticking with me through this lol.

21 December 2009, 07:07 AM	#20
ayres "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: honolulu Watch: whatever runs Posts: 551	yep, a lot of red flags on that one. i didn't even notice the feet. rather, i noticed the dial's minutes markers (correct term?), the a-serial's 'swiss' with the contradictory no lug-holes case. but sure, there's so many more flags (case shape, bracelet, clasp, bezel, crown guards, etc). the slightest bit of research would have shown you that it was incorrect. the good news is that the movement will be inexpensive to fix.

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