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Dennis in MA · 23 December 2009, 10:20 AM

Another guy local to me. Less than a day left. I gotta believe he's got a shill bidder in on it. Looking for confirmation.

Thx.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

(He's got a website www.kronopassion.com I believe.)

blaine mattison · 23 December 2009, 10:56 AM

dennis, i don't know if it is shill, but it's cheap. IT IS NOT
A 1603

springer · 23 December 2009, 11:44 AM

The watch is only at $1000. It is worth over double that amount I would think.

PeteNYC13 · 23 December 2009, 01:25 PM

worries me that there is no clear picture of the date / cyclops - are they hiding the magnification (or lack of). My first post to the "WatchOut" section....I hope I don't call fake on a real one, I have always assumed that 90%+ on Ebay are fakes but this site confirms my fears.

sirjohnbrian · 23 December 2009, 01:41 PM

Right off the bat, I think it looks ok. The magnification and Rolex logo look similar to mine. Also, the seller seems to have a decent history of making high end watch sales. I couldn't say though whether this was a Frankenwatch.

HL65 · 23 December 2009, 01:44 PM

He is a good guy. I have bought and sold to him. I traded him for a Lange 1. Stand up guy!

HL65 · 23 December 2009, 01:50 PM

PS---His name is Sam. I traded him the WG Roger Dubuis Chrono on his site.

PeteNYC13 · 23 December 2009, 01:57 PM

Great, now I feel bad.... I'll just wait until there is one that has Rolex spelled wrong before calling it bad! :-)

springer · 23 December 2009, 02:55 PM

Nothing looks fake on this watch. Bid away, but it is ebay.

motomc1 · 23 December 2009, 03:47 PM

to put aftermarket parts or refurbish the dial on these models as original parts (dials etc) are VERY inexpensive. You can pick up original datejust dials on ebay for 50 bucks or so.

Dennis in MA · 23 December 2009, 10:12 PM

Last question - what do you think of the clasp?

springer · 24 December 2009, 01:49 AM

Dennis, nothing looks fake on the watch. But all opinions are based on a couple pics. Since you appear to be new at buying and intent on a deal, maybe you should buy one locally that you can examine and return if there are any issues.

I'd stay clear of ebay based on your uncertainty and the questions you are asking - it could save you some heartache in the future.

Bargain hunting on ebay can be a recipe for failure!!!!!!!!!!!!

23 December 2009, 10:20 AM	#1
Dennis in MA "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Dennis Location: Massachusetts Posts: 55	Opinions on this auction? Another guy local to me. Less than a day left. I gotta believe he's got a shill bidder in on it. Looking for confirmation. Thx. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT (He's got a website www.kronopassion.com I believe.)

23 December 2009, 11:44 AM	#3
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	The watch is only at $1000. It is worth over double that amount I would think. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

23 December 2009, 01:41 PM	#5
sirjohnbrian "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PA Watch: 'chu lookin' at??? Posts: 964	Right off the bat, I think it looks ok. The magnification and Rolex logo look similar to mine. Also, the seller seems to have a decent history of making high end watch sales. I couldn't say though whether this was a Frankenwatch. __________________ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." Mark Twain "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." Homer Simpson SS Midsize DJ 68274 "L" TT Jubilee DJ 116233 "Z" Sea Dweller DS 116660 "V" SS White Dial Daytona "V"

23 December 2009, 02:55 PM	#9
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	Nothing looks fake on this watch. Bid away, but it is ebay. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

23 December 2009, 03:47 PM	#10
motomc1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,814	IMHO it would be a waste of time for a seller to... to put aftermarket parts or refurbish the dial on these models as original parts (dials etc) are VERY inexpensive. You can pick up original datejust dials on ebay for 50 bucks or so.

23 December 2009, 10:56 AM	#2
blaine mattison "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: blaine Location: memphis Watch: my next find Posts: 1,060	dennis, i don't know if it is shill, but it's cheap. IT IS NOT A 1603

23 December 2009, 01:25 PM	#4
PeteNYC13 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Pete Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,607	worries me that there is no clear picture of the date / cyclops - are they hiding the magnification (or lack of). My first post to the "WatchOut" section....I hope I don't call fake on a real one, I have always assumed that 90%+ on Ebay are fakes but this site confirms my fears.

23 December 2009, 01:44 PM	#6
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,008	He is a good guy. I have bought and sold to him. I traded him for a Lange 1. Stand up guy!

23 December 2009, 01:50 PM	#7
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,008	PS---His name is Sam. I traded him the WG Roger Dubuis Chrono on his site.

23 December 2009, 01:57 PM	#8
PeteNYC13 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Pete Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,607	Great, now I feel bad.... I'll just wait until there is one that has Rolex spelled wrong before calling it bad! :-)

23 December 2009, 10:12 PM	#11
Dennis in MA "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Dennis Location: Massachusetts Posts: 55	Last question - what do you think of the clasp?

24 December 2009, 01:49 AM	#12
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	Dennis, nothing looks fake on the watch. But all opinions are based on a couple pics. Since you appear to be new at buying and intent on a deal, maybe you should buy one locally that you can examine and return if there are any issues. I'd stay clear of ebay based on your uncertainty and the questions you are asking - it could save you some heartache in the future. Bargain hunting on ebay can be a recipe for failure!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

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