Rolex in Vaults messes the movement?

[rajurama]

Hello there...
I was with my watch dealer friend and were discussing watches and he pointed out to me, that watches kept in those ultra heavy duty vaults (not the one usually found in homes but jewellery stores etc) for prolonged periods do mess up their calibration.

I didnt really understand the logic and cause as it sure cant get magnetised sitting idle in the vault or can it???

Surely the blue parachrom should be immune to this phenomena??? Any Nuclear Physicist onboard???

[Jackxv]

Tell him to leave the waterpipe and hasjiesh alone....

Only problem I can thnink of is the movement not having in a winder and not running for 5 years+ and then in need of a service.


Jack

[mike]

Originally Posted by Jackxv

Tell him to leave the waterpipe and hasjiesh alone....

Only problem I can thnink of is the movement not having in a winder and not running for 5 years+ and then in need of a service.


Jack

[Rolesor]

I assume he just means a lack of movement in the movement?

[Tools]

It doesn't matter if the hairspring is Parachrom or Nivarox, those are lifetime parts that almost never fail......

Your Dealer friend is full of beans, although it is possible that, in some cases, the oils may pool around the pivots causing some initial drag when they are first started.. However, after a couple of hours of running, the oils will have re-distributed themselves back where they belong...

[tomchicago]

my gmt runs better after 5y service than the day i got it from AD

[rajurama]

Originally Posted by Jackxv

Tell him to leave the waterpipe and hasjiesh alone....

Only problem I can thnink of is the movement not having in a winder and not running for 5 years+ and then in need of a service.


Jack

Originally Posted by Tools

It doesn't matter if the hairspring is Parachrom or Nivarox, those are lifetime parts that almost never fail......

Your Dealer friend is full of beans, although it is possible that, in some cases, the oils may pool around the pivots causing some initial drag when they are first started.. However, after a couple of hours of running, the oils will have re-distributed themselves back where they belong...

thanks larry...

i was just thinking maybe its the pressure or too many watches kept together... oh well

[tulsaokusa]

That's like saying a Porsche will have difficulty starting if left in a garage for a prolonged period of time.

Maybe if you lose the key.

And the key for a Rolex is wearing it.

:-)

[ParisDakarBmw]

As long as it's sealed, the external pressure of the air around the Rolex shouldn't do anything to it. It's a climate controlled environment, and wouldn't do any harm.

It prpbably drives him crazy to imagine being in a silent safe for 5 years. The AD just wants the watches to be FREE!

[theloxmyth]

Originally Posted by rajurama

Hello there...
I was with my watch dealer friend and were discussing watches and he pointed out to me, that watches kept in those ultra heavy duty vaults (not the one usually found in homes but jewellery stores etc) for prolonged periods do mess up their calibration.

I didnt really understand the logic and cause as it sure cant get magnetised sitting idle in the vault or can it???

Surely the blue parachrom should be immune to this phenomena??? Any Nuclear Physicist onboard???

As a semi-professional safe-tech (just ask...oh, never mind) I imagine that the fellow is speaking of the build up of moisture in the container.

IF you keep the container closed for an extended period, you'd do well to have a 'GoldenRod' or other desiccant type unit to keep the humidity level down.

Keeping the crown screwed down might alleviate this altogether!

[JUSTROLEXES]

Hah hah...I guess your friend wants to get to your watches and that is why he doesn't want them in the Safe
for as long as i have been a watch dealer I have been keeping my watches in the Safe and they still smile at me every morning when I open to check on them

[josh12730]

That's a weird conclusion to draw. I would imagine somewhere there is a vault with thousands and thousands of dollars worth of watches that are being stored and still mechanically sound regardless of being in a vault.

[tulsaokusa]

I keep my great-grandfather's gold watch in a vault that has a 50 ton door.

Some consider this vault the most secure vault in the midwest, as it was built with no budget - when Tulsa was the Oil Capitol of the World.

It has remained 100% safe in a vault within a vault within a vault.

Tell my story to your friend.

:-)

[tulsaokusa]

FYI, My watch has been stored in this vault for over three years now.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by rajurama

Hello there...
I was with my watch dealer friend and were discussing watches and he pointed out to me, that watches kept in those ultra heavy duty vaults (not the one usually found in homes but jewellery stores etc) for prolonged periods do mess up their calibration.

I didnt really understand the logic and cause as it sure cant get magnetised sitting idle in the vault or can it???

Surely the blue parachrom should be immune to this phenomena??? Any Nuclear Physicist onboard???

Quite a few years ago now I bought several Rolex Tudors from a guy in Germany,now these were from a huge collection all from the 1960s early 1970s.All were BNIB never been worn boxes tags papers etc,and as far as I know not even wound since bought new, but I tried them all before buying.Now I sold most but kept a few and one lady Tudor for the wife.Now this watch was from late 1969 early 1970s and sat in its box for over 30 years.But all I did was give it a full wind and it started straight away and keeping excellent time.But after a month I gave it to my watchmaker friend to give it a service and check over.He remarked there was still oil on the vital parts and movement was still in a as new condition but he did give just a oil and seal service that was around 8 to 9 years ago.Now wife wears this watch daily and it still keeps remarkable time for a old timer,but now not quite in such a mint condition but due for a service soon.So today with the modern synthetic oils used ,cannot see any problem if a watch is stored 5-10 years or even longer.

[RRGHOST1]

My Pepsi GMT i bought in March was 6 years old, and was BNIB, and still had all the stickers on. I questioned at the time if it needed a service, or was it keeping good time,as i presumed it had been stored somewhere,maybe in a safe. It keeps excellent time even after all the years stored.

[rajurama]

Originally Posted by theloxmyth

As a semi-professional safe-tech (just ask...oh, never mind) I imagine that the fellow is speaking of the build up of moisture in the container.

IF you keep the container closed for an extended period, you'd do well to have a 'GoldenRod' or other desiccant type unit to keep the humidity level down.

Keeping the crown screwed down might alleviate this altogether!

Originally Posted by jasonsundberg

I keep my great-grandfather's gold watch in a vault that has a 50 ton door.

Some consider this vault the most secure vault in the midwest, as it was built with no budget - when Tulsa was the Oil Capitol of the World.

It has remained 100% safe in a vault within a vault within a vault.

Tell my story to your friend.

:-)

Originally Posted by padi56

Quite a few years ago now I bought several Rolex Tudors from a guy in Germany,now these were from a huge collection all from the 1960s early 1970s.All were BNIB never been worn boxes tags papers etc,and as far as I know not even wound since bought new, but I tried them all before buying.Now I sold most but kept a few and one lady Tudor for the wife.Now this watch was from late 1969 early 1970s and sat in its box for over 30 years.But all I did was give it a full wind and it started straight away and keeping excellent time.But after a month I gave it to my watchmaker friend to give it a service and check over.He remarked there was still oil on the vital parts and movement was still in a as new condition but he did give just a oil and seal service that was around 8 to 9 years ago.Now wife wears this watch daily and it still keeps remarkable time for a old timer,but now not quite in such a mint condition but due for a service soon.So today with the modern synthetic oils used ,cannot see any problem if a watch is stored 5-10 years or even longer.

Thanks for the feedback and great stories guys!!!