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Ck8 · 28 June 2010, 04:24 AM

England. OK we were unlucky with the goal by Lampard but we were miles short of being world class. So much for the assumption that we were to go all the way before the tournament.
We all think we are the England manager but why why why we still play football down the wing and cross the ball. I was watching this when I was watching football in the 70's and we have not moved on. Germany took us apart with the one two's and through ball. All the great teams are playing this way now so why can't England.

Art 1 · 28 June 2010, 05:14 AM

You should unite and have a United Kingdom team.

daveathall · 28 June 2010, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ck8

England. OK we were unlucky with the goal by Lampard but we were miles short of being world class. So much for the assumption that we were to go all the way before the tournament.
We all think we are the England manager but why why why we still play football down the wing and cross the ball. I was watching this when I was watching football in the 70's and we have not moved on. Germany took us apart with the one two's and through ball. All the great teams are playing this way now so why can't England.

A shocking display, out classed and outplayed by the germans.

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Originally Posted by Art 1

You should unite and have a United Kingdom team.

No.

BASSETHOUNDS · 28 June 2010, 05:33 AM

Referees are sh.. this world cup . England was taken the equalizer away and only just now Argentina was allowed a goal that was the most flagrant off side I have seen for a long time .

JBat · 28 June 2010, 05:55 AM

That was a horrible call as was the missed offside on the first Argentinian goal. I've seen enough horrible officiating in this World Cup to seriously question why there isn't some sort of review process in place. I know the clock never stops in soccer, but how can egregious mistakes like this be allowed to stand?

Pep04 · 28 June 2010, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

Referees are sh.. this world cup . England was taken the equalizer away and only just now Argentina was allowed a goal that was the most flagrant off side I have seen for a long time .

I understand that Argentina has scored 2 more times. I also understand that these men are professionals and should perform to the best of their talents. But, I further understand, that if any of you have ever played competitive sports, you would understand that emotions have a lot to do with performance.

I played college baseball, not exactly professional, but when you get blatant calls that go totally against you...it really takes the wind out of your sails. The moral changes to "No matter how hard we try, these damn umps are giving every close call to the other team."

There is no coach that can have you think otherwise. In a sport, such as football, where you have but one referee, it becomes very difficult to keep your spirit up when the only referee is giving close calls to the other team. Then you have the England goal, this Argentina goal, the disgrace of the two US games... and it really begs to question how this sport can continue to flourish without the use of instant replay or at least a second referee. One for each side of the field.

Sorry for the rant, but I am very frustrated with my 2nd favorite sport of all time!!!!!

Safetrends · 28 June 2010, 06:07 AM

Maybe the UK fans need to be proding the team.

It works for us in the United States, when they start to screw up, we prod them back into line.

Johny · 28 June 2010, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Art 1

You should unite and have a United Kingdom team.

no chance...dont even go there.

JBat · 28 June 2010, 06:12 AM

Seeing as how critical the first goal is at this level of play, blowing an offside call like that is inexcusable. Clearly Argentina is a powerful side, but just giving them a goal like that is a joke.

esm · 28 June 2010, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Art 1

You should unite and have a United Kingdom team.

language/understanding would be one of the first problems....

the wife and i have been in Glasgow for 2 days... we are having cr@p loads of difficulities to understand the Scottish-English

daveathall · 28 June 2010, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Safetrends

Maybe the UK fans need to be proding the team.

There was no UK team at the world cup.

BASSETHOUNDS · 28 June 2010, 06:38 AM

Eric.. I can see you down the Gorbals in Glasgow ordering away in Cockney riming slag .

Uk team ?? Try to understand the Taffy's ? ..

esm · 28 June 2010, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

Eric.. I can see you down the Gorbals in Glasgow ordering away in Cockney riming slag .

Uk team ?? Try to understand the Taffy's ? ..

no idea what it is Tristan....

we were on the train coming back from Hapmden Park last night and there was an arguement between a husband and a wife... we could not understand what was said apart from the "F Off" words being exchanged a few times....

daveathall · 28 June 2010, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Art 1

You should unite and have a United Kingdom team.

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Originally Posted by daveathall

No.

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Originally Posted by Johny

no chance...dont even go there.

Its not often that Jocks and Yorkshiremen agree, we may have come up with something that cannot be explained.

Although we agree, it'll be for different reasons.

BASSETHOUNDS · 28 June 2010, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by esm

no idea what it is Tristan....

we were on the train coming back from Hapmden Park last night and there was an arguement between a husband and a wife... we could not understand what was said apart from the "F Off" words being exchanged a few times....

You mean there were actually other words the the F.. ones . That is unusual

Safetrends · 28 June 2010, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by daveathall

There was no UK team at the world cup.

Well, maybe they should have been proding them from the start.

Johny · 28 June 2010, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by daveathall

Its not often that Jocks and Yorkshiremen agree, we may have come up with something that cannot be explained.

Although we agree, it'll be for different reasons.

im Scottish not a jock.

Johny · 28 June 2010, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by esm

no idea what it is Tristan....

we were on the train coming back from Hapmden Park last night and there was an arguement between a husband and a wife... we could not understand what was said apart from the "F Off" words being exchanged a few times....

do you need to be rescued....hahaha

esm · 28 June 2010, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

You mean there were actually other words the the F.. ones . That is unusual

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Originally Posted by Johny

do you need to be rescued....hahaha

nah, we will be okay. will be travelling around Scotland for the next 3 days, im sure our ears should be tuned in by then....

BASSETHOUNDS · 28 June 2010, 07:07 AM

I like the Scottish ... They have "weee drumms" ..loads of them ! It does get harder when the haggis is served

Johny · 28 June 2010, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by esm

nah, we will be okay. will be travelling around Scotland for the next 3 days, im sure our ears should be tuned in by then....

are you sure cause my little sister isnt busy...hahaha. if youare going to be near hamilton let me know and we can meet up ..lunch whatever.

esm · 28 June 2010, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny

are you sure cause my little sister isnt busy...hahaha. if youare going to be near hamilton let me know and we can meet up ..lunch whatever.

Thanks John

that would be cool - maybe next time. but do let us know if you are in London next though

we will be going on a 3-day Skye tour tomorrow from Glasgow and onto the train to London as soon as we get back to Glasgow on Wednesday afternoon.

Johny · 28 June 2010, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

I like the Scottish ... They have "weee drumms" ..loads of them ! It does get harder when the haggis is served

where are you from tristan.

Johny · 28 June 2010, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by esm

Thanks John

that would be cool - maybe next time. but do let us know if you are in London next though

we will be going on a 3-day Skye tour tomorrow from Glasgow and onto the train to London as soon as we get back to Glasgow on Wednesday afternoon.

thats great i hope that you both have a great time while you are here. skye is lovely. j

daveathall · 28 June 2010, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny

im Scottish not a jock.

Really?

daveathall · 28 June 2010, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Safetrends

Well, maybe they should have been proding them from the start.

There is no UK football team.

Johny · 28 June 2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by daveathall

Really?

yes

Andad · 28 June 2010, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny

im Scottish not a jock.

Johny,

We are lucky that the Forum is in the written word. Can you imagine what it would be like if we had to understand the accents that the Yanks and the Poms have.

.....

Also not a Jock.

daveathall · 28 June 2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny

yes

Does the term "Jock" offend you? If so why?

I ask the question because I don't know the answer.

Having served a long time in the military I do know that Scottish soldiers are fiercely proud of being called Jocks, I am fiercely proud of knowing some and calling them my friends.

padi56 · 28 June 2010, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

Eric.. I can see you down the Gorbals in Glasgow ordering away in Cockney riming slag .

Uk team ?? Try to understand the Taffy's ? ..

Now Tristan nothing wrong with us Welsh guys and everyone I speak to over the radio can understand me perfectly.

I see Oxo have brought out a new beef stock cube with white foil and a red cross to celebrate the English team in the world cup, its now been renamed "laughing stock"

28 June 2010, 04:24 AM	#1
Ck8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Mark 哥 Location: UK Posts: 860	What a load of rubbish England. OK we were unlucky with the goal by Lampard but we were miles short of being world class. So much for the assumption that we were to go all the way before the tournament. We all think we are the England manager but why why why we still play football down the wing and cross the ball. I was watching this when I was watching football in the 70's and we have not moved on. Germany took us apart with the one two's and through ball. All the great teams are playing this way now so why can't England. __________________ I like wonton noodles soup - Mark 哥

28 June 2010, 05:14 AM	#2
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	You should unite and have a United Kingdom team.

28 June 2010, 05:33 AM	#4
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Referees are sh.. this world cup . England was taken the equalizer away and only just now Argentina was allowed a goal that was the most flagrant off side I have seen for a long time .

28 June 2010, 05:55 AM	#5
JBat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: Washington Watch: 16710, 16610, DJ Posts: 7,329	That was a horrible call as was the missed offside on the first Argentinian goal. I've seen enough horrible officiating in this World Cup to seriously question why there isn't some sort of review process in place. I know the clock never stops in soccer, but how can egregious mistakes like this be allowed to stand?

28 June 2010, 06:07 AM	#7
Safetrends Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: David Walz Location: San Diego CA USA Watch: my hand. :) Posts: 9,156	Maybe the UK fans need to be proding the team. It works for us in the United States, when they start to screw up, we prod them back into line.

28 June 2010, 06:12 AM	#9
JBat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: Washington Watch: 16710, 16610, DJ Posts: 7,329	Seeing as how critical the first goal is at this level of play, blowing an offside call like that is inexcusable. Clearly Argentina is a powerful side, but just giving them a goal like that is a joke.

28 June 2010, 06:38 AM	#12
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Eric.. I can see you down the Gorbals in Glasgow ordering away in Cockney riming slag . Uk team ?? Try to understand the Taffy's ? ..

28 June 2010, 07:07 AM	#20
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	I like the Scottish ... They have "weee drumms" ..loads of them ! It does get harder when the haggis is served

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