New Submariner sales flat as a pancake!

[winston]

My AD says they are just not moving like the old ones.

[blackmsport]

then they should do a 25% special...... then we will queue up

[SaddleSC]

Originally Posted by winston

My AD says they are just not moving like the old ones.

I would hardly call the opinion of one AD a representative sample to base any conclusion about worldwide sales of any particular model. I love the new Ceramic Sub and think that in a year or so, those who don't love it right away will warm up to it. Pictures don't do it justice.

[The GMT Master]

Couldn't be more different for us, I don't think one has been in the shop longer than 7 days yet. Had one go in the window, was snapped up the same day, still getting lots of enquiries about them too.

[StarSovereign]

I tried on the new LV in my AD yesterday and it was amazing. I probably wouldn't buy it as I never wear green, but the sales gal said it would not stay in the safe too long... They were also out of SS ceramic subs and TT ones...

[juani]

My local AD has had one in window for six weeks now!

[supercharged]

My AD said they can't keep up with demand , I bought his very last non ceramic
What do you call the non ceramic Btw ?

[moby33]

Originally Posted by SaddleSC

I would hardly call the opinion of one AD a representative sample to base any conclusion about worldwide sales of any particular model.

X2. I love titles like this...very misleading in that the very important fact of "One AD's Observation" was left out.

I know from first hand experience talking w/ 4 different ADs in multiple west coast states (2 in OR & 2 in CA) they very much said the complete opposite.

I was only able to handle a Sub-C in one of those ADs because they all reported the new ss Sub-C sold in less than a weeks time and the one I actually saw had literally just arrived the morning I walked into the store.

[moby33]

Originally Posted by supercharged

My AD said they can't keep up with demand , I bought his very last non ceramic
What do you call the non ceramic Btw ?

Sub!

[Fiery]

In Vienna (Austria) it's almost impossible to buy a black SS Sub-C, and even less chance to get a Sub-C LV. Only 250 km's away from Vienna, in Budapest (Hungary) you can get either Sub-C versions from stock -- all you have to do is dust them off :)

So what I'm trying to say: it's quite region specific which models are hot and which ones are not.

[gypsy]

still waiting for my lv but now its reckoned it'll be late dec instead of april, the bloke in the queue before me has already paid in full for the next one

[supercharged]

Originally Posted by moby33

Sub!

Thanks Moby

[Numismatist]

Remember most buyers are not WISs, a good AD salesperson knows how to 'steer' the customer to what the AD wants sold.

So, if you are looking at a higher priced Rolex and then ask about the new Sub-C, the response will likely be 'they are hard to find' because he wants you to go back and buy the higher priced Rolex.

Or, if you are non-commital but interested in the Sub-C, there may 'be one in the back for another customer' I could get you...

Feel manipulated? That's their goal.

I wouldn't believe that 'status' of any new Rolex coming from an AD. It's their game.

[Danand]

Originally Posted by Fiery

In Vienna (Austria) it's almost impossible to buy a black SS Sub-C, and even less chance to get a Sub-C LV. Only 250 km's away from Vienna, in Budapest (Hungary) you can get either Sub-C versions from stock -- all you have to do is dust them off :)

So what I'm trying to say: it's quite region specific which models are hot and which ones are not.

Totally agree. Also remember that with the economy the way it is there are some places really badly affected and some others that are humming along normally, and there often isn't a great deal of distance between them.
If you consider that the vast majority of rolex buyers are unaware of this forum, and look at how often there is a posting like "my new subc!" on TRF, you can figure there must be a fair number of subc sales out there.
Ps. If you like the watch then who cares what sales are like. The fewer people that buy it the more different mine seems!

[gimpex]

Hey Fiery ,

You based in Vienna ?

Agree with the observations.... still not easy to come by

[gypsy]

you can get them in the uk but most won't discount them

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by gimpex

Hey Fiery ,

You based in Vienna ?

Agree with the observations.... still not easy to come by

No, I live in Budapest. Here prices are higher than in Wien due to the higher VAT rate, and also because of the fluctuation of HUF/EUR exchange rate. So it's only worth a trip here to buy a Rolex if you cannot buy it elsewhere :)

Initially when I was planning the "what Rolex to pick" and "where to get it" details of my first Rolex purchase, I wanted to go to Wien to save some $$, and also to have an excuse to visit that beautiful city again. However, a WIS friend told me SS Sub-C is not available in any stores in Wien (they take orders though), so I gave up that plan. BTW, my wife actually walked past Wagner an hour ago, and she said there's a whole bunch of Subs and DateJusts shown in the shop window -- except of course, for the new SS Sub-C models. So I suppose it's still impossible to buy the new Subs from stock in Wien

[supercharged]

VAT rate goes up here in the UK after Christmas so prices will increase by at least 2%

[philip1019]

i got a 20% discount here in canada vancouver

[gimpex]

I am planning to make a tour around Wien centre AD's tomorrow morning ( if no rain )

A few weeks ago had a chance to buy a Sub C LV for Euro 5700 and waited too long thinking about it. In hindsight should have taken it , it will be a while before that price is easily reached

BTW - Budapest , restaurant Pomodoro ( I think its called ) is the best :)

[Nicko]

I would tell you why they're not selling but no one want's to hear the truth about these new Subs.

[philip1019]

Originally Posted by Nicko

I would tell you why they're not selling but no one want's to hear the truth about these new Subs.

please elaborate, i want to hear a unbiased view

[spuds]

Originally Posted by Nicko

I would tell you why they're not selling but no one want's to hear the truth about these new Subs.

Oh go on then I'll bite......

[spuds]

Originally Posted by philip1019

please elaborate, i want to hear a unbiased view

LMAO!!

[Art 1]

I see more of them in the case than the old style.

[spuds]

They're more expensive than the old ones & there's a world-wide recession on.

It ain't rocket science.

[Nicko]

Originally Posted by philip1019

please elaborate, i want to hear a unbiased view

OK, you got me....

[supercharged]

Originally Posted by Nicko

I would tell you why they're not selling but no one want's to hear the truth about these new Subs.

Go on then Niko do tell

[Nicko]

Originally Posted by spuds

Oh go on then I'll bite......

No big guy, I ain't pissin? you off no more...

We be friends now....

[thesmallwave]

Originally Posted by gypsy

still waiting for my lv but now its reckoned it'll be late dec instead of april, the bloke in the queue before me has already paid in full for the next one

Where about in UK are you mate?I belive you can get Sub C LV easy in Surrey.