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Casey VP-26 · 6 November 2010, 10:59 PM

While surfing on the Timezone forum, I came across an interesting tread, dating Nov.02,2010, where James Dowling responded and one of his sentences was. Quote: The GMT has always outsold the Sub by a considerable margin,even though most watchnuts consider the Sub the more iconic watch. Unquote. The fact that the GMT has always outsold the Sub surprises me, then you add the words by a considerable margin,Wow,I would have thought it would have been the other way around. Anyone else Surprised? Regards Casey

SaddleSC · 6 November 2010, 11:05 PM

Not too surprised. I think we certainly get a slanted view of reality by being members of TRF. The general consensus of the forum represents only the most hard-core WIS and most likely 1% or less of the general Rolex buying public.

If you simply compare the feature set of both watches...most casual buyers are probably far more likely to travel and require a second time zone than to dive below the 330ft threshold that the GMT offers.

mike · 6 November 2010, 11:09 PM

I feel vindicated!!

faingator · 6 November 2010, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mike

I feel vindicated!!

WOW! WOW! Awesome collection of GMT's..

HL65 · 7 November 2010, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mike

I feel vindicated!!

Sweet collection Mike!! I am split between both--2 of each!!

Casey VP-26 · 7 November 2010, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mike

I feel vindicated!!

WOW!!!!! Perfect Response

DWdrummer · 7 November 2010, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mike

I feel vindicated!!

Absolutely amazing collection. I do believe every reference since the inception of the GMT is represented there!

Wear them all in good health!

faingator · 6 November 2010, 11:11 PM

not surprising to me. When I began buying Rolex a few years back, I picked the 16710 GMT-II Pepsi over the 16610 sub. Overtime, I've grown to love the 16610 but still prefer the GMT-II Pepsi.

godspeed1208 · 6 November 2010, 11:58 PM

wow cool looking rolex collection set...

Alessi156 · 6 November 2010, 11:59 PM

I'm not surprised either to hear that the GMT outsells the Sub. Even anecdotally, I have seen far more GMTs in the wild than Subs. I guess it is a bit surprising that it is by a "considerable" margin, especially for sales in the few years prior to the release of the GMT-c.

Dan2010 · 7 November 2010, 12:29 AM

Interesting.....................

dsio · 7 November 2010, 01:50 AM

Damn vindication looks expensive!

I'll have to settle for moderate contentment.

Dan Pierce · 7 November 2010, 01:57 AM

GMT = versatility and functionality.

dP

turbodiver · 7 November 2010, 07:06 AM

Mike, thanks for sharing your fantastic collection of GMT's.
Do you have a favorite for daily use?
And if so..... Why?

springer · 7 November 2010, 07:57 AM

Mike, I'm with you.

Grissom · 7 November 2010, 08:07 AM

Would the general consensus be that this phenomena would also be reflected in pricing on the secondary market? And if so, would the more highly "wanted" GMTs sell for more because of increased demand, or would the less "wanted" Subs sell for more due to reduced availability, due to lower "new" sales?

Really nice collection!!! And a great reference tool, as well.

Thank you for sharing!

tictocChuck · 7 November 2010, 09:00 AM

Nice GMT collections! Someday I would like to have the famous "Pepsi" model on my wrist. The ratio of sales between the SUB and GMT are interesting facts. Cheers

6 November 2010, 10:59 PM	#1
Casey VP-26 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: America Posts: 2,721	Surprised Me.....Sub or GMT Sales While surfing on the Timezone forum, I came across an interesting tread, dating Nov.02,2010, where James Dowling responded and one of his sentences was. Quote: The GMT has always outsold the Sub by a considerable margin,even though most watchnuts consider the Sub the more iconic watch. Unquote. The fact that the GMT has always outsold the Sub surprises me, then you add the words by a considerable margin,Wow,I would have thought it would have been the other way around. Anyone else Surprised? Regards Casey

6 November 2010, 11:05 PM	#2
SaddleSC "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Charles B Location: GMT -7 Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 6,131	Not too surprised. I think we certainly get a slanted view of reality by being members of TRF. The general consensus of the forum represents only the most hard-core WIS and most likely 1% or less of the general Rolex buying public. If you simply compare the feature set of both watches...most casual buyers are probably far more likely to travel and require a second time zone than to dive below the 330ft threshold that the GMT offers. __________________ Hulk 116610LV + GMT II 126710 BLNR + Explorer 124270 + Air King 126900 + Submariner 16613LB

6 November 2010, 11:11 PM	#8
faingator "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Fort Myers, FL Watch: Rolex Deepsea Posts: 8,726	not surprising to me. When I began buying Rolex a few years back, I picked the 16710 GMT-II Pepsi over the 16610 sub. Overtime, I've grown to love the 16610 but still prefer the GMT-II Pepsi. __________________ Rolex SS Blk Sub-C V-Series Rolex TT Blk Sub-C V-Series Rolex Sub 14060M V-Series Rolex Explorer II White V-Series Rolex Yachtmaster SS M-Series

7 November 2010, 01:57 AM	#13
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,216	GMT = versatility and functionality. dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

7 November 2010, 07:57 AM	#15
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	Mike, I'm with you. Attached Images __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

6 November 2010, 11:09 PM	#3
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	I feel vindicated!!

6 November 2010, 11:58 PM	#9
godspeed1208 Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: singapore Posts: 18	wow cool looking rolex collection set...

6 November 2010, 11:59 PM	#10
Alessi156 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Los/Lon Posts: 116	I'm not surprised either to hear that the GMT outsells the Sub. Even anecdotally, I have seen far more GMTs in the wild than Subs. I guess it is a bit surprising that it is by a "considerable" margin, especially for sales in the few years prior to the release of the GMT-c.

7 November 2010, 12:29 AM	#11
Dan2010 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Carolina Watch: Panerai 914 Posts: 6,540	Interesting.....................

7 November 2010, 01:50 AM	#12
dsio "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Ashley Location: Brisbane Watch: Rolex Sub 1680 '79 Posts: 2,301	Damn vindication looks expensive! I'll have to settle for moderate contentment.

7 November 2010, 07:06 AM	#14
turbodiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Cary Location: South Florida Posts: 129	Mike, thanks for sharing your fantastic collection of GMT's. Do you have a favorite for daily use? And if so..... Why?

7 November 2010, 08:07 AM	#16
Grissom "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Nathan Location: US, Latin America Watch: GMT IIc 18K/SS Posts: 3,349	Would the general consensus be that this phenomena would also be reflected in pricing on the secondary market? And if so, would the more highly "wanted" GMTs sell for more because of increased demand, or would the less "wanted" Subs sell for more due to reduced availability, due to lower "new" sales? Really nice collection!!! And a great reference tool, as well. Thank you for sharing! __________________ *(Member NAWCC since 1976)* 116713LN GMT-IIc 18k/SS (Z) + 116520 SS Daytona (M) + 16700 GMT Master (A) + 16610LV Submariner (V) + 16600 Sea Dweller (Z) + 116400 Milgauss White Dial (V) + 70330N Tudor Heritage Chronograph Grey w/Black Sub Dials (J) + 5513 Submariner Serif Dial (5.2 Mil) Who else needs an Intervention? (109 297) (137 237) (73 115) (221) (23) (56) (229) P-Club Member #5 RIP JJ Irani - TRF Legend

7 November 2010, 09:00 AM	#17
tictocChuck Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Chuck Location: Seattle Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 256	Nice GMT collections! Someday I would like to have the famous "Pepsi" model on my wrist. The ratio of sales between the SUB and GMT are interesting facts. Cheers

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