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RolexPete · 20 January 2010, 10:17 AM

Well, as I sit here waiting for the results of the MA senatorial race, (Go SCOTT BROWN!), I had a little time to kill. So what did I want to do with my time?

I have a 1972 1002 Oyster Perpetual that I got at a pawn shop years ago for less than $800. It came with a near mint condition 19mm Oyster band and was running, so I thought it was a good deal.

Over the years, I have amassed some jewelers tools including an LG case opener, movement holder, jewelers screwdrivers, Rodico putty, etc. I like to tinker with things, and for awhile I was opening Omega cases and tinkering around. I even opend up a few of my older DJ cases just to take a peek.

Well, the 1002 never wound properly, setting the time was a chore, and it just seemed that the crown wasn't catching. So what did I do?

Yup! I opened her up. I used the LG opener and carefully removed the case back. Inside was a gleaming 1570 movement that looked great! What a work of art a Rolex movement. Next I loosened the screw that holds the crown in place, shown circled in red below:

Then at that point, I figured "What the hell" and decided to take the movement out of the case. So I turned the two screws that hold the movement in place clockwise (they need to be screwed down to loosen the movement). The two screws are circled below:

It really is a thing of beauty:

I took out the movement and decided I had gone far enough. I plopped it back in the case, lined it up properly, screwed the crown back in, and tightened the movement to the case. I then tightened the case back.

Well, I managed to get the crown to catch a little better, but it obviously needs to be serviced. The case back did not have a single jewelers marking and for all I know it has never been serviced. The dial is faded and in bad shape.

Although I don't recommend that anyone do this, and I certainly would not do it to an expensive Rolex (read over $1000), I saw no harm in it since I know I am having the watch serviced someday so I can give it to my kid(s) when he/she graduate from high school/college. That is 10 years away.

So, my little 1002 now sits back where it was, waiting for a real servicing from a real watchmaker, which I am not and never will be. I do admire those that make a living out of this. I am fascinated with it.

MilgaussMan · 20 January 2010, 10:22 AM

Brave man! But then again, I don't have a case back opener.

JBat · 20 January 2010, 10:23 AM

You're braver than me!

RolexPete · 20 January 2010, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBat

You're braver than me!

Like I said, I would never try it with any other of my Rolexes.

JBat · 20 January 2010, 10:26 AM

Well, at least you know how to do it now.

jms_w · 20 January 2010, 11:04 AM

You are definitely brave. That is one fine looking movement, looks like new.

diversified · 20 January 2010, 11:13 AM

You have a bigger set of hoochers than I'll ever have!

swissautopro · 20 January 2010, 11:23 AM

Bro, you are brave!!!

cht · 20 January 2010, 11:34 AM

Pull the dial and hands and check the keyless works to fix your crown.

Lol-x · 20 January 2010, 11:34 AM

Looks like there is some corrosion on those fixing screws.

Might be time for a service a.s.a.p.

Damage Inc. · 20 January 2010, 11:35 AM

Nicely done...You obviously have the interest, so why don't you sign up for the TZ level 1 course. I think you'll find it VERY interesting and fun!
(I completed both levels and it was both fun and useful)

RolexPete · 20 January 2010, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damage Inc.

Nicely done...You obviously have the interest, so why don't you sign up for the TZ level 1 course. I think you'll find it VERY interesting and fun!
(I completed both levels and it was both fun and useful)

I was going to in all honesty. I only need the movement itself since I have almost all the tools. You still using your movement?

ingoodtime · 20 January 2010, 11:58 AM

Well, at least you use an opener. Jocke puts em in a mechanical vice and squeezes the insides out! He has posted some pictures of his past exploits somewhere in the forum!

moviefreak · 20 January 2010, 01:05 PM

Nerves of steel.... Nice pictures..

Andad · 20 January 2010, 05:43 PM

If it had never been serviced - who butchered the screw heads?

Tombstone · 20 January 2010, 06:21 PM

This is great, I have wanted to do the same. I bought an mid 90's Sub from a pawn shop (yes it's real I had it inspected prior to the sale) with the intent of breaking it down and also using it when I do nasty jobs like working in the gardens, working on my cars, or even working out (a thrash watch) My friend, we too in the Western U.S. watched the race in Boston "change" and "hope" came today with the election of Scott Brown

RolexPete · 20 January 2010, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone

This is great, I have wanted to do the same. I bought an mid 90's Sub from a pawn shop (yes it's real I had it inspected prior to the sale) with the intent of breaking it down and also using it when I do nasty jobs like working in the gardens, working on my cars, or even working out (a thrash watch) My friend, we too in the Western U.S. watched the race in Boston "change" and "hope" came today with the election of Scott Brown

Yes, we are all happy here in MA.

RolexPete · 20 January 2010, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by directioneng

If it had never been serviced - who butchered the screw heads?

Well someone must have been in there before me because that is what they looked like when I opened it. Doesn't mean it was serviced though.

ROLEX MAN · 20 January 2010, 10:40 PM

You are a brave man to tackle such a job!!!

ParisDakarBmw · 20 January 2010, 11:02 PM

Some of the jewels in the watches are as big as a little glass sherd. I'm not looking forward to changing one of those. It's not that big of a deal to work on a watch, but start on an old pocket watch first. 16 jewels is a good starter.

rolexgiants · 20 January 2010, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolexPete

Yes, we are all happy here in MA.

i am a new york yankees season ticket holder.... I NEVER THOUGHT IN MY WILDEST DREAMS I WOULD HAVE EVER TYPED THESE WORDS.... I LOVE RED SOX NATION!!!!!!!!

Damage Inc. · 21 January 2010, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolexPete

I was going to in all honesty. I only need the movement itself since I have almost all the tools. You still using your movement?

I pretty well mangled the movement from the level 1 course...'experimenting' after I finished it. Kind of par for the course I think.

The movement from the level 2 course survived much better...quite well in fact. It's not a fancy movement, but it's a workhorse- when worn it keeps time very well (I spent quite a bit of time regulating it).

If you have the tools already then all you need to do is to get the movement and pay the 'tuition'...go for it!

rmcarlton · 21 January 2010, 01:05 AM

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

GeoGio Greece · 21 January 2010, 05:52 AM

Really nice to see.

Thanks. I trust its time to progress further. Take the course ! You have the nerve !

Casey VP-26 · 21 January 2010, 06:20 AM

Go Scott Brown Go RolexPete

ParisDakarBmw · 21 January 2010, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damage Inc.

I pretty well mangled the movement from the level 1 course...'experimenting' after I finished it. Kind of par for the course I think.

The movement from the level 2 course survived much better...quite well in fact. It's not a fancy movement, but it's a workhorse- when worn it keeps time very well (I spent quite a bit of time regulating it).

If you have the tools already then all you need to do is to get the movement and pay the 'tuition'...go for it!

My first attempt looks like I did the work with a railroad spike, and a ballpeen hammer. Which class/ school are you using?

20 January 2010, 10:17 AM	#1
RolexPete "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Peter Location: Massachusetts Watch: 214270 Mk2 Posts: 1,963	Bored today. DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME! Well, as I sit here waiting for the results of the MA senatorial race, (Go SCOTT BROWN!), I had a little time to kill. So what did I want to do with my time? I have a 1972 1002 Oyster Perpetual that I got at a pawn shop years ago for less than $800. It came with a near mint condition 19mm Oyster band and was running, so I thought it was a good deal. Over the years, I have amassed some jewelers tools including an LG case opener, movement holder, jewelers screwdrivers, Rodico putty, etc. I like to tinker with things, and for awhile I was opening Omega cases and tinkering around. I even opend up a few of my older DJ cases just to take a peek. Well, the 1002 never wound properly, setting the time was a chore, and it just seemed that the crown wasn't catching. So what did I do? Yup! I opened her up. I used the LG opener and carefully removed the case back. Inside was a gleaming 1570 movement that looked great! What a work of art a Rolex movement. Next I loosened the screw that holds the crown in place, shown circled in red below: Then at that point, I figured "What the hell" and decided to take the movement out of the case. So I turned the two screws that hold the movement in place clockwise (they need to be screwed down to loosen the movement). The two screws are circled below: It really is a thing of beauty: I took out the movement and decided I had gone far enough. I plopped it back in the case, lined it up properly, screwed the crown back in, and tightened the movement to the case. I then tightened the case back. Well, I managed to get the crown to catch a little better, but it obviously needs to be serviced. The case back did not have a single jewelers marking and for all I know it has never been serviced. The dial is faded and in bad shape. Although I don't recommend that anyone do this, and I certainly would not do it to an expensive Rolex (read over $1000), I saw no harm in it since I know I am having the watch serviced someday so I can give it to my kid(s) when he/she graduate from high school/college. That is 10 years away. So, my little 1002 now sits back where it was, waiting for a real servicing from a real watchmaker, which I am not and never will be. I do admire those that make a living out of this. I am fascinated with it. __________________ 2016 Explorer 214270 Mk2 - 1996 Submariner 14060* - 1972 Datejust 1601 1972 Oyster Perpetual 1002 - 1978 Oysterquartz 17000 Omega Seamaster 2265.80 - Omega Seamaster 300 166.0324 *RIP PAL 1942-2015

20 January 2010, 10:22 AM	#2
MilgaussMan "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Indiana Watch: 14060M Posts: 138	Brave man! But then again, I don't have a case back opener. __________________ 116400V 14060M "3 O'Clock Lume Club" - Charter Member Join the group:http://www.rolexforums.com/group.php?groupid=20

20 January 2010, 11:04 AM	#6
jms_w "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East Coast Watch: 116710LN Posts: 557	You are definitely brave. That is one fine looking movement, looks like new. __________________ 116520\|116610LV\|116710LN\|16613\|16233 244 232.30.42\|3222.80 A2332212 CFX-200\|Riseman\|GW-M5610

20 January 2010, 11:23 AM	#8
swissautopro "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: South Carolina Watch: 3.3M 1655 Mk I Posts: 2,384	Bro, you are *brave!!! __________________ "A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a bandit, and scarcity like an armed man."* Proverbs 24 "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt." Unknown "Better to be a nobody and yet have a servant than pretend to be somebody and have no food." Proverbs 12

20 January 2010, 11:34 AM	#10
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,588	Looks like there is some corrosion on those fixing screws. Might be time for a service a.s.a.p. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

20 January 2010, 10:23 AM	#3
JBat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: Washington Watch: 16710, 16610, DJ Posts: 7,329	You're braver than me!

20 January 2010, 10:26 AM	#5
JBat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: Washington Watch: 16710, 16610, DJ Posts: 7,329	Well, at least you know how to do it now.

20 January 2010, 11:13 AM	#7
diversified "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Jim Location: State College PA Posts: 1,694	You have a bigger set of hoochers than I'll ever have!

20 January 2010, 11:34 AM	#9
cht 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Chris Location: San antonio, TX Watch: 116610LV Posts: 2,143	Pull the dial and hands and check the keyless works to fix your crown.

20 January 2010, 11:35 AM	#11
Damage Inc. "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Vic Location: Colorado, USA Watch: Mechanical!! Posts: 807	Nicely done...You obviously have the interest, so why don't you sign up for the TZ level 1 course. I think you'll find it VERY interesting and fun! (I completed both levels and it was both fun and useful) __________________ "Science tastes like vomit." Kari "Mythbusters hottie" Byron Z-serial GMT IIc 2.92M serial 1675 Pepsi V-serial 16610LV

20 January 2010, 11:58 AM	#13
ingoodtime "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,834	Well, at least you use an opener. Jocke puts em in a mechanical vice and squeezes the insides out! He has posted some pictures of his past exploits somewhere in the forum! __________________ Lee

20 January 2010, 01:05 PM	#14
moviefreak "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in my house... Posts: 5,524	Nerves of steel.... Nice pictures.. __________________ Cheers, Eduardo Be a WIS not a WUSS... and remove all the stickers..

20 January 2010, 05:43 PM	#15
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,533	If it had never been serviced - who butchered the screw heads? __________________ E

20 January 2010, 06:21 PM	#16
Tombstone "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Richard Location: LV, NV Watch: LV Sub and others Posts: 2,689	This is great, I have wanted to do the same. I bought an mid 90's Sub from a pawn shop (yes it's real I had it inspected prior to the sale) with the intent of breaking it down and also using it when I do nasty jobs like working in the gardens, working on my cars, or even working out (a thrash watch) My friend, we too in the Western U.S. watched the race in Boston "change" and "hope" came today with the election of Scott Brown __________________ Always working...by choice

20 January 2010, 10:40 PM	#19
ROLEX MAN 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: Home and Away Watch: you? "YES PLEASE"! Posts: 3,719	You are a brave man to tackle such a job!!! __________________ *it's not just about telling the time...* *happy rolexing...* I'm just a man with a passion

20 January 2010, 11:02 PM	#20
ParisDakarBmw Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: New Haven, CT Watch: 116610 Sub-C Posts: 6,552	Some of the jewels in the watches are as big as a little glass sherd. I'm not looking forward to changing one of those. It's not that big of a deal to work on a watch, but start on an old pocket watch first. 16 jewels is a good starter.

21 January 2010, 01:05 AM	#23
rmcarlton "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Monty Location: Georgia Watch: Sub LV Posts: 787	Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

21 January 2010, 05:52 AM	#24
GeoGio Greece "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: George Location: Athens, Greece Watch: es --> A lot ! Posts: 2,327	Really nice to see. Thanks. I trust its time to progress further. Take the course ! You have the nerve ! __________________ Rolex owner since 1971. 5513 and 16700 the loved ones. DJ WG Jubilee 16170 for wife - U series Oyster Perpetual WG 177234 for daughter V-series

21 January 2010, 06:20 AM	#25
Casey VP-26 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: America Posts: 2,721	Go Scott Brown Go RolexPete

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