He hates these cans!

[DRAWTOOL]

The chrono movement DD 2054 used in the new Tudor. Why is it reviled? Why is it "unservicable", why is it "disposable"? Is it made of cheese or plastic or something? Should I hate it too?

[rolexsubdate]

Rolex and cans .... if you hate these cans, then something is very wrong with you....

[Dan Pierce]

Originally Posted by DRAWTOOL

The chrono movement DD 2054 used in the new Tudor. Why is it reviled? Why is it "unservicable", why is it "disposable"? Is it made of cheese or plastic or something? Should I hate it too?

Watchmakers find them difficult to work on and the added module requires the base movement to work harder than in integrated chrono movement.
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[Jackxv]

You shouldn't hate it but understand what you might be buying.

The base movement and module are almost identical to the SWATCH group cheaper chrono's

It should be reliable but after the guarantee big problems will be expensive.
I once had a speedmaster reduced, blue dial Andretti Cart Series, which didn't properly reset, it was fixed under warranty. The complete module was changed.

Jack

[Dan Pierce]

Originally Posted by Jackxv

You shouldn't hate it but understand what you might be buying.

The base movement and module are almost identical to the SWATCH group cheaper chrono's

It should be reliable but after the guarantee big problems will be expensive.
I once had a speedmaster reduced, blue dial Andretti Cart Series, which didn't properly reset, it was fixed under warranty. The complete module was changed.

Jack

It's also a movement and module used in very high end brands like AP.
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[wantonebad]

Its a heartbreak really, but as someone so eloquently put it already on another post, Tudor is Tudor and Rolex is Rolex, to put an integrated movement in this watch would raise the price significantly.

They had to know though that people would pay it? It is curious, but then true WIS would be hard pressed to choose between it and a Daytona, no?

[Dan Pierce]

Originally Posted by wantonebad

Its a heartbreak really, but as someone so eloquently put it already on another post, Tudor is Tudor and Rolex is Rolex, to put an integrated movement in this watch would raise the price significantly.

They had to know though that people would pay it? It is curious, but then true WIS would be hard pressed to choose between it and a Daytona, no?

They could have used a 2 sub modified 7750 at a reasonable cost to source. And you're right, have to choose the Tudor chrono every time.
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[buz-lh]

Maybe the upcoming changes regarding ebauche sales at Swatch Group influenced the use of this movement.

[acce1999]

Originally Posted by wantonebad

Its a heartbreak really, but as someone so eloquently put it already on another post, Tudor is Tudor and Rolex is Rolex, to put an integrated movement in this watch would raise the price significantly.

They had to know though that people would pay it? It is curious, but then true WIS would be hard pressed to choose between it and a Daytona, no?

Not really. Sellita (swiss company) is producing a 7750 clone, that could have been modified to a bi-compax layout in collaboration with Tudor at a decent price. There must be some troublesome business logic behind the decision of Tudor to go the module way.

Also, using a 7750, instead of the current module wouldn't increase the price. Actually the Heritage will be twice as expensive as the Tudor chrono (with a 7750) that I bought a year ago, so there is a good margin in the price already, and come to think about it that chrono (one of the last of the old style) offers a huge amount of fun for the money. The Heritage will be cool, but the price is already high, with the expected ca 3000 euros. And if it wasn't for the looks I would never consider it a candidate for purchase... If I buy it I will buy it as a fashion item (and enjoy it for that). Of course I expect the quality and service to be of the current high standards of Rolex and Tudor. I am not that worried about the caliber itself... but I expected something different. (To be fair I didn't expect a re-issue either, so perhaps I shouldn't complain too much )

Best,

A

[Ebruner]

Another reason that a Tudor is NOT a Rolex, and never will be.

They are indeed fine watches and can stand on their own merits.

But too many people like to act as if they are the same as a Rolex, and they are not.

-Eddie

[Dan Pierce]

Originally Posted by Ebruner

Another reason that a Tudor is NOT a Rolex, and never will be.

They are indeed fine watches and can stand on their own merits.

But too many people like to act as if they are the same as a Rolex, and they are not.

-Eddie

Who? True, two different brands. In many cases I like Tudor better.
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