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Old 3 April 2010, 01:32 AM   #1
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Oh oh... I'm in TRouble!

Went out with my wifey today since its holiday...
After dinner, she went to visit some of her friends at LV,Channel and etc
So I decided as well to visit my friends at some ADs.
I've finally decided to try some PAM cause I have been drooling from some of the post here at TRF




After trying it.....
Oh my Oh my!!! it not only Talks! IT SINGS!!
The owner offered my Subbie + 2250US for a BNEW Pam 312! What the!
Never expect this to happen but that really got me thinking for a moment..
Finally got my composure back and politely told him that I will think it over
What would you do if you are me?
Should I join the DARK side as well?
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Old 3 April 2010, 01:40 AM   #2
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If you've got another Rolex at home, then maybe. But, if your Sub is your only then you should hang onto it and get the 312 anyway. The 312 is a great piece!
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Old 3 April 2010, 01:40 AM   #3
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if you have enough cash to take the $2250 and put it towards buying the new sub-c or a good pre-loved sub, then YES, do it. the 312 is STUNNING.

otherwise, maybe do it anyway, and take the $2250 and save for a new or pre-loved sub? change is good!
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What would you do if you are me?
I dunno but if I were me I'd be a keepin' my sub and my money.
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Old 3 April 2010, 01:45 AM   #5
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if you have enough cash to take the $2250 and put it towards buying the new sub-c or a good pre-loved sub, then YES, do it. the 312 is STUNNING.

otherwise, maybe do it anyway, and take the $2250 and save for a new or pre-loved sub? change is good!


oh, ooops, sorry, i misread your post....i thought he was going to give YOU cash....my bad.
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Old 3 April 2010, 01:47 AM   #6
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From the pictures it seems a little too big. What is your wrist size?
Have you tried PAM24 or 25 yet?
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I would keep my sub and when you can get one outright--go for it--great watches!
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Old 3 April 2010, 01:58 AM   #8
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If you've got another Rolex at home, then maybe. But, if your Sub is your only then you should hang onto it and get the 312 anyway. The 312 is a great piece!
I do have my GV as my dress watch and my Subbie as my everyday watch.
I am actually quite satisfied with the current line up..
But there is something about this PAM312 that intrigues me
Finance is not actually the issue here. but can I justify to my wife of having another watch as my weekend watch maybe?
FLipping one of my Rollie before getting it would be easy..... but I dunno if I can do that
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I am actually quite satisfied with the current line up..
That's a lovely position to be in & IMO I wouldn't 'flip' anything then.

(& if the 312 sings to you I'd buy her anyway! )
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I do have my GV as my dress watch and my Subbie as my everyday watch.
I am actually quite satisfied with the current line up..
But there is something about this PAM312 that intrigues me
Finance is not actually the issue here. but can I justify to my wife of having another watch as my weekend watch maybe?
FLipping one of my Rollie before getting it would be easy..... but I dunno if I can do that

if you don't feel like justifying things to the wifey, i'd think you can flip the GV and use the 312 as the dress watch (if it's not too big on you), and keep the sub as the everyday one.

i've been filing your thread, sorry. it's because i really, REALLY like the 312, and hope to have it some day. i'm just living through you at the moment. thanks!
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Old 3 April 2010, 02:07 AM   #11
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Don't do the trade. The 16610 is a classic - why do you think it's remained virtually unchanged for so many years?

As much as I like the Panerai, I don't think it's worth the trade. I think the novelty of the larger watch will wear off.

Not to mention, I'm sure the Sub probably fits you better than the Pam.

If you do the trade, there may be a high probability of you buying another 16610 later (in the used market as they're discontinued).

Good luck either way.
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if you don't feel like justifying things to the wifey, i'd think you can flip the GV and use the 312 as the dress watch (if it's not too big on you), and keep the sub as the everyday one.

i've been filing your thread, sorry. it's because i reall, REALLY like the 312, and hope to have it some day. i'm just living through you at the moment. thanks!
I can't get it out of my head since trying it
I am now in trouble!
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Old 3 April 2010, 02:11 AM   #13
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From the pictures it seems a little too big. What is your wrist size?
Have you tried PAM24 or 25 yet?
hmm.. interesting. I haven't actually tried measuring my wrist.
Will try and let you know.
Whats the ideal wrist size for a 44m by the way?
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Old 3 April 2010, 02:12 AM   #14
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I dunno but if I were me I'd be a keepin' my sub and my money.
That's what I have done so far.... but for how long??
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Old 3 April 2010, 02:14 AM   #15
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Whats the ideal wrist size for a 44m by the way?
Just start eating like a sumo wrestler and the watch will fit right in no time...
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Old 3 April 2010, 02:15 AM   #16
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I dunno but if I were me I'd be a keepin' my sub and my money.
Ditto!
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Oh no! Another good member lost to the Dark Side!

I would say keep the sub, but it seems like you're losing sleep over the PAM.

Losing sleep is one of my conditions for buying a watch, and although I am firmly on the Rolex side of enthusiasm, it sounds like you will be happy with this purchase.
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Oh no! Another good member lost to the Dark Side!

I would say keep the sub, but it seems like you're losing sleep over the PAM.

Losing sleep is one of my conditions for buying a watch, and although I am firmly on the Rolex side of enthusiasm, it sounds like you will be happy with this purchase.
FYI.. Not yet
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Old 3 April 2010, 02:27 AM   #19
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Old 3 April 2010, 02:29 AM   #20
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Carlos you have got it bad!!!!!!

So which would be your every day watch if you got the 312????

I think Pams are fantastic....but i would not consider one as a daily wearer for me.

I would rather swap my GV rather than my Sub and use the 312 as the occasional watch and the Sub for daily.


OR....just buy 312 outright...and we can all drool over the pics!!!!

Good luck deciding!!


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Old 3 April 2010, 02:30 AM   #21
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i would say keep the cash
i bought two pams in early year and im still a big fan of panerai
panerai has attractive and tough outlook,but itz now highly overpriced
the case is extremely easy to get scratched,n in this 312,i do think itz odd without a cyclops on the large dial
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Carlos you have got it bad!!!!!!

So which would be your every day watch if you got the 312????

I think Pams are fantastic....but i would not consider one as a daily wearer for me.

I would rather swap my GV rather than my Sub and use the 312 as the occasional watch and the Sub for daily.


OR....just buy 312 outright...and we can all drool over the pics!!!!

Good luck deciding!!


Not helping at all!!
I think that i have some troubles with flipping!
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Old 3 April 2010, 03:06 AM   #23
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i would say keep the cash
i bought two pams in early year and im still a big fan of panerai
panerai has attractive and tough outlook,but itz now highly overpriced
the case is extremely easy to get scratched,n in this 312,i do think itz odd without a cyclops on the large dial
Thanks
But I honestly finds PAM with the cyclops a bit odd though.


Oh well.. We'll see where this curiousity will lead me to
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If you've got another Rolex at home, then maybe. But, if your Sub is your only then you should hang onto it and get the 312 anyway. The 312 is a great piece!
i agree with this. if you have another rolex, then maybe. if the sub is your only rolex, then i wouldn't. i love the 312 as well. I wish I gotten this over my pam 90. i love the non-cyclops look although i think the cyclops (more like reverse compare to rolex) more than the rolex cyclops as it's flushed and flows better in my opinion. what's the going rate on the 312? maybe you can find a pre-loved 312?
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it seems too large for your wrist. maybe a 40mm Panerai would be better. just my HO.
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Carlos!!

You are ruined! You will join the dark side shortly!

You have the Sub, the GV... and to join my trifecta - you need the 312.

Here is what your crew will look like...
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I think Joey's post just sealed your fate, Carlos!

Those three side-by-side-by-side look great! Don't flip, just add!


Nice pic BTW, Joey!
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I think Joey's post just sealed your fate, Carlos!

Those three side-by-side-by-side look great! Don't flip, just add!


Nice pic BTW, Joey!
Thank you, jib!!!
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I would get the 312 outright, no trade + cash.
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Keep your Sub... If you do the deal that means you will be selling you V Sub For $4150... and that is way tooo low.
you can get the 312 for $6400 new less the $2250 = $4150
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