Rolex DJ vs. Omega LE

[Qatari_9]

Hello guys,

I was in the Rolex official store and had a look on the DateJust 116200, Price $4,950 looks exactly like



OR

The Limited Edition Omega Proffessional, Price $4,300




Please advice me my fellow TRF members, I am really confused I like both of them. Both watches are from official Rolex and Omega stores. And does the price seems a bit high for the rolex watch since they didn't do any discount ?

Cheers

[chriseskew24]

This is really not comparable models but I would want the speedy over the DJ every day of the week.

[Qatari_9]

Originally Posted by chriseskew24

This is really not comparable models but I would want the speedy over the DJ every day of the week.

hmm yes i think it looks better on hand, still not sure really

[BMAN8]

The Datejust for me! The 116200 looks beautiful.

If I were buying a speedy, I would go for the classic 3570.50. There are way too many Speedy limited editions, IMHO, that has dilluted their significance.

[Fiery]

The Speedmaster 40th Anniversary is a wonderful piece, but IMHO the price is a bit steep for what it is. Keep in mind that the Speedmaster has a manual-wound movement that you have to wind every day. And it has a hesalite (plastic) crystal that scratches easily -- but also polishes easily. If you're fine with those properties, then it could be a very nice pick. However, for quite a few proposed customers those properties are considered as limitations.

[icnbne]

speedy for sure..
but i would also get the standard non-limited one..

[Qatari_9]

Originally Posted by Fiery

The Speedmaster 40th Anniversary is a wonderful piece, but IMHO the price is a bit steep for what it is. Keep in mind that the Speedmaster has a manual-wound movement that you have to wind every day. And it has a hesalite (plastic) crystal that scratches easily -- but also polishes easily. If you're fine with those properties, then it could be a very nice pick. However, for quite a few proposed customers those properties are considered as limitations.

No the omega comes with Sapphire crystal sorry I didnt mention it it's different than the one in the website but with same reference code number!

[tkc324]

i would go with the Speedy over DJ...

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by Qatari_9

No the omega comes with Sapphire crystal sorry I didnt mention it it's different than the one in the website but with same reference code number!

Which model number is that? Omega is sometimes not 100% clear about those things, so make sure to pick the right watch for you.

[warrior]

not even close...the speedmaster. however, for that price, i'd get the sapphire sandwich or the 50th Anniversary Patch with the gold horse. you can get bigger discounts on omegas as well.

[sea-dweller]

I would go with the DJ...

[Qatari_9]

Originally Posted by warrior

not even close...the speedmaster. however, for that price, i'd get the sapphire sandwich or the 50th Anniversary Patch with the gold horse. you can get bigger discounts on omegas as well.

I did my best on the speedy and the final price was 4,300 but for the DJ they dont give any discounts I mean the Rolex store they are fixed, the rolex is too classic and i think its too expensive for a steel only watch but still i can afford it.

[Ebruner]

Rolex DJ 7 days a week.


-Eddie

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by warrior

not even close...the speedmaster. however, for that price, i'd get the sapphire sandwich or the 50th Anniversary Patch with the gold horse. you can get bigger discounts on omegas as well.

Maybe it's just me, but I can't stand the sapphire sandwich Speedmaster (3573.50), since it has an untruth statement on the caseback ("The first and only watch worn on the Moon"). Plus, it has a different movement to what is used in other Speedmaster Professionals these days.

[daveathall]

If it was me I would get the non LE Speedy, if that wasnt available I would get the DJ over the Speedy pictured.

[Qatari_9]

Originally Posted by daveathall

If it was me I would get the non LE Speedy, if that wasnt available I would get the DJ over the Speedy pictured.

I dont understand why people prefer the non LE speedy over the LE, the LE looks way better and even more expensive both are quite the same except the apollo11 silver logo at 9,oclock.
is there anything else i should know? concerned about?

[daveathall]

No, just my opinion, how many different LEs are there out there though? seems like they bring them out every 5 minutes.

[jets]

Originally Posted by daveathall

No, just my opinion, how many different LEs are there out there though? seems like they bring them out every 5 minutes.

No, every 5 years

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Qatari_9

I dont understand why people prefer the non LE speedy over the LE, the LE looks way better and even more expensive both are quite the same except the apollo11 silver logo at 9,oclock.
is there anything else i should know? concerned about?

Omega makes LE Speedies by the barrel load. This reduces their value because what, exactly, is it representing when they represent everything they can think of.. Get the original and you always have the "right" one..

The one LE that retains it's value well is the 50th Anniversary model.. It actually represents 50 years of the Speedy... a worthy use of the LE designation..

But, it pretty much seems that you are leaning toward the Speedy, so get it... It is well respected and loved my many, many WIS...

Like others have said......... These two watches are so different, there would probably be a distinct line on both sides of the fence who would insist on one over the other..

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by Qatari_9

I dont understand why people prefer the non LE speedy over the LE, the LE looks way better and even more expensive both are quite the same except the apollo11 silver logo at 9,oclock.
is there anything else i should know? concerned about?

That particular LE model (the Apollo 11 40th Anniversary) does indeed look nice, but most LE models are not so different than the 3570.50. But Omega still charges premium for them, just because they're LE. If those LE models were all limited to no more than 500 pieces, then I'd like them, but some of them are limited to 8000 or 10000 pieces -- that's not a true LE in my book.

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by jets

No, every 5 years

In 2007 they rolled out two LE models (50th Anniversary, 50th Anniversary "Patch"), in 2008 they rolled out the "Alaska Project", in 2009 they rolled out the Apollo 11 40th Anniversary (in fact, it's two LE models, again), in 2010 they rolled out the Apollo-Soyuz 35th Anniversary. That's quite a bit more frequent than one in every 5 years

[eyen]

I think you can get a better price for the dj.

[gone-rolex-mad]

I love the DJ, just not on the jubilee, or with the dial shown. If it were on an oyster it would be a tougher choice. I'm not a lover of that speedy either lol, much prefer the saphire sandwich. Back to the point, out of the ones you have shown, I'd go for the speedy. Best of luck!

[Qatari_9]

Originally Posted by eyen

I think you can get a better price for the dj.

I am getting sick of nowadays replica rolex watches that seems almost the same as the original, but i never saw a replica speedy before :).
Anyway how much you think i can get the DJ for in any trusted website?

[timetravel125]

Every collector should have an Speedy and an DJ. So, whichever you picked, you won't go wrong.

If budget isn't an issue at this point, buy both. Problem solved.

[daveathall]

Originally Posted by jets

No, every 5 years

Really? Im not convinced.

[karmatp]

If you go with the Speedy, get the true icon which is the 3570.50 and talk to Fr. John for his AD info to save a bunch of cash. The speedy pro is a watch that all true watch lovers need to own, it is just amazing on the wrist. Look under the Omega sub forum for more positive comments on the speedmaster, I just can't say enough.

Another plus with the speedy is that you are not stuck with wearing only a bracelet, pick up some Hirsch or Di-Modell straps and you have one watch that can look different every day of the week.

[mike]

Between those two, the Speedmaster.

[Cru Jones]

sorry, i can't help much with this one...the watches are SO different, i'd need to know more about your situation and what you're looking for.

the speedmaster IS an icon, but, i'm not sure the model you're showing it the one i'd go for. to each his own!

[The GMT Master]

If you had that kind of money to play with, I'd get a non LE Speedy Pro and a quartz Aqua Terra - you get essentially both watches you're choosing between. I wouldn't bother with the 40th anniversary LE because:

a) It's essentially a standard Speedy Pro with a couple of medallions and a fancy box. Definitely a hesalite crystal instead of a sapphire

b) The £1500 premium is unjustified (IMO)

c) It's not limited enough to justify the premium.

I might also add that in my experience, the LE has been a very slow mover. Some interest, but I think people have cottoned on to the fact it's not a great deal.

As for the Aqua Terra, I think it's a great looking watch, and at the entry price point, very reasonable on the pocket. In an ideal world, I'd take the cal. 8500 version, but for the purposes of the watches and price range on hand, the quartz fits the bill very nicely.

Hope this helps

Chris