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Jay123 · 13 April 2010, 09:21 PM

Last year i came into a rolex, i didnt buy it NOR did i steal it. After wearing it for a few months i have recently been told it could be a replica. I dont hardly know anything about rolex's or watches so im going to upload a picture onto here to let the experts see. Im too ill to leave the house atm or else id be at the jewelers asap. Also, if it is a replica im sorry to have been saying thinking its genuine. My apologies

Kapture1 · 13 April 2010, 09:28 PM

The experts will be by shortly

Looks ok, but really hard to tell based on that photo. Post more pics... clearer pics and avoid reflection.

jets · 13 April 2010, 09:59 PM

Yeah better photos means better answers :)

Jay123 · 13 April 2010, 10:05 PM

What would be the best photo to shoot guys? Like what position should i put the watch in?

Bear1978 · 13 April 2010, 10:09 PM

A lot of modern fakes are impossible to spot in a photo. Only way you'll know for sure is to give it to a jeweller. He'll know the second he takes the back off.

BASSETHOUNDS · 13 April 2010, 10:10 PM

Try weighing it .

The GMT Master · 13 April 2010, 10:13 PM

The magnification looks like it might be a little off on the cyclops, but it's hard to tell

DWdrummer · 13 April 2010, 10:13 PM

Well from that pic its hard to tell for sure. It looks like there could be some stretch between the links which would indicate they are gold.

However take it to a Rolex dealer to be sure. Its the only way. Just because it is gold, assuming it is, doesnt make it a genuine Rolex.

Weigh it, real solid gold is heavy. If that watch doesnt feel very heavy for its size sitting in your hand, that is indicator number one something is not right.

swissautopro · 13 April 2010, 10:14 PM

Based on this very sketchy photo, it looks very iffy to me. The date wheel font doesn't look right, nor does the dial font. But, again, it is difficult to tell much from the photo. Take it to an AD.

adam78 · 13 April 2010, 10:14 PM

Well, if it looks to be gold (your photo is not the best, sorry), a replica is invariably gold-plated, whereas the real thing is solid gold. That wouldn't be hard to find out.

WatchnRoll · 13 April 2010, 10:16 PM

A couple of things to look for...

1st - on an all gold presidential day date...that watch should be heavy. If it feels light...it's a fake.

2nd - since youve been wearing it for a while...do you see any of the gold rubbing off any where? If so, it's a fake...

3rd - Take a picture of the clasp...the fakes usually have bad tooling and the clasp is an easy place to see crappy work.

From this one picture...it's hard to tell for sure. Any person who knows Rolex watches can tell IN PERSON with that watch in 10 seconds...bring it to an authorized dealer and they will know for sure.

The biggest tell tale sign of these...is the weight.

Good luck.

Kapture1 · 13 April 2010, 10:18 PM

Does the date snap over or slowly turn over?

The best fakes in the world can only be spotted when you open the back.

When we say better photos, we want clearer photos. That image you posted, I wouldnt be able to read the wording on the dial and would have no idea what it says, if I didnt already know.

Kapture1 · 13 April 2010, 10:37 PM

Camera have a Macro setting? Put it on that and turn off any flash. try to be in a lighted area

Renoir · 13 April 2010, 10:43 PM

Just my humble observations:

- the font type and size on the day wheel is incorrect

- the case lugs shape at the ends have curves and are too thick at the ends

- the dial print is sloppy and tritium markers with diamonds are not common

- minute hand too short, hour hand too long, second hand too thick

IMHO, fake. Sorry.

Puffy · 13 April 2010, 10:54 PM

The font does look very thin...

tkc324 · 14 April 2010, 01:32 AM

First of all... the cyclope looks to have an angle from left to right... almost a descending angle. but the bottom of the cyclope doesn't have that issue. That would be sign that this is a replica.

A close up picture of the dial would be much easier to tell if this is a replica. We need to see the wording on the dial.

Alan111 · 14 April 2010, 01:36 AM

The date font is definitely wrong.
The cyclops magnification looks weak too.

However the case and end links look spot on correct.

We definitely need more pictures and possibly the weight.

Tools · 14 April 2010, 01:50 AM

As has been said, that photograph isn't really going to help determine authenticity..

You might ask yourself how you came about the watch.. Usually when there is a $30,000 item involved, it's origins have a definite life-path..

good photos would include the dial, back, and both sides where the numbers are and the bracelet removed.. Having the back removed is the best guage if it is authentic... nobody makes a replica movement...

Renoir · 14 April 2010, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan111

The date font is definitely wrong.
The cyclops magnification looks weak too.

However the case and end links look spot on correct.

We definitely need more pictures and possibly the weight.

The case is not correct. The lugs should not curve out and get fatter at the ends.

Lion · 14 April 2010, 01:59 AM

As Larry said, take it to an authorized AD and have it checked out.....

Rolex Freak · 14 April 2010, 02:09 AM

I would have to agree with my fellow members, that it's hard to tell from just one blurry picture, however at first glance I thought the cyclops tapered a bit left to right, the lugs too broad and the second hand too wide. Better more clear pictures would help.

BMAN8 · 14 April 2010, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renoir

Just my humble observations:

- the font type and size on the day wheel is incorrect

- the case lugs shape at the ends have curves and are too thick at the ends

- the dial print is sloppy and tritium markers with diamonds are not common

- minute hand too short, hour hand too long, second hand too thick

IMHO, fake. Sorry.

Good observations, Renoir. As only a casual observer, I would agree with your all of your points.

mpkRolex · 14 April 2010, 02:30 AM

Only way to know for sure is to open the case back and look at the movement. Professional eyes of a Rolex certified watchmaker will give you a final say. Good luck

Kapture1 · 14 April 2010, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkc324

First of all... the cyclope looks to have an angle from left to right... almost a descending angle. but the bottom of the cyclope doesn't have that issue. That would be sign that this is a replica.

Good catch, didnt see it untill I looked again

TheBluePrince · 14 April 2010, 08:08 AM

That's a poor quality replica/fake.

If it was real that's a £20K+ watch. You don't just happen upon something like that.

Ed Rooney · 14 April 2010, 09:20 AM

Flea market replica.

Mockingbird · 14 April 2010, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renoir

Just my humble observations:

- the font type and size on the day wheel is incorrect

- the case lugs shape at the ends have curves and are too thick at the ends

- the dial print is sloppy and tritium markers with diamonds are not common

- minute hand too short, hour hand too long, second hand too thick

IMHO, fake. Sorry.

And the magnification looks way off to me, and the cyclops in uneven.

thesharkfactor · 14 April 2010, 10:09 AM

looks like the rehaut/inner ring is shiny too- the way the markers shine/reflect of it. as far as i know, rehauts are brushed finshed, not polished. bracelet fit is sloppy in the lugs- gaps on each side too large.

as above, you dont just happen upon an a very expensive watch like that and know little about it. im sure you know more than your telling...

if you cant do get better pictures, go stick it on a set of scales, tell us what it weighs...

Omega_Precision · 14 April 2010, 10:15 AM

Fake....I see it too.

I believe everyone has spotted everything wrong with it....cyclops, magnification, the hour hand is off and the minute as well.

SubKing · 14 April 2010, 12:03 PM

it's a fake, the lugs are all wrong... the watch clearly has an aftermarket dial, the case is off... the sel the way it connects to the case, the gaps are too obvious.. if it was real the sel links would not have gaps like that unless it had much wear and tear, but the watch clearly looks almost new. if you really wanted to know for sure, you should have taken your time and posted better pictures

13 April 2010, 09:21 PM	#1
Jay123 Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: England Posts: 26	Bad news.. Last year i came into a rolex, i didnt buy it NOR did i steal it. After wearing it for a few months i have recently been told it could be a replica. I dont hardly know anything about rolex's or watches so im going to upload a picture onto here to let the experts see. Im too ill to leave the house atm or else id be at the jewelers asap. Also, if it is a replica im sorry to have been saying thinking its genuine. My apologies

13 April 2010, 09:28 PM	#2
Kapture1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Flint, MI Watch: Ω 3570.50.00 Posts: 2,058	The experts will be by shortly Looks ok, but really hard to tell based on that photo. Post more pics... clearer pics and avoid reflection. __________________ Miss you JJ Wash out this tired notion that the best is yet to come

13 April 2010, 09:59 PM	#3
jets "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mario Location: CANADA Posts: 2,483	Yeah better photos means better answers :) __________________ ♛ DJII 116234 · Submariner 126610LV · Yacht Master 42 226659 ✿ Pelagos 25600TN Ω X-33 Speedmaster Skywalker · 1861 Speedmaster Modsukoshi · SMP 2254.50 · SMP 2230.50 NAC · Seamaster 300 166.0324 · Genève 162.037 Seiko SLA033 Willard · SKX007

13 April 2010, 10:14 PM	#9
swissautopro "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: South Carolina Watch: 3.3M 1655 Mk I Posts: 2,384	Based on this very sketchy photo, it looks very iffy to me. The date wheel font doesn't look right, nor does the dial font. But, again, it is difficult to tell much from the photo. Take it to an AD. __________________ "A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a bandit, and scarcity like an armed man." Proverbs 24 "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt." Unknown "Better to be a nobody and yet have a servant than pretend to be somebody and have no food." Proverbs 12

13 April 2010, 10:14 PM	#10
adam78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,830	Well, if it looks to be gold (your photo is not the best, sorry), a replica is invariably gold-plated, whereas the real thing is solid gold. That wouldn't be hard to find out. __________________ Cheers, Adam

13 April 2010, 10:05 PM	#4
Jay123 Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: England Posts: 26	What would be the best photo to shoot guys? Like what position should i put the watch in?

13 April 2010, 10:09 PM	#5
Bear1978 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: London Posts: 15	A lot of modern fakes are impossible to spot in a photo. Only way you'll know for sure is to give it to a jeweller. He'll know the second he takes the back off.

13 April 2010, 10:10 PM	#6
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Try weighing it .

13 April 2010, 10:13 PM	#7
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,150	The magnification looks like it might be a little off on the cyclops, but it's hard to tell

13 April 2010, 10:13 PM	#8
DWdrummer Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 954	Well from that pic its hard to tell for sure. It looks like there could be some stretch between the links which would indicate they are gold. However take it to a Rolex dealer to be sure. Its the only way. Just because it is gold, assuming it is, doesnt make it a genuine Rolex. Weigh it, real solid gold is heavy. If that watch doesnt feel very heavy for its size sitting in your hand, that is indicator number one something is not right.

13 April 2010, 10:16 PM	#11
WatchnRoll "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 538	A couple of things to look for... 1st - on an all gold presidential day date...that watch should be heavy. If it feels light...it's a fake. 2nd - since youve been wearing it for a while...do you see any of the gold rubbing off any where? If so, it's a fake... 3rd - Take a picture of the clasp...the fakes usually have bad tooling and the clasp is an easy place to see crappy work. From this one picture...it's hard to tell for sure. Any person who knows Rolex watches can tell IN PERSON with that watch in 10 seconds...bring it to an authorized dealer and they will know for sure. The biggest tell tale sign of these...is the weight. Good luck. __________________ Navitimer 01 on Black Leather Strap

13 April 2010, 10:18 PM	#12
Kapture1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Flint, MI Watch: Ω 3570.50.00 Posts: 2,058	Does the date snap over or slowly turn over? The best fakes in the world can only be spotted when you open the back. When we say better photos, we want clearer photos. That image you posted, I wouldnt be able to read the wording on the dial and would have no idea what it says, if I didnt already know. __________________ Miss you JJ Wash out this tired notion that the best is yet to come

13 April 2010, 10:37 PM	#13
Kapture1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Flint, MI Watch: Ω 3570.50.00 Posts: 2,058	Camera have a Macro setting? Put it on that and turn off any flash. try to be in a lighted area __________________ Miss you JJ Wash out this tired notion that the best is yet to come

13 April 2010, 10:43 PM	#14
Renoir "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Renato Location: New York Posts: 2,396	Just my humble observations: - the font type and size on the day wheel is incorrect - the case lugs shape at the ends have curves and are too thick at the ends - the dial print is sloppy and tritium markers with diamonds are not common - minute hand too short, hour hand too long, second hand too thick IMHO, fake. Sorry.

13 April 2010, 10:54 PM	#15
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	The font does look very thin... __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

14 April 2010, 01:32 AM	#16
tkc324 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Tom Location: Chi town Watch: Daytona AP DD Sub Posts: 3,717	First of all... the cyclope looks to have an angle from left to right... almost a descending angle. but the bottom of the cyclope doesn't have that issue. That would be sign that this is a replica. A close up picture of the dial would be much easier to tell if this is a replica. We need to see the wording on the dial.

14 April 2010, 01:36 AM	#17
Alan111 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 1,605	The date font is definitely wrong. The cyclops magnification looks weak too. However the case and end links look spot on correct. We definitely need more pictures and possibly the weight.

14 April 2010, 01:50 AM	#18
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	As has been said, that photograph isn't really going to help determine authenticity.. You might ask yourself how you came about the watch.. Usually when there is a $30,000 item involved, it's origins have a definite life-path.. good photos would include the dial, back, and both sides where the numbers are and the bracelet removed.. Having the back removed is the best guage if it is authentic... nobody makes a replica movement... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

14 April 2010, 01:59 AM	#20
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	As Larry said, take it to an authorized AD and have it checked out..... __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

14 April 2010, 02:09 AM	#21
Rolex Freak "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Sandro Location: Canada Watch: Rolex/GS Posts: 4,412	I would have to agree with my fellow members, that it's hard to tell from just one blurry picture, however at first glance I thought the cyclops tapered a bit left to right, the lugs too broad and the second hand too wide. Better more clear pictures would help.

14 April 2010, 02:30 AM	#23
mpkRolex 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Watch: Pepsi Posts: 2,170	Only way to know for sure is to open the case back and look at the movement. Professional eyes of a Rolex certified watchmaker will give you a final say. Good luck

14 April 2010, 08:08 AM	#25
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	That's a poor quality replica/fake. If it was real that's a £20K+ watch. You don't just happen upon something like that.

14 April 2010, 09:20 AM	#26
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	Flea market replica.

14 April 2010, 10:09 AM	#28
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,643	looks like the rehaut/inner ring is shiny too- the way the markers shine/reflect of it. as far as i know, rehauts are brushed finshed, not polished. bracelet fit is sloppy in the lugs- gaps on each side too large. as above, you dont just happen upon an a very expensive watch like that and know little about it. im sure you know more than your telling... if you cant do get better pictures, go stick it on a set of scales, tell us what it weighs...

14 April 2010, 10:15 AM	#29
Omega_Precision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Henry Location: CA, US Watch: ing basketball Posts: 2,977	Fake....I see it too. I believe everyone has spotted everything wrong with it....cyclops, magnification, the hour hand is off and the minute as well.

14 April 2010, 12:03 PM	#30
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	it's a fake, the lugs are all wrong... the watch clearly has an aftermarket dial, the case is off... the sel the way it connects to the case, the gaps are too obvious.. if it was real the sel links would not have gaps like that unless it had much wear and tear, but the watch clearly looks almost new. if you really wanted to know for sure, you should have taken your time and posted better pictures

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