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Old 19 February 2007, 03:50 AM   #1
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Whats the right thing to do?

Here's a moral one for you guys. Just after I obtained my DJ a little over a year ago, I was at a SWAT training day and one of the guys mentioned I had purchased a Rolex. The comander of the other team walked over and showed me his. It was an obvious fake Day Date, and the "Gold" was wearing off. The guy told me one of his former officers had purchased it and given it to him for his 20th year of service. The man told me he'd never be able to afford something this nice, and said he couldn't believe one of his men thought so highly of him to buy him one.

What would you do? Take him aside and let him know it was not real so he didn't embarass himself infront of his wife and kids some day when he is told by less tactful people, or just let it be?

I simply complimented him on his watch and the sentiment behind the gift, because it don't think the dollar ammount of the purchase diminshed that one bit.
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Old 19 February 2007, 03:52 AM   #2
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Tell him nicely before a snotty jeweler does.
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Old 19 February 2007, 03:58 AM   #3
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Maybe his men hated him and this was they way that they give him one last punch that has a very long fuse.

Take him to a jewelers and show him their Rolexes. Have him examine the weight, attention to detail, and craftsmanship. He doesn't sound like a dummy, he will catch on. If not, ask the AD if there are fake Rolexes out there and if so, who would fake it and what to look for.

Then again maybe he knows it is fake and it having a little fun with you. Now he goes home and laughs at you worrying for him.

Lastly, you can always say that you feel his watch may possibly not be genuine but rather a very very good copy. Ask him to review the watch's papers to verify its lineage, and explain how all Rolexes have papers.
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Old 19 February 2007, 04:46 AM   #4
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Maybe his men hated him and this was they way that they give him one last punch that has a very long fuse.

Take him to a jewelers and show him their Rolexes. Have him examine the weight, attention to detail, and craftsmanship. He doesn't sound like a dummy, he will catch on. If not, ask the AD if there are fake Rolexes out there and if so, who would fake it and what to look for.

Then again maybe he knows it is fake and it having a little fun with you. Now he goes home and laughs at you worrying for him.

Lastly, you can always say that you feel his watch may possibly not be genuine but rather a very very good copy. Ask him to review the watch's papers to verify its lineage, and explain how all Rolexes have papers.
Very good idea! Poor guy, I hope he DOES know.
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Old 19 February 2007, 04:50 AM   #5
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Here's a moral one for you guys. Just after I obtained my DJ a little over a year ago, I was at a SWAT training day and one of the guys mentioned I had purchased a Rolex. The comander of the other team walked over and showed me his. It was an obvious fake Day Date, and the "Gold" was wearing off. The guy told me one of his former officers had purchased it and given it to him for his 20th year of service. The man told me he'd never be able to afford something this nice, and said he couldn't believe one of his men thought so highly of him to buy him one.

What would you do? Take him aside and let him know it was not real so he didn't embarass himself infront of his wife and kids some day when he is told by less tactful people, or just let it be?

I simply complimented him on his watch and the sentiment behind the gift, because it don't think the dollar ammount of the purchase diminshed that one bit.

You do have a bit of a dilemma there, my friend. I honestly wouldn't know what to do in such a case. Tough one, pal.....sorry, really don't even know how to help you out.

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Old 19 February 2007, 04:55 AM   #6
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I'd consider tactfully telling him that you're into watches and that you think there's a chance the guy that bought it for him was "ripped off with a fake" so he may want to take it to an AD to have it checked. Tell him that it's really easy nowadays to get faked...maybe that way it looks more like the guy wasn't trying to pull one over on him and it opens the door for him to have something done.
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Old 19 February 2007, 04:55 AM   #7
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I don't know if I'd get that 'involved'. Perhaps you should suggest he get it appraised for insurance purposes. After that, just sit back and let the chips fall where they may...
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Old 19 February 2007, 04:56 AM   #8
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...I simply complimented him on his watch and the sentiment behind the gift, because I don't think the dollar ammount of the purchase diminshed that one bit.
You did the right thing.
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Old 19 February 2007, 04:58 AM   #9
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You did the right thing.
What would YOU have done, tosser?
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Old 19 February 2007, 05:01 AM   #10
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What would YOU have done, tosser?
The same thing he did. The commander was obviously proud and thankful for the gift, and dashing that joy would be counter-productive. A sad state of affairs, granted. But there is a time to speak up and a time to keep quiet. This was one!
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Old 19 February 2007, 05:03 AM   #11
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Dont spoil it for him....leave it be.
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Old 19 February 2007, 05:06 AM   #12
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He'll find out one day though.
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Old 19 February 2007, 05:08 AM   #13
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He'll find out one day though.
Perhaps. That time was not at hand in the scenario posted by High-Gear.
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Old 19 February 2007, 05:24 AM   #14
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What would you do? Take him aside and let him know it was not real so he didn't embarass himself infront of his wife and kids some day when he is told by less tactful people, or just let it be?
I think you did the right thing! - it's really not that rare that the messenger gets shot
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Old 19 February 2007, 05:40 AM   #15
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It totally depends on the type of man you are dealing with.

I'd say nowt.
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Old 19 February 2007, 06:19 AM   #16
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Dont spoil it for him....leave it be.
No one likes the messenger... yeah I'd just turn a blind eye to it. When I do encounter people wearing fakes in my life, I pay them as little mind as possible.

Now. I can see where you might be conflicted had this man been in yoru company or a close friend of yours. Since he is neither, then there's no need for you to be part of something that can end in hurt feelings and the like.

That watch was part of an A - B exchange. C your way out of it.
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Old 19 February 2007, 06:51 AM   #17
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A good idea would be to sell it back to some of those scammer bastids on e-bay!!
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Old 19 February 2007, 07:15 AM   #18
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A good idea would be to sell it back to some of those scammer bastids on e-bay!!
Nope. I don't want that crap on eBay at all...
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Old 19 February 2007, 07:20 AM   #19
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You did the right thing. Keep schtum is the best policy: no need to rub it in to him that his watch is a fake..
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Old 19 February 2007, 07:25 AM   #20
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I would not tell him anything. I am sorta embarassed to even talk watches. If someone cared to even recognize my Rolex then I would comment, but I share my Rolex thoughts only here. The fact it was a gift and 20th anniversary was something special. I mean he could have recieved a DVD player or gold plated dog tag or something which still would have been special, but the watch meant alot more than it being genuine.
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Old 19 February 2007, 07:27 AM   #21
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...but the watch meant alot more than it being genuine.
That, I believe, is the crux of the matter.
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Old 19 February 2007, 07:49 AM   #22
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Myself being hardcore, I would not say a thing. Let him find out on his own. He may think that you were trying to make a point that your Rolex is real and his is not. This could cause political issues in the future, so let it be. He will find out when the battery needs to be replaced or heaven forbid he sends the folex to a service center.

I had a sergeant who wore the most obvious fake Rolex I have ever seen, the dial was orange, the movement was quartz, the diamonds on the dial were horrible, and the bracelet was so bad you could see the spacing between the links. I never said a word, a year later the watch broke and it was never seen again. I figure why rain on the guy’s parade. My two cents worth.
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Old 19 February 2007, 07:53 AM   #23
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Myself being hardcore, I would not say a thing. Let him find out on his own. He may think that you were trying to make a point that your Rolex is real and his is not. This could cause political issues in the future, so let it be. He will find out when the battery needs to be replaced or heaven forbid he sends the folex to a service center.

I had a sergeant who wore the most obvious fake Rolex I have ever seen, the dial was orange, the movement was quartz, the diamonds on the dial were horrible, and the bracelet was so bad you could see the spacing between the links. I never said a word, a year later the watch broke and it was never seen again. I figure why rain on the guy’s parade. My two cents worth.
Well said, Rich....I think I'll endorse that!!
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Old 19 February 2007, 08:34 AM   #24
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I wouldn't say anything either. It's not your problem.

It'll be a bummer though if he does go to an AD with it for some work. My understanding is that Rolex tell's their AD's that should a fake come in, they are to confiscate it immediately!

If the gold is flaking, it's so obvious that the AD won't even have to pull the watch apart to know it's a counterfeit.

By the way, was the watch battery powered?????????

You could have simply said something like "I've never heard of a battery-powered Rolex before" and left it at that.
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Old 19 February 2007, 09:20 AM   #25
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I'd do what you did. Compliment him on the watch as a gift.

I'm sure one day he'll find out. It doesn't have to be today and it doesn't have to be for you.

Are you doing him or yourself any good breaking the news to him? I don't see where or how.
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now of course... what if his former officer got scammed or something? or worst yet, what if he was gifted a genuine presidential and someone near and dear to his heart switched watches on him?

yeah it's best that you handled it as diplomatically as you did (and reserved your opinion for your family here at the forum).
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Old 19 February 2007, 10:12 AM   #27
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now of course... what if his former officer got scammed or something?
I liked what you typed out before the quick edit, you tosser!!

You could probably set a thief to catch a thief!!
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Old 19 February 2007, 10:13 AM   #28
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now of course... what if his former officer got scammed or something? or worst yet, what if he was gifted a genuine presidential and someone near and dear to his heart switched watches on him?

people steal from family...

yeah it's best that you didn't callhim out on the watch.
Set a thief to catch a thief, uh?
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i sometimes type something and the computer seizes... and i have to retype 'em.

you got it,JJ.
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