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greekbum · 13 May 2010, 10:13 PM

I lost by accepting pay pal big time before so I am always reluctant to accept it again.A forum member with under 100 posts has inquired about a watch of mine for sale and after a long phone conversation agreed to buy the watch if I take pay pal.I told him to pm his email address so I can send him an invoice through pay pal and he agreed. After the conversation I receive a few texts that he wants to use 2 pay pal accounts 1 US based another Taiwan based to split the charges.The Taiwan based card has an international address and cant be added to the US account.I responded with if he can do it with the 1 that has the address it would be shipped to for both our safety.His response was that both are verified and I am not trying to scam you just trying to split my charges to 2 different accounts and that if I don't trust him we don't have to proceed.I told him I never mentioned not trusting him or that he was a scammer just wanted to follow pay pal policy.I never heard back from him. Advise from the pay pal gang here. Is this a typical deal when someone wants to pay with pay pal?
Thanks

tudorman8276 · 13 May 2010, 10:19 PM

...there are plenty of buyers out there in watch land!!

Jackxv · 13 May 2010, 10:21 PM

That's just plain bullshit.

Why not wire transfer? Saves a lot of money and makes it safe for both.

Would not ever proceed with something like that.

Jack

greekbum · 13 May 2010, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackxv

That's just plain bullshit.

Why not wire transfer? Saves a lot of money and makes it safe for both.

Would not ever proceed with something like that.

Jack

Those were my exact thoughts but since its a forum member here I wanted the forums 2 cents. I didnt like the flow of events from a low ball offer a week ago to ill take it last night to the credit card paypal to the if you dont trust me we dont have to proceed.I always respect people and give them the benifit of doubt but wanted to see what others would have done.

roach7 · 13 May 2010, 10:26 PM

dont do it, if you split the payment and only ship one watch, you're going to lose the other payment when they claim they didn't receive anything.

R1@160@alltimes · 13 May 2010, 10:30 PM

I'd stay away from this, Nikos

Numismatist · 13 May 2010, 11:03 PM

Bad vibes on this.

mcjp6 · 13 May 2010, 11:09 PM

It sounds like a pile of

to me. I am glad you did not proceed.....

TimeToGo · 14 May 2010, 12:11 AM

Two accounts to "split the charges".... what charges, he does not get charged! You do!

greekbum · 14 May 2010, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Two accounts to "split the charges".... what charges, he does not get charged! You do!

He said he had 2 credit cards and 2 pay pal accounts 1 US and 1 International and wanted to split the credit card charges between both cards is what I gathered. There was no deal.

newmedia · 14 May 2010, 12:24 AM

Its a scam, if he really wants the watch , he could always transfer funds between two paypal accounts and send the money from one account.

JPersat · 14 May 2010, 12:27 AM

I would stay away from this...especially since he was the first to mention a scam. I would also have a Mod look into this guy since he is a member and see what kind of activity he is really into.

Too Old · 14 May 2010, 12:27 AM

You can have more than one credit card on a single paypal account, why can't he put them both on the US account and do two transactions using a different card each time?

dieseldragon · 14 May 2010, 01:54 AM

Playing devils advocate for a second.. If you transfer funds from one paypal account to another so to send in one go, he would have to pay fees.
I like to use my paypal account because I sell on ebay and its easier to pay using that, than transfer money out to bank account and then transfer again.

Personally I hate PayPal. There is no protection for purchases (outside ebay) and their fees are ridiculous, when there is a problem they never seem to give support to the seller, always seem to side with the purchaser.

I agree with the people here though, if it smells fishy, then walk away. Its just not worth the risk. If you have a good rapport with the purchaser/seller then the method of payment can be discussed. All payment methods are subject to risks on both sides..

inspires · 14 May 2010, 02:02 AM

I have two PayPal accounts, one that is Canadian (from before I relocated) and one is registered in Hong Kong. Both are verified to my home addresses and credit cards in each country. I have never tried paying for an item by splitting between the two accounts.

Devil's advocate again - perhaps the buyer has PayPal funds he wants to get rid of in one account, which would not cover the cost of the entire transaction, and would top up the rest with the other account.

Regardless, I think you can still accept payment from both accounts until you have the full payment, wait for all the funds to clear your 'bank account' and then ship out.

BASSETHOUNDS · 14 May 2010, 03:39 AM

I believe paypal & EBAY clearly advices NOT to accept split payments . No need to take the chance . I believe you we right to refuse

onkyo · 14 May 2010, 04:16 AM

I would only accept paypal outside of eBay if I knew the person or some one I know knows the person well.

..... So, don't do it Nikos.

robertneville · 14 May 2010, 04:54 AM

nope, wouldnt do it. no reason he cant link the credit card from the one account to the other. i have had 2 paypal accounts (me and wife) before with the same cc info.

Traveler · 14 May 2010, 05:01 AM

I would pass on this sale. If he can't wire transfer the money first - don't send him the watch. Too many legitimate buyers in the world to have to take a chance with this guy.

Welshwatchman · 14 May 2010, 05:09 AM

Run Forrest run !

spuds · 14 May 2010, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

Run Forrest run !

JRA · 16 May 2010, 01:49 AM

I've never sold a watch on any forum (or at all for that matter as of yet...but who knows) but I've purchased plenty as a couple of respected forum sellers and sponsors can attest to, and in my experience if someone is serious about buying they will take serious steps to do so. I always pay with a wire - it costs as little as $25, it's fast and saves a lot of time and BS for all involved. If you're paying $3k, $5k $10k, etc. for a watch and you're worried about a few extra bucks then you should reconsider the purchase - there are plenty of buyers who provide easy, no BS conditions to purchase. You're better off just waiting for someone like that, wondering if they're going to love the watch you're selling them than wondering if you're about to get screwed!

sea-dweller · 16 May 2010, 03:16 AM

Sounds like a scam. Anytime anything doesn't sound right, I "kill" the deal when I sell. Better safe than sorry.

13 May 2010, 10:13 PM	#1
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,418	Advise from forum about paypal I lost by accepting pay pal big time before so I am always reluctant to accept it again.A forum member with under 100 posts has inquired about a watch of mine for sale and after a long phone conversation agreed to buy the watch if I take pay pal.I told him to pm his email address so I can send him an invoice through pay pal and he agreed. After the conversation I receive a few texts that he wants to use 2 pay pal accounts 1 US based another Taiwan based to split the charges.The Taiwan based card has an international address and cant be added to the US account.I responded with if he can do it with the 1 that has the address it would be shipped to for both our safety.His response was that both are verified and I am not trying to scam you just trying to split my charges to 2 different accounts and that if I don't trust him we don't have to proceed.I told him I never mentioned not trusting him or that he was a scammer just wanted to follow pay pal policy.I never heard back from him. Advise from the pay pal gang here. Is this a typical deal when someone wants to pay with pay pal? Thanks __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

13 May 2010, 10:19 PM	#2
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...NO...not typical...W A L K...away from the deal... ...there are plenty of buyers out there in watch land!!

13 May 2010, 10:21 PM	#3
Jackxv "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 969	Bullshit That's just plain bullshit. Why not wire transfer? Saves a lot of money and makes it safe for both. Would not ever proceed with something like that. Jack

13 May 2010, 10:30 PM	#6
R1@160@alltimes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: ♛ Posts: 4,408	I'd stay away from this, Nikos __________________

13 May 2010, 11:03 PM	#7
Numismatist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: Camden ME & STT Watch: 116600 Posts: 6,350	Bad vibes on this. __________________ Rolex 116600 Sea-dweller Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White Legrand FP Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White RB Montblanc Meisterstück Diamond Mozart BP Montblanc Meisterstück Mozart BP

13 May 2010, 10:26 PM	#5
roach7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: henry Location: nyc Watch: 16610lv Posts: 1,829	dont do it, if you split the payment and only ship one watch, you're going to lose the other payment when they claim they didn't receive anything.

13 May 2010, 11:09 PM	#8
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	It sounds like a pile of to me. I am glad you did not proceed.....

14 May 2010, 12:11 AM	#9
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Two accounts to "split the charges".... what charges, he does not get charged! You do!

14 May 2010, 12:24 AM	#11
newmedia "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 526	Its a scam, if he really wants the watch , he could always transfer funds between two paypal accounts and send the money from one account.

14 May 2010, 12:27 AM	#12
JPersat "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Jarrett Location: San Antonio TX Watch: ing everybody Posts: 1,515	I would stay away from this...especially since he was the first to mention a scam. I would also have a Mod look into this guy since he is a member and see what kind of activity he is really into.

14 May 2010, 12:27 AM	#13
Too Old 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Brian Location: Bucks, UK Posts: 1,096	You can have more than one credit card on a single paypal account, why can't he put them both on the US account and do two transactions using a different card each time?

14 May 2010, 01:54 AM	#14
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	Playing devils advocate for a second.. If you transfer funds from one paypal account to another so to send in one go, he would have to pay fees. I like to use my paypal account because I sell on ebay and its easier to pay using that, than transfer money out to bank account and then transfer again. Personally I hate PayPal. There is no protection for purchases (outside ebay) and their fees are ridiculous, when there is a problem they never seem to give support to the seller, always seem to side with the purchaser. I agree with the people here though, if it smells fishy, then walk away. Its just not worth the risk. If you have a good rapport with the purchaser/seller then the method of payment can be discussed. All payment methods are subject to risks on both sides.. __________________ Rolex GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

14 May 2010, 02:02 AM	#15
inspires "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Hong Kong Watch: 1665 Posts: 1,495	I have two PayPal accounts, one that is Canadian (from before I relocated) and one is registered in Hong Kong. Both are verified to my home addresses and credit cards in each country. I have never tried paying for an item by splitting between the two accounts. Devil's advocate again - perhaps the buyer has PayPal funds he wants to get rid of in one account, which would not cover the cost of the entire transaction, and would top up the rest with the other account. Regardless, I think you can still accept payment from both accounts until you have the full payment, wait for all the funds to clear your 'bank account' and then ship out. __________________ _____________ All GREEN

14 May 2010, 03:39 AM	#16
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	I believe paypal & EBAY clearly advices NOT to accept split payments . No need to take the chance . I believe you we right to refuse

14 May 2010, 04:16 AM	#17
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	I would only accept paypal outside of eBay if I knew the person or some one I know knows the person well. ..... So, don't do it Nikos.

14 May 2010, 04:54 AM	#18
robertneville "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: PA Watch: me burn Posts: 1,435	nope, wouldnt do it. no reason he cant link the credit card from the one account to the other. i have had 2 paypal accounts (me and wife) before with the same cc info. __________________ Motocross is life!

14 May 2010, 05:01 AM	#19
Traveler Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 374	I would pass on this sale. If he can't wire transfer the money first - don't send him the watch. Too many legitimate buyers in the world to have to take a chance with this guy.

14 May 2010, 05:09 AM	#20
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	Run Forrest run ! __________________ ..33

16 May 2010, 01:49 AM	#22
JRA 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 187	Serious buyers buy seriously w/no BS I've never sold a watch on any forum (or at all for that matter as of yet...but who knows) but I've purchased plenty as a couple of respected forum sellers and sponsors can attest to, and in my experience if someone is serious about buying they will take serious steps to do so. I always pay with a wire - it costs as little as $25, it's fast and saves a lot of time and BS for all involved. If you're paying $3k, $5k $10k, etc. for a watch and you're worried about a few extra bucks then you should reconsider the purchase - there are plenty of buyers who provide easy, no BS conditions to purchase. You're better off just waiting for someone like that, wondering if they're going to love the watch you're selling them than wondering if you're about to get screwed!

16 May 2010, 03:16 AM	#23
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	Sounds like a scam. Anytime anything doesn't sound right, I "kill" the deal when I sell. Better safe than sorry. __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

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