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Титан · 21 April 2010, 12:13 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-SUBMARINER...item4ceeebcbd1

We are going to need several opinions on this one. The "E" appear to be long, due to the angle of the photo it makes for a difficult view on the lettering.

mcjp6 · 21 April 2010, 12:36 PM

You are right Frank, its a close call on this one given the angles.

The condition of the case looks almost too good for its age and the rehaut looks to be quite shiny, or is it lit too brightly.....

It is a shame that there are no pictures from the rear of the watch showing the crown guards. probably on purpose.

buddy Orchi where are you??

mcjp6 · 21 April 2010, 12:42 PM

here we go........

The numbers on the back of the case are unique to each watch. They relate to the quarter masters stock list, date and issue number.

In which case this listing is showing a fake, case back shown here has identical numbers and is from our well know scammers site. The one in the listing obviously roughed up a little to age it.

Also incorrect is the bezel, the 5517 was only ever issued with a full 60 minute bezel insert. $20k is also way too cheap.

seller agalia-1860 ( 165)

Now all we have to do is get rid of it.

mcjp6 · 21 April 2010, 01:08 PM

The two together for comparison......

Титан · 21 April 2010, 01:18 PM

The back of the case crown guards would have helped to determine the case being a non Rolex product, however like you said the photos are not showing it for a reason. Thanks for jolting my memory about the caseback, I should have seen that one big sign it was not real, I must be getting old. :)

TimeToGo · 21 April 2010, 09:26 PM

Excellent follow up!

BASSETHOUNDS · 21 April 2010, 09:28 PM

So much for the "unique" bit . Great follow up and tutorial , Michael . That is "watch out" at it's very best

idk01 · 21 April 2010, 09:51 PM

Great Catch Frank!!!!!! Nice info Michael

Hasta Lasagna!

mcjp6 · 21 April 2010, 11:30 PM

The seller has done the right thing here.......

quote

"Watch is from a friend!! Will end auction & will
see what is the situation!!

Thanks!!

Agalia

- agalia-1860"

Bidding has ended on this item.
Item:ROLEX SUBMARINER CAL. 1520 OYSTER PERPETUAL REF. 5517

BASSETHOUNDS · 21 April 2010, 11:31 PM

Credit where credit is due ... bet you we will find it on craigslist tonight

Orchi · 21 April 2010, 11:50 PM

Err buddies...that's a great catch...
n follow up...!

FAKEEE case/caseback n FAKEEE Dial...

Титан · 22 April 2010, 12:32 AM

Orchi nice to see you on the post. :)

mcjp6 · 22 April 2010, 02:31 PM

Withdrawn by the seller and now removed.....

This listing (330425945041) has been removed, or this item is not available.

bayerische · 22 April 2010, 04:37 PM

Great!

Another one bites the dust.

idk01 · 22 April 2010, 11:05 PM

Great outcome

21 April 2010, 12:13 PM	#1
Титан Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Frank McLaury Location: ON THE ROAD AGAIN Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 269	ROLEX SUBMARINER REF. 5517 Long E http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-SUBMARINER...item4ceeebcbd1 We are going to need several opinions on this one. The "E" appear to be long, due to the angle of the photo it makes for a difficult view on the lettering. Attached Images

21 April 2010, 12:42 PM	#3
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	here we go........ The numbers on the back of the case are unique to each watch. They relate to the quarter masters stock list, date and issue number. In which case this listing is showing a fake, case back shown here has identical numbers and is from our well know scammers site. The one in the listing obviously roughed up a little to age it. Also incorrect is the bezel, the 5517 was only ever issued with a full 60 minute bezel insert. $20k is also way too cheap. seller agalia-1860 ( 165) Now all we have to do is get rid of it. Attached Images

21 April 2010, 01:08 PM	#4
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	The two together for comparison...... Attached Images

21 April 2010, 09:51 PM	#8
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Great Catch Frank!!!!!! Nice info Michael Hasta Lasagna! __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

22 April 2010, 04:37 PM	#14
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Great! Another one bites the dust. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

21 April 2010, 12:36 PM	#2
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	You are right Frank, its a close call on this one given the angles. The condition of the case looks almost too good for its age and the rehaut looks to be quite shiny, or is it lit too brightly..... It is a shame that there are no pictures from the rear of the watch showing the crown guards. probably on purpose. buddy Orchi where are you??

21 April 2010, 01:18 PM	#5
Титан Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Frank McLaury Location: ON THE ROAD AGAIN Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 269	The back of the case crown guards would have helped to determine the case being a non Rolex product, however like you said the photos are not showing it for a reason. Thanks for jolting my memory about the caseback, I should have seen that one big sign it was not real, I must be getting old. :)

21 April 2010, 09:26 PM	#6
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,735	Excellent follow up!

21 April 2010, 09:28 PM	#7
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	So much for the "unique" bit . Great follow up and tutorial , Michael . That is "watch out" at it's very best

21 April 2010, 11:30 PM	#9
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	The seller has done the right thing here....... quote "Watch is from a friend!! Will end auction & will see what is the situation!! Thanks!! Agalia - agalia-1860" Bidding has ended on this item. Item:ROLEX SUBMARINER CAL. 1520 OYSTER PERPETUAL REF. 5517

21 April 2010, 11:31 PM	#10
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Credit where credit is due ... bet you we will find it on craigslist tonight

21 April 2010, 11:50 PM	#11
Orchi Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Malaysia Posts: 2,934	Err buddies...that's a great catch... n follow up...! FAKEEE case/caseback n FAKEEE Dial...

22 April 2010, 12:32 AM	#12
Титан Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Frank McLaury Location: ON THE ROAD AGAIN Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 269	Orchi nice to see you on the post. :)

22 April 2010, 02:31 PM	#13
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	Withdrawn by the seller and now removed..... This listing (330425945041) has been removed, or this item is not available.

22 April 2010, 11:05 PM	#15
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Great outcome __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

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