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pablofields · 2 November 2010, 02:38 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Explorer-I...ht_1872wt_1077

Dial seems questionable. Coronet is of the later rounded top style rather than pointy style in Mk 1-3, yet marked "T Swiss T" at base. Also the "T"'s appear inside minute mark rather than just outside. Finally the position of " L "in Rolex seems off.

Well known seller so other opinions would be helpful.

blaine mattison · 2 November 2010, 04:42 PM

pablo, i think your dead on! the t's look to be inside. a 7mill without a t<25??

that cornet matches nothing for a T SWISS T

happy hunting!

mcjp6 · 2 November 2010, 07:39 PM

seller demesyfinewatches

Something does not seem right with this listing, but I am not sure of any possible dial variations at this time.

Below is a known good example of a 7M for comparison (not my picture), and its the only variation I can find for around this period. Anyone??

pablofields · 3 November 2010, 02:35 AM

...don't think it matches any of them for reasons stated in OP

springer · 3 November 2010, 09:46 AM

We have a winner gentlemen. The dial is not genuine. Great posts.

mcjp6 · 3 November 2010, 01:43 PM

The thing is, Demesey probably do not even know they have a Rolex with a counterfeit dial, and they are not going to want to ditch a listing for a $13k watch.

With the feedback that Demesey have its not going to be easy having their listing pulled given the quality of the fake. We can but try.

onkyo · 3 November 2010, 01:52 PM

Great catch Pablo.... no doubt in my mind either - that is not an original dial.

Lol-x · 3 November 2010, 01:54 PM

Winner winner chicken dinner!!!

tudorman8276 · 4 November 2010, 05:05 AM

2 November 2010, 02:38 PM	#1
pablofields "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: SF East Bay Posts: 585	1655 on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Explorer-I...ht_1872wt_1077 Dial seems questionable. Coronet is of the later rounded top style rather than pointy style in Mk 1-3, yet marked "T Swiss T" at base. Also the "T"'s appear inside minute mark rather than just outside. Finally the position of " L "in Rolex seems off. Well known seller so other opinions would be helpful.

2 November 2010, 07:39 PM	#3
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	seller demesyfinewatches Something does not seem right with this listing, but I am not sure of any possible dial variations at this time. Below is a known good example of a 7M for comparison (not my picture), and its the only variation I can find for around this period. Anyone?? Attached Images

3 November 2010, 02:35 AM	#4
pablofields "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: SF East Bay Posts: 585	Dial variations from Stefano's blog ...don't think it matches any of them for reasons stated in OP Attached Images

3 November 2010, 09:46 AM	#5
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	We have a winner gentlemen. The dial is not genuine. Great posts. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

3 November 2010, 01:54 PM	#8
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,588	Winner winner chicken dinner!!! __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

2 November 2010, 04:42 PM	#2
blaine mattison "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: blaine Location: memphis Watch: my next find Posts: 1,060	pablo, i think your dead on! the t's look to be inside. a 7mill without a t<25?? that cornet matches nothing for a T SWISS T happy hunting!

3 November 2010, 01:43 PM	#6
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	The thing is, Demesey probably do not even know they have a Rolex with a counterfeit dial, and they are not going to want to ditch a listing for a $13k watch. With the feedback that Demesey have its not going to be easy having their listing pulled given the quality of the fake. We can but try.

3 November 2010, 01:52 PM	#7
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Great catch Pablo.... no doubt in my mind either - that is not an original dial.

4 November 2010, 05:05 AM	#9
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...can I play...

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