I want to buy a Bond Seamaster. What do I need to know?

[WTB007]

Is there a big difference between the Bond Seamaster and Seamaster. Is it the same watch, only one has the Bond name on it?

This is my first higher end watch, and I want something nice that will hold its value. I was thinking about a Rolex, but it's a little more than I want to spend and the authorized dealer offered no discount.

[WTB007]

I thought I posted this in the Omega subforum. Sorry.

[Noonan]

A "Bond" Seamaster is generally any model that has the open hand design:

A "Normal" Seamaster would be the older style, which is now out of production:


There have been a few special editions of the Bond, which markings from the movies (007 on the second hand, special case-back...etc).

[The GMT Master]

There are several different 'Bond' Seamasters, but many more Seamasters in the range. A Seamaster can refer to an Aqua Terra, a Planet Ocean and a PloProf amongst others. However, the Bond Seamasters are referred to as the 300m Professional diver.

The standard models are available in Blue or Black, in three different sizes (ladies, mid-size, full size), and with a choice of quartz or co-axial automatic movements. The quartz is more affordable, but if you want a serious luxury watch, I would advise against buying that - pay a little extra for the automatic, and you won't be disappointed. There are also chronograph and GMT variants too. Omegas won't hold their value, though, there are very, very few brands that will these days - even Rolexes aren't holding their value as well as they used to.

There are also some limited editions with specific Bond branding, but you'll struggle to find one new now

I recommend taking a look at the Omega website, they have all their current models on

All the best

Chris

[Alessio Scala]

i suggest to buy the new one whit co-axial 41 mm. in black.
is a true beauty!

[dieseldragon]

I wear my SMP nearly every day, its the 41mm large size and its a great looking watch with a real quality feel. You will not be disappointed with it. But get the Automatic, like has been said, quartz is cheaper, but the auto retains its value better and is just a bit more special.

[dieseldragon]

I have mine on a mesh.

[Sarko]

All you need to know that the seamaster is a freaking great WATCH.
Here is mine Seamaster:

[av8ors]

Originally Posted by Sarko

All you need to know that the seamaster is a freaking great WATCH.
Here is mine Seamaster:

Nice watch!

[WTB007]

Originally Posted by The GMT Master

There are several different 'Bond' Seamasters, but many more Seamasters in the range. A Seamaster can refer to an Aqua Terra, a Planet Ocean and a PloProf amongst others. However, the Bond Seamasters are referred to as the 300m Professional diver.

The standard models are available in Blue or Black, in three different sizes (ladies, mid-size, full size), and with a choice of quartz or co-axial automatic movements. The quartz is more affordable, but if you want a serious luxury watch, I would advise against buying that - pay a little extra for the automatic, and you won't be disappointed. There are also chronograph and GMT variants too. Omegas won't hold their value, though, there are very, very few brands that will these days - even Rolexes aren't holding their value as well as they used to.

There are also some limited editions with specific Bond branding, but you'll struggle to find one new now

I recommend taking a look at the Omega website, they have all their current models on

All the best

Chris

Chris, thanks for the information. I am new to high end watches so I am learning, and all the details are very helpful in making a choice.

Does an automatic have a longer life than quartz? Is that why it is more expensive?

[htc8p]

me too i sorely sorely want to buy my next watch and im targeting the bond seamaster. but im pretty sure my wife wont let me.

so now i just keep saving and dont know what will happen next but i dont want to miss out or maybe a better dive watch will come along.

[Sarko]

Originally Posted by htc8p

me too i sorely sorely want to buy my next watch and im targeting the bond seamaster. but im pretty sure my wife wont let me.

so now i just keep saving and dont know what will happen next but i dont want to miss out or maybe a better dive watch will come along.

Your wife wont let you???? where your balls at man?

[Saxon007]

Originally Posted by WTB007

Chris, thanks for the information. I am new to high end watches so I am learning, and all the details are very helpful in making a choice.

Does an automatic have a longer life than quartz? Is that why it is more expensive?

An automatic is mechanical chronometer and does not require a battery. It does require servicing (think of it as a tune-up/oil change) every 5 to 10 years, the current Co-Axial Omega movements supposedly do not need service as often as the older 1120 movements. The automatic movements are more expensive to manufacture, hence the higher price. They are also more desirable among most watch collectors. The chronometer description indicates the movement has been tested by the Swiss and is capable of keeping time within +4/-6 seconds per day.

There are mechanical watches from the 18th century that still keep time so the auto should easily last your lifetime as long as you take care of it. I dunno how long a quartz movement will last. As long as the battery doesn't leak I would suspect a long time. Although cheaper, the quartz watch will actually keep better time than the automatic and does not require winding, it will run for as long as the battery is good.

This is the current automatic Bond watch:



http://www.omegawatches.com/gents/se...meter/22208000

PM Fr John, his favorite Omega AD can get you a good deal on an Omega.

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by Sarko

Your wife wont let you???? where your balls at man?

And comments like this are the reason I don't post here as much anymore

Anyway, back to OP's question, basically any Seamaster (black or blue) non chronograph would be a "Bond" watch. The one Pierce Brosnan wore (the 2531.80) has been discontinued, but still can be bought on E-bay. The newer co-axial model that Craig wore in Casino Royal (blue faced Seamaster, with the new movement) can still be had new, as well as the two versions of the Planet Ocean he wore.

I'd recommend getting a Blue Seamaster first. The dial is simply stunning, and is one of the BEST looking watches out there IMO (and I own both a Planet Ocean, and a SMP) :)

[Sarko]

And comments like this are the reason I don't post here as much anymore

With all do respect Mike but come on! What kind of self esteem or self respect do you have if you can let someone else forbid you to do something.
If he is buying things while they have for example money problems and his wife says NO then I canreally understand that!

I see this all around me when a woman is trying to control his man and holds him on a leash.

This was not do disrespect the guy but to ask him why he let his wife push him around like that. HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUY SOMETHING IF HE LIKES IT AND SHE SHOULD RESPECT THAT AND LOVE AND SUPORT HIS MAN.

My way of reacting was maybe wrong but that won't change the fact that he is loosing his manhood if his wife is deciding for him what to buy or not to buy. That is my honnest opiniON.

If I have insulted someone I want to appologize for that. That was not the goal of this reaction.

[The GMT Master]

Originally Posted by Saxon007

An automatic is mechanical chronometer and does not require a battery. It does require servicing (think of it as a tune-up/oil change) every 5 to 10 years, the current Co-Axial Omega movements supposedly do not need service as often as the older 1120 movements. The automatic movements are more expensive to manufacture, hence the higher price. They are also more desirable among most watch collectors. The chronometer description indicates the movement has been tested by the Swiss and is capable of keeping time within +4/-6 seconds per day.

There are mechanical watches from the 18th century that still keep time so the auto should easily last your lifetime as long as you take care of it. I dunno how long a quartz movement will last. As long as the battery doesn't leak I would suspect a long time. Although cheaper, the quartz watch will actually keep better time than the automatic and does not require winding, it will run for as long as the battery is good.

This is the current automatic Bond watch:



http://www.omegawatches.com/gents/se...meter/22208000

PM Fr John, his favorite Omega AD can get you a good deal on an Omega.

Great post

Just to add, batteries for quartz movements last around 2 to 3 years, and need resealing after they've been changed. They need servicing too, although there is less to go wrong on a quartz. Automatics are more expensive because they're more complicated, and require more expertise to assemble, but the satisfaction of owning one is definitely worth the price difference. It's hard to say way, but it's almost as if mechanical watches have a soul - quartz watches are too precise, too cold. The fact that mechanical watches aren't perfect gives them character - each individual movement will have it's own little quirks, something that makes it yours

[oo7]

Any Seamaster will do if it's your first. Just get the 41mm version of any one you get. They're all nice. Bond ones are flavor of the month and cost more for no apparent reason other than Bond's name attached to it. Go one further and get a black face GMT Seamaster Pro. Its a very nice watch and doesn't sell as well so prices for new can be discounted very aggressively.

[Saxon007]

Originally Posted by Sarko

I see this all around me when a woman is trying to control his man and holds him on a leash.

This was not do disrespect the guy but to ask him why he let his wife push him around like that. HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUY SOMETHING IF HE LIKES IT AND SHE SHOULD RESPECT THAT AND LOVE AND SUPORT HIS MAN.

My way of reacting was maybe wrong but that won't change the fact that he is loosing his manhood if his wife is deciding for him what to buy or not to buy. That is my honnest opiniON.

The most common reason for divorce are conflicts over money. In most healthy marriages financial decisions are agreed on mutually.

I don't feel it makes you less of a man to discuss financial matters with your wife. In fact, I think it makes you more of a man because it shows respect for her. Anyone can buy something because they like it but it takes maturity and self control to think it through and do what is best for your family. And in my book, taking care of your family and responsibilties is what demonstrates real manhood.

[JBat]

Originally Posted by Mike B

And comments like this are the reason I don't post here as much anymore

Anyway, back to OP's question, basically any Seamaster (black or blue) non chronograph would be a "Bond" watch. The one Pierce Brosnan wore (the 2531.80) has been discontinued, but still can be bought on E-bay. The newer co-axial model that Craig wore in Casino Royal (blue faced Seamaster, with the new movement) can still be had new, as well as the two versions of the Planet Ocean he wore.

I'd recommend getting a Blue Seamaster first. The dial is simply stunning, and is one of the BEST looking watches out there IMO (and I own both a Planet Ocean, and a SMP) :)

I thought Daniel Craig wore a Planet Ocean in Casino Royale. I just watched it last night and it sure looked like it.

[JBat]

OP, you have gotten good info in this thread, so I won't repeat it. Pick any Seamaster, get it with an automatic movement (please) and get it in the 41mm size. And enjoy!

I prefer this one myself, though it is now discontinued:

[AlexandriaVA]

I think JBat's right about Casino Royale. I've attached a picture I found in another forum. PO is a great watch. Regardless, the Bond Seamaster is fantastic, too. I have a good friend from work who has one and it looks great.

[Newportkrieger]

Originally Posted by Mike B

And comments like this are the reason I don't post here as much anymore

you were kidding right?

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by JBat

I thought Daniel Craig wore a Planet Ocean in Casino Royale. I just watched it last night and it sure looked like it.

He wore the 45.5MM PO in the first half of the movie, once they "promoted" him to 00 status (when he went to Montenegro), he wears the blue SMP for the rest of the film :)

[warrior]

Yes! he wears the Blue Bond Seamaster during the card table scene....

Originally Posted by Mike B

He wore the 45.5MM PO in the first half of the movie, once they "promoted" him to 00 status (when he went to Montenegro), he wears the blue SMP for the rest of the film :)

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by Sarko

With all do respect Mike but come on! What kind of self esteem or self respect do you have if you can let someone else forbid you to do something.
If he is buying things while they have for example money problems and his wife says NO then I canreally understand that!

I see this all around me when a woman is trying to control his man and holds him on a leash.

This was not do disrespect the guy but to ask him why he let his wife push him around like that. HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUY SOMETHING IF HE LIKES IT AND SHE SHOULD RESPECT THAT AND LOVE AND SUPORT HIS MAN.

My way of reacting was maybe wrong but that won't change the fact that he is loosing his manhood if his wife is deciding for him what to buy or not to buy. That is my honnest opiniON.

If I have insulted someone I want to appologize for that. That was not the goal of this reaction.

That's ok, sorry I went off like that. Had a bad day the past few days (well, ok, a bad YEAR lol). I actually understand what your are talking about. I dated a girl once that with almost every purchace she wanted to know what/what I needed said item for. Notice I said she was an EX girlfriend lol

[Roley]

I would look for a 2531.80.00 with an 1120 caliber movement in it. Brilliant watch.

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by Roley

I would look for a 2531.80.00 with a 1120 caliber movement in it. Brilliant watch.

X2. The 2531 is my favorite watch

I bought mine brand new in 2005, and she gains about a minute or so a month. Not too bad, but it IS due for a spa treatment :)
I've seen a few used 2531.80's on E-bay, most want well over $1,000USD for them, and a lot of them are in not-that great a shape, many with missing boxes, scratches, etc.

[PBL]

To me it will always be the 2531.80. Different straps and bracelets just make it interesting.

[blackmsport]

Originally Posted by WTB007

Is there a big difference between the Bond Seamaster and Seamaster. Is it the same watch, only one has the Bond name on it?
.

real Bond watch comes with Laser Gun, Aston Martin remote starter, chemical bomb detector etc.... and Blonde Girl magnet

[TARDIS]

Originally Posted by Sarko

All you need to know that the seamaster is a freaking great WATCH.
Here is mine Seamaster:

To me this is the best looking 300M SMP. Great photo as well!