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EddyMerckx · 23 February 2010, 01:14 AM

Hi Guys:

New to the forum ... great community here ... Fantasic wealth of knowledge etc.

Anyway, looks like my next watch will be a Deepsea or a 41MM DJII (blue stick, white stick, or TT white) ...

I've been told the Deepsea (or something like a GMTIIc) would hold it's value better than a DJII and be easier to move down the road if I ever wanted to sell.

Is assumption valid? If so, would there be a big difference?

Thanks for your input.

cedras · 23 February 2010, 01:20 AM

both are great watches, why don't you chose a watch you like, rather than a watch you think you will get more resale value from....

Deyn Man · 23 February 2010, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cedras

both are great watches, why don't you chose a watch you like, rather than a watch you think you will get more resale value from....

x2

stay away from TT if you plan to flip later on... i think you take the brunt of the initial pay-out (if bought brand new of course). if you're going for a TT, might be wise to get a mint condition 2nd hand and let the 1st owner take the brunt...

hope i got this right. please do correct me if otherwise!

EddyMerckx · 23 February 2010, 01:38 AM

Hahaha, yeah, you're right, I've never been disappointed when I've bought the watch that "sings to me" ... but they both sing equally ... just very different ... It's like Scarlett Johansson and Penelope Cruz ... How do you choose?

I also know I get bored with things VERY quickly so I always like to know what I'm getting into when I'm shelling out big $.

Deyn Man · 23 February 2010, 01:45 AM

this is a tough one... i personally like them both!!!

what are your current watches? maybe that should be the deciding factor considering you like both the DJII and the Deap sea... but just a "maybe"!

i have an Air King... and now saving up for a sports model watch... if you have a DJ already, maybe get a sports model like the deep sea for your next watch...

but again... "maybe"... some have even stuck to just one model but in different variations (ie. Sub -- SS, LV, no date, TT bluesy, TT Black, etc)...

sorry if i was not much help...

but this is indeed a tough choice...

smallcandle · 23 February 2010, 01:48 AM

I agree with buying a watch that you really love and not one that you hope will hold it's resale value. That being said, I took the opportunity to look at a black dial DJII this weekend at my AD. And while I really like the looks of the watch, I wouldn't for a second consider parting with my DSSD for it. The Deepsea is a wonderful watch and I've enjoyed wearing it everyday for almost a year now.

Rscmaine · 23 February 2010, 01:50 AM

Completely unscientific observation - I seldom see a DSSD posted for resale over and over and over - they get snapped up fast on the boards.

DJ's of any ilk can languish...

There is a Walter Middy appeal to the big beefy diver that makes it go fast.

(Not that there is anything wrong with that...

)

BASSETHOUNDS · 23 February 2010, 02:08 AM

Welcome , Just compare them :
P.S. You wouldn't be of Belgian origins too ? With a username like that .

BASSETHOUNDS · 23 February 2010, 02:11 AM

But then comes the real difference :

tkc324 · 23 February 2010, 02:14 AM

If both sings to you the same...
I would go with the DS...
SS Sports models has out performed DJ on the resell market for as long as I can remember. DJII might be different... but i highly doubt it.

EddyMerckx · 23 February 2010, 02:36 AM

Nah, just a bad bike racer ...

Wow, that doesn't help at ALL. makes it worse! ;-)

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

Welcome , Just compare them :
P.S. You wouldn't be of Belgian origins too ? With a username like that .

SDDS · 23 February 2010, 02:37 AM

go for the deepsea

EddyMerckx · 23 February 2010, 02:37 AM

And thanks for the AWESOME pics! Very cool.

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Originally Posted by EddyMerckx

Nah, just a bad bike racer ...

Wow, that doesn't help at ALL. makes it worse! ;-)

Ricochet · 23 February 2010, 02:42 AM

Get the one that you like best. I flipped my DSSD for a TT DJII. I also beg to disagree to the suggestion to avoid the TT on issues of poor resale value. To me, the TT stands out better in the DJ/DDate models than on the sports line. Yet again, its just me.

BASSETHOUNDS · 23 February 2010, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricochet

Get the one that you like best. I flipped my DSSD for a TT DJII. I also beg to disagree to the suggestion to avoid the TT for issues of poor resale value. To me, the TT stands out better in the DJ/DDate models than on the sports line. Yet again, its just me.

I do not know how you guys can flip that easily . I always want another one , but can never let go of one .

DSJ · 23 February 2010, 02:59 AM

"Professional" models (Sub, GMT, Daytona, etc.) almost always retain their value over the Datejust line.

My advice remains: buy the watch you like most, and keep it!

RRGHOST1 · 23 February 2010, 04:58 AM

The DJII is fairly new at the moment so the novelty hasn't worn off yet and i think is holding up quite well against other Rolex. It is true that TT models don't keep the value as well as the SS models so they are a buy used watch. I like the TT models myself but if it was a choice of DJII or DSSD its the Deepsea.

Rscmaine · 23 February 2010, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricochet

Get the one that you like best. I flipped my DSSD for a TT DJII. I also beg to disagree to the suggestion to avoid the TT on issues of poor resale value. To me, the TT stands out better in the DJ/DDate models than on the sports line. Yet again, its just me.

Damn, but that is one sharp looking watch!

thatguitarplace · 23 February 2010, 09:58 AM

deep sea total wrist presence

HL65 · 23 February 2010, 10:03 AM

I agree--you have to get what you like--but with that said there is no denying that SS Sports models hold their value better--all depends on your entry point too though! Best and welcome to TRF.

Gerardus · 23 February 2010, 10:37 AM

"Professional" models holds their value better imho.

sirjohnbrian · 23 February 2010, 11:04 AM

If both watches "sing" to you, then decide what environment your watch will be in. If it is mostly an office, I'd say DJII. If for the outdoors, DSSD.

Ricochet · 23 February 2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rscmaine

Damn, but that is one sharp looking watch!

wow, nice compliment

Strut99GT · 23 February 2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rolexplorer2

It is true that TT models don't keep the value as well as the SS models so they are a buy used watch.

However, watches containing gold also sell for much larger discounts than all-stainless ones. So, the total depreciation curve is somewhat similar.

Buy what you like! What type of work do you do? Will this be a daily watch? If you are a daily office person, I'd choose the DJ. If not, I'd choose the DSSD.

CPTL · 23 February 2010, 11:22 PM

Holding "value" at resale is really all about what you're paying for it now. DJs historically lose more value than Subs/SDs/GMTs, but that also means you can buy them a lot cheaper in the first instance.

Too early to really tell whether the DeepSea will hold value. When the first pieces started showing up in the US in Oct 08, folks were paying $11K for them; now you can get one for $7K.

TattooedGQ · 24 February 2010, 12:07 AM

I say go Deepsea.....I cant jump on the HUGE fluted bezel bandwagon on the DJII

EddyMerckx · 24 February 2010, 01:12 AM

Hey, Guys:

Thanks for all the great info and advice.

Doing the Deepsea but I doubt I'll be able to stay away from that DJ TT for too long.

I hadn't seen it with gold romans on the dark face. Wow.

Thanks for the pic, Ricochet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rscmaine

Damn, but that is one sharp looking watch!

Ricochet · 24 February 2010, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyMerckx

Hey, Guys:

Thanks for all the great info and advice.

Doing the Deepsea but I doubt I'll be able to stay away from that DJ TT for too long.

I hadn't seen it with gold romans on the dark face. Wow.

Thanks for the pic, Ricochet.

Eddy, You're welcome. Here is another picture I took

moby33 · 26 February 2010, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricochet

I also beg to disagree to the suggestion to avoid the TT on issues of poor resale value.

You can beg all you want, but there's no debate that TT will ALWAYS have the bigger depreciation drop when compared to SS models. Show me identical used Subs or Daytona's in both SS and TT and it's always night & day on which ones value dropped more - the TT every time. Sad, but true.

DS_Obsessed · 26 February 2010, 03:41 PM

Get both. DS first. DJ2 later. Both are cool and both are Rolexes. Sport watch is the most versitile and DJ is more dressy. Either way you can't go wrong, but both are a start of a solid "newer" rolex collection.

23 February 2010, 01:14 AM	#1
EddyMerckx "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lake Mary Posts: 9	Deapsea vs. DJII - down the road question Hi Guys: New to the forum ... great community here ... Fantasic wealth of knowledge etc. Anyway, looks like my next watch will be a Deepsea or a 41MM DJII (blue stick, white stick, or TT white) ... I've been told the Deepsea (or something like a GMTIIc) would hold it's value better than a DJII and be easier to move down the road if I ever wanted to sell. Is assumption valid? If so, would there be a big difference? Thanks for your input.

23 February 2010, 01:50 AM	#7
Rscmaine "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Nat Parkinson Location: Maine, USA Watch: me pull a rabbit.. Posts: 1,196	Completely unscientific observation - I seldom see a DSSD posted for resale over and over and over - they get snapped up fast on the boards. DJ's of any ilk can languish... There is a Walter Middy appeal to the big beefy diver that makes it go fast. (Not that there is anything wrong with that...) __________________ When the alien spaceships actually landed, to everyone's surprise, it turned out that the world's governments had not been hiding anything. They were just as clueless as the rest of us!

23 February 2010, 02:08 AM	#8
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Welcome , Just compare them : P.S. You wouldn't be of Belgian origins too ? With a username like that . Attached Images

23 February 2010, 02:11 AM	#9
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	But then comes the real difference : Attached Images

23 February 2010, 02:37 AM	#12
SDDS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Yazan Location: Canada Posts: 4,782	go for the deepsea __________________ Patek Philippe 5167 Patek Philippe 5905P black dial Rolex Deepsea 116660 M series Rolex Oysterquartz 17000 N series Rolex OP 41MM 124300 Green Dial

23 February 2010, 01:20 AM	#2
cedras "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: paris Watch: 16600 Posts: 27	both are great watches, why don't you chose a watch you like, rather than a watch you think you will get more resale value from....

23 February 2010, 01:38 AM	#4
EddyMerckx "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lake Mary Posts: 9	Hahaha, yeah, you're right, I've never been disappointed when I've bought the watch that "sings to me" ... but they both sing equally ... just very different ... It's like Scarlett Johansson and Penelope Cruz ... How do you choose? I also know I get bored with things VERY quickly so I always like to know what I'm getting into when I'm shelling out big $.

23 February 2010, 01:45 AM	#5
Deyn Man "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Dean Location: Philippines Posts: 1,037	this is a tough one... i personally like them both!!! what are your current watches? maybe that should be the deciding factor considering you like both the DJII and the Deap sea... but just a "maybe"! i have an Air King... and now saving up for a sports model watch... if you have a DJ already, maybe get a sports model like the deep sea for your next watch... but again... "maybe"... some have even stuck to just one model but in different variations (ie. Sub -- SS, LV, no date, TT bluesy, TT Black, etc)... sorry if i was not much help... but this is indeed a tough choice...

23 February 2010, 01:48 AM	#6
smallcandle "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Kansas Watch: 16610, Omega PO Posts: 1,898	I agree with buying a watch that you really love and not one that you hope will hold it's resale value. That being said, I took the opportunity to look at a black dial DJII this weekend at my AD. And while I really like the looks of the watch, I wouldn't for a second consider parting with my DSSD for it. The Deepsea is a wonderful watch and I've enjoyed wearing it everyday for almost a year now.

23 February 2010, 02:14 AM	#10
tkc324 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Tom Location: Chi town Watch: Daytona AP DD Sub Posts: 3,717	If both sings to you the same... I would go with the DS... SS Sports models has out performed DJ on the resell market for as long as I can remember. DJII might be different... but i highly doubt it.

23 February 2010, 02:42 AM	#14
Ricochet "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 165	Get the one that you like best. I flipped my DSSD for a TT DJII. I also beg to disagree to the suggestion to avoid the TT on issues of poor resale value. To me, the TT stands out better in the DJ/DDate models than on the sports line. Yet again, its just me. __________________ Do The Harder Right And Not The Easier Wrong

23 February 2010, 02:59 AM	#16
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	"Professional" models (Sub, GMT, Daytona, etc.) almost always retain their value over the Datejust line. My advice remains: buy the watch you like most, and keep it! __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

23 February 2010, 04:58 AM	#17
RRGHOST1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: luke standing Location: england Watch: Rolex TT SubC Blue Posts: 3,997	The DJII is fairly new at the moment so the novelty hasn't worn off yet and i think is holding up quite well against other Rolex. It is true that TT models don't keep the value as well as the SS models so they are a buy used watch. I like the TT models myself but if it was a choice of DJII or DSSD its the Deepsea.

23 February 2010, 09:58 AM	#19
thatguitarplace Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: london Posts: 85	deep sea total wrist presence

23 February 2010, 10:03 AM	#20
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,008	I agree--you have to get what you like--but with that said there is no denying that SS Sports models hold their value better--all depends on your entry point too though! Best and welcome to TRF. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

23 February 2010, 10:37 AM	#21
Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: often in the air Watch: ♕ Posts: 12,142	"Professional" models holds their value better imho. __________________ ♕126610 ♕126333 ♕116300

23 February 2010, 11:04 AM	#22
sirjohnbrian "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PA Watch: 'chu lookin' at??? Posts: 964	If both watches "sing" to you, then decide what environment your watch will be in. If it is mostly an office, I'd say DJII. If for the outdoors, DSSD. __________________ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." Mark Twain "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." Homer Simpson SS Midsize DJ 68274 "L" TT Jubilee DJ 116233 "Z" Sea Dweller DS 116660 "V" SS White Dial Daytona "V"

23 February 2010, 11:22 PM	#25
CPTL "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Texas on my mind Watch: Sub Date; SS/WG DJ Posts: 2,445	Holding "value" at resale is really all about what you're paying for it now. DJs historically lose more value than Subs/SDs/GMTs, but that also means you can buy them a lot cheaper in the first instance. Too early to really tell whether the DeepSea will hold value. When the first pieces started showing up in the US in Oct 08, folks were paying $11K for them; now you can get one for $7K. __________________ 16610 Submariner Date; D Serial 16234 DateJust SS with WG Fluted Bezel & Jubillee, White Roman Dial; F Serial 16570 Explorer II White Dial; M Serial And Hers: 78240 Mid-Size DateJust SS with Domed Bezel & Oyster, White Roman; D Serial

24 February 2010, 12:07 AM	#26
TattooedGQ "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Justin Location: NY, USA Watch: yo self! Posts: 2,686	I say go Deepsea.....I cant jump on the HUGE fluted bezel bandwagon on the DJII __________________ That boy's got the Devil in him. Rolex: I think I'm up to 9?? Omega: Got a few of those too. Breitling: And some of these.

26 February 2010, 03:41 PM	#30
DS_Obsessed "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: J Location: Texas Watch: 116660 V Posts: 438	Get both. DS first. DJ2 later. Both are cool and both are Rolexes. Sport watch is the most versitile and DJ is more dressy. Either way you can't go wrong, but both are a start of a solid "newer" rolex collection. __________________ _______________________________ Currently wearing : 116000 V / 116660 V / PAM 292 / AP royal Oak Offshore Safari / Royal Oak Offshore Volcano / Tudor heritage / 116520 “For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack”

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