Help please? is this the real deal?

[robertneville]

i pray so, i bought it before i found this site. paper serial numbers match the watch. thanks for all of your experts help!!! i am trying to learn!

[BASSETHOUNDS]

If you have bought it already , I would suggest to take it to Rolex Service Center or an AD to have it inspected . A bit pointless now to send us pictures of it .

[toph]

Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

If you have bought it already , I would suggest to take it to Rolex Service Center or an AD to have it inspected . A bit pointless now to send us pictures of it .

if its pointless why you answering? The OP has explained already


anyway- to me it looks perfectly fine. The ladies rolex datejust is the only rolex with writing on the caseback except the current milgauss. But if you are uncertain still just pop along to your nearest dealer and they will tell you in less than a mnute

[Safetrends]

Originally Posted by toph

if its pointless why you answering? The OP has explained already


anyway- to me it looks perfectly fine. The ladies rolex datejust is the only rolex with writing on the caseback except the current milgauss. But if you are uncertain still just pop along to your nearest dealer and they will tell you in less than a mnute

Incorrect, several Rolex watches have writing on the caseback. look at the Rolex Report and it will give you all the watches that Rolex makes with the caseback markings. I am on the road and if you want I would be happy to give you a list when I get home tonight please PM me at [email protected]
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If you bought the watch, you need to take to an AD and have them check it out, why ask us when it is your possession.

[robertneville]

Originally Posted by toph

if its pointless why you answering? The OP has explained already


anyway- to me it looks perfectly fine. The ladies rolex datejust is the only rolex with writing on the caseback except the current milgauss. But if you are uncertain still just pop along to your nearest dealer and they will tell you in less than a mnute

thanks for the quick response! i will take it to an AD, just thought id get the experts involved!

[robertneville]

If you bought the watch, you need to take to an AD and have them check it out, why ask us when it is your possession.

[/QUOTE]

for peace of mind. i really dont care about the money!

[toph]

Originally Posted by Safetrends

Incorrect, several Rolex watches have writing on the caseback. look at the Rolex Report and it will give you all the watches that Rolex makes with the caseback markings. I am on the road and if you want I would be happy to give you a list when I get home tonight please PM me at [email protected]
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True. i meant any model that is in mass production. ( ones we are likely to come acoss frequently in the last 20 year sor so) I.E Datejust, Date, Airking, Day-Date, Sub, GMT, Sea dweller, Yachtmaster, explorer 1 & II, Daytona. If someone is buying a rarer piece i am sure they know what they are doing

[Safetrends]

Originally Posted by toph

True. i meant any model that is in mass production. ( ones we are likely to come acoss frequently in the last 20 year sor so) I.E Datejust, Date, Airking, Day-Date, Sub, GMT, Sea dweller, Yachtmaster, explorer 1 & II, Daytona. If someone is buying a rarer piece i am sure they know what they are doing

When talking about Rolex watches you need to be spot on if not it will cause crossed signals.

[ESKO]

Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

If you have bought it already , I would suggest to take it to Rolex Service Center or an AD to have it inspected . A bit pointless now to send us pictures of it .

Why would you say something like that?

[robertneville]

Originally Posted by ESKO

Why would you say something like that?

thanks! that statement did hurt my feelings a little bit. especially since this forum has been so helpful to me and many others.

[toph]

Originally Posted by Safetrends

When talking about Rolex watches you need to be spot on if not it will cause crossed signals.

i appreciate that and thank you but you know what i was getting at
P.S, i do have my own copy of the rolex report too, just don't know how to read yet

[Safetrends]

Originally Posted by toph

i appreciate that and thank you but you know what i was getting at
P.S, i do have my own copy of the rolex report too, just don't know how to read yet

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Safetrends]

Originally Posted by ESKO

Why would you say something like that?

Well he did buy it and we cannot say to much after that, now he has to go to AD and get it authenticated or it will be taken away for being a fake. It is simple as that. We are not being rude here we are being true to his question.

[ParisDakarBmw]

From what I see it looks O.K. The movement is very important, as well as the numbers on the case. Let us know when it arrives. We'll help you more from that point with good pics, and such. Good Luck!

[toph]

Originally Posted by Safetrends

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

no worries at all!!! this is what forums are for.

Originally Posted by Safetrends

Well he did buy it and we cannot say to much after that, now he has to go to AD and get it authenticated or it will be taken away for being a fake. It is simple as that. We are not being rude here we are being true to his question.

Well he did state that he is trying to learn, and we all started somwhere. So it is not really of any benefit to tell him its a pointless question. If nobody answered our questions ( even in books) then we would never learn.

[robertneville]

Originally Posted by ParisDakarBmw

From what I see it looks O.K. The movement is very important, as well as the numbers on the case. Let us know when it arrives. We'll help you more from that point with good pics, and such. Good Luck!

thanks Paul and i admire your knowledge on such things. i was a luker here for a long time before i joined. i love some of the Breitlings you have had for sale on here...(i know you had at least one i loved).

[robertneville]

Originally Posted by toph

no worries at all!!! this is what forums are for.



Well he did state that he is trying to learn, and we all started somwhere. So it is not really of any benefit to tell him its a pointless question. If nobody answered our questions ( even in books) then we would never learn.

Thanks Toph! and ironically i am a professor, but my expertise is computers!

[ESKO]

Originally Posted by Safetrends

Well he did buy it and we cannot say to much after that, now he has to go to AD and get it authenticated or it will be taken away for being a fake. It is simple as that. We are not being rude here we are being true to his question.

I'll wait for his answer. Why is it you can't say much after the fact? Many post pictures. Many ask for help. doesn't this basically go back to, "If you don't have anything constructive to say, why say anything at all?"
Look Safe, I know I have rubbed a few people the wrong way myself. I understand what he is saying, I think it was a little harsh. A lot of his posts seem this way.

What happened to the big TRF family concept?

What I do agree with, is the fact he told him to go get it checked out at an AD.

In any event I tried to keep my response short and sweet to not ruffle any feathers, the guy is kinda new, lets not welcome him like this.

[robertneville]

Originally Posted by ESKO

I'll wait for his answer. Why is it you can't say much after the fact? Many post pictures. Many ask for help. doesn't this basically go back to, "If you don't have anything constructive to say, why say anything at all?"
Look Safe, I know I have rubbed a few people the wrong way myself. I understand what he is saying, I think it was a little harsh. A lot of his posts seem this way.

What happened to the big TRF family concept?

What I do agree with, is the fact he told him to go get it checked out at an AD.

In any event I tried to keep my response short and sweet to not ruffle any feathers, the guy is kinda new, lets not welcome him like this.

someone said it earlier, this is what forums are for. i have read a lot of posts by safe, and he knows what he is talking about. sometimes being a nooby means getting flamed (or slightly toasted), i am ok with that!

[ESKO]

Originally Posted by robertneville

someone said it earlier, this is what forums are for. i have read a lot of posts by safe, and he knows what he is talking about. sometimes being a nooby means getting flamed (or slightly toasted), i am ok with that!

Roger! The next guy might not though.
Glad you got the information you needed, good luck and wear the watch in good health.

[robertneville]

Originally Posted by ESKO

Roger! The next guy might not though.
Glad you got the information you needed, good luck and wear the watch in good health.

its for my wife. she would rather piss away money on silly little hard sparkly rocks than a real piece of jewelry! something with REAL value! Thanks for defending me man!

[Safetrends]

Do you know how many people come on TRF and ask the same question, is this real, then that is it we do not hear from them again. When you buy a watch and then ask is it real it is not work talking about, it has been bought and so the guy needs to take it to a AD and have them authenticate the watch. Not being rude just stating facts. Most of you guys posting are new and do not see the same posts day after day with I am new and is this real? and we get nothing else. People post to pick our brains and then leave.

Again I am not rude, I am stating a fact, you cannot determine it is real without doing an examination, that means checking the movement taking the watch apart and checking it. The pictures are vague, a real inspection is detail photographs of the watch taken apart is better.

Again I am not rude.

[toph]

Originally Posted by Safetrends

Do you know how many people come on TRF and ask the same question, is this real, then that is it we do not hear from them again. When you buy a watch and then ask is it real it is not work talking about, it has been bought and so the guy needs to take it to a AD and have them authenticate the watch. Not being rude just stating facts. Most of you guys posting are new and do not see the same posts day after day with I am new and is this real? and we get nothing else. People post to pick our brains and then leave.

Again I am not rude, I am stating a fact, you cannot determine it is real without doing an examination, that means checking the movement taking the watch apart and checking it. The pictures are vague, a real inspection is detail photographs of the watch taken apart is better.

Again I am not rude.

I really do understand what you are saying, and agree with the latter paragraph of your statement. On the other hand, if these posts annoy you so much you are always free to ignore them AND you are not forced to give any help/comment.

[robertneville]

Originally Posted by Safetrends

Do you know how many people come on TRF and ask the same question, is this real, then that is it we do not hear from them again. When you buy a watch and then ask is it real it is not work talking about, it has been bought and so the guy needs to take it to a AD and have them authenticate the watch. Not being rude just stating facts. Most of you guys posting are new and do not see the same posts day after day with I am new and is this real? and we get nothing else. People post to pick our brains and then leave.

Again I am not rude, I am stating a fact, you cannot determine it is real without doing an examination, that means checking the movement taking the watch apart and checking it. The pictures are vague, a real inspection is detail photographs of the watch taken apart is better.

Again I am not rude.

i know you are not rude, you are are stating fact. i understand your one and done logic. however, i do enjoy my lux watches, and have even become a pledge member of this forum, and plan to be a solid contributor into the future. of course i will take it to an AD, i just wanted a quick honest opinion, which i got. thanks again.

[Prince]

Just a reminder to keep everything civil here (as I'm sure everyone will).

[BASSETHOUNDS]

Originally Posted by Safetrends

Do you know how many people come on TRF and ask the same question, is this real, then that is it we do not hear from them again. When you buy a watch and then ask is it real it is not work talking about, it has been bought and so the guy needs to take it to a AD and have them authenticate the watch. Not being rude just stating facts. Most of you guys posting are new and do not see the same posts day after day with I am new and is this real? and we get nothing else. People post to pick our brains and then leave.

Again I am not rude, I am stating a fact, you cannot determine it is real without doing an examination, that means checking the movement taking the watch apart and checking it. The pictures are vague, a real inspection is detail photographs of the watch taken apart is better.

Again I am not rude.

Exactly , and this is the reason I replied the way I did in the beginning .
What I meant was , I understand when people post such a question because they are considering buying a particular watch and sometimes only have a couple of poor quality pictures like these go on . In that case some of our experts here my spot some irregularities on the watch or contradictions with the description given by the seller . We can point that out to the potential buyer who then can take that info and check with the seller again . The buyer will then take appropriate action . In some cases the fraud is that obvious that we can say with certainty that a watch is fake or not . This case is NOT obvious , but the OP has every possibility to confirm authenticity with 100% certainty as he holds the item , something we cannot do based on what we have here .
I got a reply from a member saying ; why bother answering if it is pointless , Ok , point taken . He should now also reoly the same to the OP as I do not understand why the OP asked in the first place as he states that he doesn't care , nor for the money . Strange , but of course we have seen stranger things here .
If may answer was perceived as rude , sorry it was not meant that way . I only wanted to state the obvious .

[robertneville]

Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

Exactly , and this is the reason I replied the way I did in the beginning .
What I meant was , I understand when people post such a question because they are considering buying a particular watch and sometimes only have a couple of poor quality pictures like these go on . In that case some of our experts here my spot some irregularities on the watch or contradictions with the description given by the seller . We can point that out to the potential buyer who then can take that info and check with the seller again . The buyer will then take appropriate action . In some cases the fraud is that obvious that we can say with certainty that a watch is fake or not . This case is NOT obvious , but the OP has every possibility to confirm authenticity with 100% certainty as he holds the item , something we cannot do based on what we have here .
I got a reply from a member saying ; why bother answering if it is pointless , Ok , point taken . He should now also reoly the same to the OP as I do not understand why the OP asked in the first place as he states that he doesn't care , nor for the money . Strange , but of course we have seen stranger things here .
If may answer was perceived as rude , sorry it was not meant that way . I only wanted to state the obvious .

Tristan, i understand your point well. everyone cares about the money, however my point was that i spend more per year on gas for our dirt bikes (or for my orioles season tickets, that is money down the drain) that i did on that watch (so losing that amount of money will not hurt me or my family). i just wanted to know what the TRF experts thought. if its a fake, i can buy a real one tomorrow, i did not want my wife wearing trash. once again, thanks for everyones input, and im sorry if i offended anyone with my ignorance!

[BASSETHOUNDS]

Originally Posted by robertneville

Tristan, i understand your point well. everyone cares about the money, however my point was that i spend more per year on gas for our dirt bikes (or for my orioles season tickets, that is money down the drain) that i did on that watch (so losing that amount of money will not hurt me or my family). i just wanted to know what the TRF experts thought. if its a fake, i can buy a real one tomorrow, i did not want my wife wearing trash. once again, thanks for everyones input, and im sorry if i offended anyone with my ignorance!

Sorry , I cannot agree with that . Spending money on gas and tickets is not money down the drain , it is your recreation . As you say as long you can afford is one thing but I wouldn't consider it wasting money ,nor buying expensive watches . I happen to know a couple of what I consider extremely wealthy people that spend less on watches then I , who could be considered penniless compared to them . However spending any money on fake watches I would consider a waste of money . One sentence in your last post bothers me : ".. I can buy a real one tomorrow , I did not want my wife wearing trash . " Is it right to assume that you know it is a fake , or did I read the wrong thing in this line ?

[robertneville]

Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

Sorry , I cannot agree with that . Spending money on gas and tickets is not money down the drain , it is your recreation . As you say as long you can afford is one thing but I wouldn't consider it wasting money ,nor buying expensive watches . I happen to know a couple of what I consider extremely wealthy people that spend less on watches then I , who could be considered penniless compared to them . However spending any money on fake watches I would consider a waste of money . One sentence in your last post bothers me : ".. I can buy a real one tomorrow , I did not want my wife wearing trash . " Is it right to assume that you know it is a fake , or did I read the wrong thing in this line ?

geez, now that i read that statement, it does sound bad. what i meant was that IF this had been a fake, i would not even give it to her... it is the first pre-owned watch i have ever purchased. <b>However spending any money on fake watches I would consider a waste of money .</b> could not agree more with that one!!!!!!! my very very very little experience in this realm was that when inspecting the watch i thought it WAS real. just wanted some experts 2 cents. thanks.

[BASSETHOUNDS]

Pictures are not good enough , I however doubt the box is original to the watch doesn't make the watch fake . Not over happy how the crown on that clasp looks , then again impossible to tell by that quality of picture . Even then it just could be aftermarket and therefor not mean that the actual watch is a fake . You can try and post some goos close ups of the dial , clasp codes , bracelet number , . Then take off the bracelet and take pictures of what is engraved between the lugs . You can start to compare the documents with that data for yourself .