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bayerische · 2 October 2010, 05:35 AM

OK, a bit of a heads up here on TRF...

This DSSD's ring looks on some of the pics to have a engraved ring lock system ring. Should be printed.

Look at the pics in the ad and the ones on his link to a picture gallery...

I'm not 100% sure, but looks strange to me?

Link:

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=146076

train-time · 2 October 2010, 06:19 AM

Definately looks engraved (not printed) by the reflection on the inner ring

Not sure what to make of it; hopefully some of the DSSD experts will look it over.

bayerische · 2 October 2010, 06:27 AM

Just looked on my own Deepsea, and it looks nothing like that. How ever I turned the watch around under a bright light, I couldn't get the printed text to look anything like the one above... I'm guessing it's actually engraved and thus, fake.

TattooedGQ · 2 October 2010, 06:29 AM

Ring looks off from what I've seen. I don't have a DSSD but doesnt the coronet on the dial look off?? I'm looking at my millie right now, and the points of the crown aren't at such a steep angle, they're in a flatter line.
also the 0 in the date's 30 looks poorly printed.

Ebruner · 2 October 2010, 06:52 AM

I see what you guys are saying, but in his photo gallery there are many shots at a steep angle and there is ZERO distortion through the crystal. All the fakes shown so fare have pretty bad edge distortion through the domed crystal.

I hope we do not have a new generation of fake DSSD around.

-Eddie

TattooedGQ · 2 October 2010, 07:10 AM

Sad thing is, the fakes always keep getting better and better. Hell, they all but mastered the 16610.

bayerische · 2 October 2010, 07:13 AM

Eddie, if this is a fake, it's definitely a "new edition" of DSSD fakes...

The chinese text on one of the instruction manuals, does that look legit?

The minute lines in the bezel are IMO too thick. Looks much thinner on my watch, especially the ones from 0 - 15min.

When comparing this to my AD bought DSSD, I'm seeing small, but present details that is wrong with it.

machxpert · 2 October 2010, 03:25 PM

Hi Folks,

The picture looks awfully familiar... I believe it is mine. Chinese characters on the booklet..etc..

It was purchased at Shilla 5 star hotel Duty-Free in Asia... Experts, please verify. If more pics are needed let me know. Plus, I found a listing on ebay who is using my photos. That is not me.(I do not use EBAY for SALES).

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Rolex-Deep-S...ht_1061wt_1006

I just want to clear things up in the open.

Photos were taken using a Canon 7D with 100mm macro.

I would truly appreciate your expertise in advance to clear up on this DSSD.

Scott

machxpert · 2 October 2010, 04:49 PM

Folks, I've taken more photos with my 7D of the DSSD concerned. Under certain conditions, with the flash on, it looks like it is engraved for sure. But without flash, it looks fine printed... I've taken photos of the instruction booklet which is in Japanese. It is given out to all models of Rolexes so it is not DSSD specific (this booklet).

Guys, I am more than confident that this is legit. I have never heard of Shilla Hotel performing such mal-practices (hard to imagine). I understand I am new here, and thus, standing here without much credibility. I hate to be doubted against my DSSD that is totally genuine.... But I do understand that for the safety of TRF and acts against fakes, I will do my best here to blast any doubts away, and I will be open to your claims or inputs.

http://gallery.me.com/machxpert/100177

Thanks in advance,
Scott

Rolexbroker · 2 October 2010, 05:36 PM

Impressive fake if it is one . Pictures are pictures and can distort the image by changing light and angles .
What personally bothers me is the warranty card :
We see in a picture the card wrapped in a blister , which I have never seen with originals .
But it is also on the same back ground unwrapped with the date ? Surely they do not come date stamped from the factory .. so the date would have been put on during the photo session ?

Sorry for the edit : needed to figure out how to upload att.

mcjp6 · 2 October 2010, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machxpert

Guys, I am more than confident that this is legit.

Thats a statement I cannot argue with. Thanks.

machxpert · 2 October 2010, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcjp6

Thats a statement I cannot argue with. Thanks.

Thanks

Kinda sad I'm posting mostly here on this WatchOut!!! forum

mcjp6 · 2 October 2010, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machxpert

Kinda sad I'm posting mostly here on this WatchOut!!!

Agreed, its sad anyone has to post in the WatchOut forum......

bayerische · 2 October 2010, 09:28 PM

After you posted more images, it does look OK to me as well. Sorry for the trouble. The "engraved" look set My alarmbells off. With a strong LED light I was able to get the same effect you had. Seems like the text is à bit engraved on originals too!

machxpert · 2 October 2010, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayerische

After you posted more images, it does look OK to me as well. Sorry for the trouble. The "engraved" look set My alarmbells off. With a strong LED light I was able to get the same effect you had. Seems like the text is à bit engraved on originals too!

No worries

Thanks for your input

2 October 2010, 05:35 AM	#1
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	DSSD on TRF... OK, a bit of a heads up here on TRF... This DSSD's ring looks on some of the pics to have a engraved ring lock system ring. Should be printed. Look at the pics in the ad and the ones on his link to a picture gallery... I'm not 100% sure, but looks strange to me? Link: http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=146076 __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

2 October 2010, 06:19 AM	#2
train-time 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Plankton Location: US Watch: less Posts: 4,161	Definately looks engraved (not printed) by the reflection on the inner ring Not sure what to make of it; hopefully some of the DSSD experts will look it over. Attached Images

2 October 2010, 06:27 AM	#3
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Just looked on my own Deepsea, and it looks nothing like that. How ever I turned the watch around under a bright light, I couldn't get the printed text to look anything like the one above... I'm guessing it's actually engraved and thus, fake. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

2 October 2010, 06:29 AM	#4
TattooedGQ "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Justin Location: NY, USA Watch: yo self! Posts: 2,686	Ring looks off from what I've seen. I don't have a DSSD but doesnt the coronet on the dial look off?? I'm looking at my millie right now, and the points of the crown aren't at such a steep angle, they're in a flatter line. also the 0 in the date's 30 looks poorly printed. __________________ That boy's got the Devil in him. Rolex: I think I'm up to 9?? Omega: Got a few of those too. Breitling: And some of these.

2 October 2010, 06:52 AM	#5
Ebruner "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Eddie Location: Kentucky Watch: 118208 Posts: 2,510	I see what you guys are saying, but in his photo gallery there are many shots at a steep angle and there is ZERO distortion through the crystal. All the fakes shown so fare have pretty bad edge distortion through the domed crystal. I hope we do not have a new generation of fake DSSD around. -Eddie __________________

2 October 2010, 07:10 AM	#6
TattooedGQ "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Justin Location: NY, USA Watch: yo self! Posts: 2,686	Sad thing is, the fakes always keep getting better and better. Hell, they all but mastered the 16610. __________________ That boy's got the Devil in him. Rolex: I think I'm up to 9?? Omega: Got a few of those too. Breitling: And some of these.

2 October 2010, 07:13 AM	#7
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Eddie, if this is a fake, it's definitely a "new edition" of DSSD fakes... The chinese text on one of the instruction manuals, does that look legit? The minute lines in the bezel are IMO too thick. Looks much thinner on my watch, especially the ones from 0 - 15min. When comparing this to my AD bought DSSD, I'm seeing small, but present details that is wrong with it. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man. Last edited by bayerische; 2 October 2010 at 07:16 AM.. Reason: typo

2 October 2010, 03:25 PM	#8
machxpert "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Scott Location: Tokyo/NorCal Watch: All Posts: 47	Hi Folks, The picture looks awfully familiar... I believe it is mine. Chinese characters on the booklet..etc.. It was purchased at Shilla 5 star hotel Duty-Free in Asia... Experts, please verify. If more pics are needed let me know. Plus, I found a listing on ebay who is using my photos. That is not me.(I do not use EBAY for SALES). http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Rolex-Deep-S...ht_1061wt_1006 I just want to clear things up in the open. Photos were taken using a Canon 7D with 100mm macro. I would truly appreciate your expertise in advance to clear up on this DSSD. Scott Last edited by machxpert; 2 October 2010 at 03:51 PM.. Reason: typo

2 October 2010, 04:49 PM	#9
machxpert "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Scott Location: Tokyo/NorCal Watch: All Posts: 47	Folks, I've taken more photos with my 7D of the DSSD concerned. Under certain conditions, with the flash on, it looks like it is engraved for sure. But without flash, it looks fine printed... I've taken photos of the instruction booklet which is in Japanese. It is given out to all models of Rolexes so it is not DSSD specific (this booklet). Guys, I am more than confident that this is legit. I have never heard of Shilla Hotel performing such mal-practices (hard to imagine). I understand I am new here, and thus, standing here without much credibility. I hate to be doubted against my DSSD that is totally genuine.... But I do understand that for the safety of TRF and acts against fakes, I will do my best here to blast any doubts away, and I will be open to your claims or inputs. http://gallery.me.com/machxpert/100177 Thanks in advance, Scott Last edited by machxpert; 2 October 2010 at 04:50 PM.. Reason: typo

2 October 2010, 05:36 PM	#10
Rolexbroker Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Thomas Location: Quebec Watch: Rolex Posts: 25	Impressive fake if it is one . Pictures are pictures and can distort the image by changing light and angles . What personally bothers me is the warranty card : We see in a picture the card wrapped in a blister , which I have never seen with originals . But it is also on the same back ground unwrapped with the date ? Surely they do not come date stamped from the factory .. so the date would have been put on during the photo session ? Sorry for the edit : needed to figure out how to upload att. Attached Images

2 October 2010, 09:28 PM	#14
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	After you posted more images, it does look OK to me as well. Sorry for the trouble. The "engraved" look set My alarmbells off. With a strong LED light I was able to get the same effect you had. Seems like the text is à bit engraved on originals too! __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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