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Tommysol · 5 December 2010, 04:56 AM

Would you call the PAM 341 a Monstrosity?

R1@160@alltimes · 5 December 2010, 04:59 AM

I love it

MrTito · 5 December 2010, 05:36 AM

Off the wrist I think she's one of the most beautiful watches ever made.
Sadly I do think think she's a monstrosity on it

Spencer · 5 December 2010, 07:54 AM

Yup, no offence to any 341 owners, but other than a pic of Schartzenger wearing it, I think it looks pretty illy on 9 out of 10 other wrists.

SubKing · 8 December 2010, 12:37 PM

i think its a beautiful piece of history. love it on and off the wrist.

TswaneNguni · 8 December 2010, 01:43 PM

I saw one at the AD,two weeks ago.Had it on the wrist for a minute or two ........ it is absolutely fantastic !!!

230gr for the 341.My Omega PLOngeur PROFessional with mesh bracelet is 280gr.

ocwatching · 8 December 2010, 02:34 PM

loved the piece in the metal...just sadly not wearable for me...
but its a great piece...well done and beautiful in the metal...

Andad · 8 December 2010, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

I saw one at the AD,two weeks ago.Had it on the wrist for a minute or two ........ it is absolutely fantastic !!!

230gr for the 341.My Omega PLOngeur PROFessional with mesh bracelet is 280gr.

You have the wrist to wear them well Neef.

oo7 · 8 December 2010, 04:00 PM

Not if its hanging on a wall somewhere. But if you like it, that's all that matters.

(You asked)

L-16610 · 12 December 2010, 07:27 AM

I love the watch ... in a box, not on a wrist
the size is stupid

alljunks · 12 December 2010, 09:56 AM

Wow!!!

jacksonian · 17 December 2010, 09:17 AM

Absolutely not. It's gorgeous. I love mine. it may not be for everyone, but it's for me (and Tommy of course!)

VetteBandit · 17 December 2010, 12:46 PM

Huge yes, monstrosity nahhhh.

jacksonian · 18 December 2010, 12:06 AM

Here's another picture to give you an idea of how it looks to most people. I think the classic up close wrist shot makes it look much worse than it really does. If this is your idea of a monstrosity, then we clearly have different definitions of the word. :) For reference, I'm 5'9" 175lbs.

jacksonian · 18 December 2010, 12:30 AM

Or a nice stiff Micah Mauser turns it into an unbelievably hot desk clock!

jacksonian · 18 December 2010, 12:33 AM

Say what you want, but it simply is the beauty AND the beast. I'm actually glad it's not universally loved. I'm a polarizing person and I like things that make a statement. No milk toast.

psv · 18 December 2010, 12:37 AM

Not to offend any owners but that watch looks like a joke to me (and I like Panerai's...). I understand the point of making a copy/re-issue a cult classic made in 1956 for the Egyptian Commandos and I guess they should get some kudos for at least making it titanium and putting their in-house movement in there, but still a 60mm case in a $30K+ watch that isn't even very attractive....

Honestly, I'm glad some people like it - different tastes is what makes this world beautiful - but it certainly not for me.

jacksonian · 18 December 2010, 03:28 AM

Well, I'm glad you're honest and I honestly am glad you don't like it. I appreciate it more because of that. However, if you truly don't mean to offend anyone, saying things like " that watch looks like a joke" probably isn't the best way to do it. :) But I'm not offended. And thanks for depleting the Sly pic--he's killing it!

psv · 18 December 2010, 06:45 AM

As I said, I don't mean to offend but those were honestly the thoughts passing through my head and I'm fairly sure that I'm not alone. So like it or not, that is the impression you will get from a certain segment of the population wearing that watch.

jacksonian · 18 December 2010, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psv

As I said, I don't mean to offend but those were honestly the thoughts passing through my head and I'm fairly sure that I'm not alone. So like it or not, that is the impression you will get from a certain segment of the population wearing that watch.

Yes, I heard you the first time. :) what I was trying to tell you is that just because you preface something with "I don't mean to offend," your comments can still offend if you use words that some will find offensive. That was all. Kind of like saying, "I don't mean to offend, but your car/dog/shoes/hat are a joke, I mean, I'm just being honest."

I truly don't mind what you said. My wife even calls it my "clown watch". But I have gotten at least 6 spontaneous, "I love THAT watch" from friends and strangers alike. It's definitely polarizing for sure, but so far a lot more people love it than laugh at it. But the only thing that matters is that I think it's awesome. And I am more than happy I didn't let all the naysayers talk me out of it. I have a hard time wearing the other 3 awesome Pams in my collection because i want to wear this one all the time.

bcacncnc · 18 December 2010, 11:58 AM

I would consider buying one if the size was more suited to my wrist size. I think it looks good, just far too large for me.

SubKing · 19 December 2010, 07:50 AM

[QUOTE=jacksonian;2225592]Here's another picture to give you an idea of how it looks to most people. I think the classic up close wrist shot makes it look much worse than it really does. If this is your idea of a monstrosity, then we clearly have different definitions of the word. :) For reference, I'm 5'9" 175lbs.

hey,
how does mine look on me?

i think the watch looks great on you jackson and tommy! if you got it then rock it. one of a kind looking watch.. people damn you for anything out side of normal in todays standard... the watch isnt a joke and im not a joke. i love it. history in the making and history of the past.. cool watch all the way around.

SubKing · 19 December 2010, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psv

Not to offend any owners but that watch looks like a joke to me (and I like Panerai's...). I understand the point of making a copy/re-issue a cult classic made in 1956 for the Egyptian Commandos and I guess they should get some kudos for at least making it titanium and putting their in-house movement in there, but still a 60mm case in a $30K+ watch that isn't even very attractive....

Honestly, I'm glad some people like it - different tastes is what makes this world beautiful - but it certainly not for me.

i think you used poor choice of words in your post... the watch is not a joke if you like it or dont like it. thats like me calling a watch you own a joke and that would deff be rude of me to say.

Singslinger · 19 December 2010, 10:28 AM

I think it looks very good. It may not fit everyone's wrist but IMHO that doesn't detract from its attractiveness. Great watch!

(Incidentally, I think it looks fantastic on Sly).

SubKing · 19 December 2010, 01:22 PM

yea sly does wear it very well.. i remember this picture over a year ago i saw this watch for the first time and fell in love. i used to think how lucky sly was but now i feel just as lucky :)

sea-dweller · 27 December 2010, 03:11 PM

It looks nice, but too large for my wrists.

cr6man · 27 December 2010, 03:39 PM

I'd like to try one on.....have a 9.5" wrist...I think it looks good!

rpryan55 · 27 December 2010, 11:04 PM

Love, love, love this watch. Hated it at first; time and seeing it in the flesh has cured me.

Now I have to have one.

theken · 27 December 2010, 11:52 PM

Fascinating reference but too big for my 7.25" wrist.
I do think it looks great on the soon to be former governor of CA.

karmatp · 28 December 2010, 12:02 AM

It is a amazing watch but I could buy a new car for the same price.

View Poll Results: Would you describe the PAM 341 as a Monstrosity?
NOT A MONSTROSITY	27	40.30%
YES A MONSTROSITY	40	59.70%
Voters: 67. You may not vote on this poll

5 December 2010, 04:56 AM	#1
Tommysol "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: California Posts: 591	Poll: Pam 341 Would you call the PAM 341 a Monstrosity?

5 December 2010, 04:59 AM	#2
R1@160@alltimes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: ♛ Posts: 4,408	I love it __________________

5 December 2010, 07:54 AM	#4
Spencer "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: US Posts: 1,338	Yup, no offence to any 341 owners, but other than a pic of Schartzenger wearing it, I think it looks pretty illy on 9 out of 10 other wrists. __________________ I'm a perpetual kind of guy Resident Audemars Piguet Fanatic

8 December 2010, 02:34 PM	#7
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	loved the piece in the metal...just sadly not wearable for me... but its a great piece...well done and beautiful in the metal... __________________ too much into watches...

5 December 2010, 05:36 AM	#3
MrTito "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK Watch: BLNR, JLC Deep Sea Posts: 164	Off the wrist I think she's one of the most beautiful watches ever made. Sadly I do think think she's a monstrosity on it

8 December 2010, 12:37 PM	#5
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	i think its a beautiful piece of history. love it on and off the wrist.

8 December 2010, 01:43 PM	#6
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	I saw one at the AD,two weeks ago.Had it on the wrist for a minute or two ........ it is absolutely fantastic !!! 230gr for the 341.My Omega PLOngeur PROFessional with mesh bracelet is 280gr.

8 December 2010, 04:00 PM	#9
oo7 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Julius Location: Toronto CANADA Posts: 217	Not if its hanging on a wall somewhere. But if you like it, that's all that matters. (You asked)

12 December 2010, 07:27 AM	#10
L-16610 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 825	I love the watch ... in a box, not on a wrist the size is stupid

12 December 2010, 09:56 AM	#11
alljunks "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CA Watch: All Nice watch ! Posts: 387	Wow!!!

17 December 2010, 09:17 AM	#12
jacksonian Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NC, USA Posts: 125	Absolutely not. It's gorgeous. I love mine. it may not be for everyone, but it's for me (and Tommy of course!)

17 December 2010, 12:46 PM	#13
VetteBandit "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: JP Location: USA Watch: All of them! Posts: 917	Huge yes, monstrosity nahhhh. __________________ ********************************* "Eveyone has a plan until they get punched in the face." Instagram: @30threejosh

18 December 2010, 12:06 AM	#14
jacksonian Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NC, USA Posts: 125	Here's another picture to give you an idea of how it looks to most people. I think the classic up close wrist shot makes it look much worse than it really does. If this is your idea of a monstrosity, then we clearly have different definitions of the word. :) For reference, I'm 5'9" 175lbs.

18 December 2010, 12:30 AM	#15
jacksonian Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NC, USA Posts: 125	Or a nice stiff Micah Mauser turns it into an unbelievably hot desk clock!

18 December 2010, 12:33 AM	#16
jacksonian Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NC, USA Posts: 125	Say what you want, but it simply is the beauty AND the beast. I'm actually glad it's not universally loved. I'm a polarizing person and I like things that make a statement. No milk toast.

18 December 2010, 12:37 AM	#17
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	Not to offend any owners but that watch looks like a joke to me (and I like Panerai's...). I understand the point of making a copy/re-issue a cult classic made in 1956 for the Egyptian Commandos and I guess they should get some kudos for at least making it titanium and putting their in-house movement in there, but still a 60mm case in a $30K+ watch that isn't even very attractive.... Honestly, I'm glad some people like it - different tastes is what makes this world beautiful - but it certainly not for me.

18 December 2010, 03:28 AM	#18
jacksonian Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NC, USA Posts: 125	Well, I'm glad you're honest and I honestly am glad you don't like it. I appreciate it more because of that. However, if you truly don't mean to offend anyone, saying things like " that watch looks like a joke" probably isn't the best way to do it. :) But I'm not offended. And thanks for depleting the Sly pic--he's killing it!

18 December 2010, 06:45 AM	#19
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	As I said, I don't mean to offend but those were honestly the thoughts passing through my head and I'm fairly sure that I'm not alone. So like it or not, that is the impression you will get from a certain segment of the population wearing that watch.

18 December 2010, 11:58 AM	#21
bcacncnc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Bryan Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,577	I would consider buying one if the size was more suited to my wrist size. I think it looks good, just far too large for me. __________________ Omega Panerai Chopard Grand Seiko

19 December 2010, 07:50 AM	#22
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	[QUOTE=jacksonian;2225592]Here's another picture to give you an idea of how it looks to most people. I think the classic up close wrist shot makes it look much worse than it really does. If this is your idea of a monstrosity, then we clearly have different definitions of the word. :) For reference, I'm 5'9" 175lbs. hey, how does mine look on me? i think the watch looks great on you jackson and tommy! if you got it then rock it. one of a kind looking watch.. people damn you for anything out side of normal in todays standard... the watch isnt a joke and im not a joke. i love it. history in the making and history of the past.. cool watch all the way around.

19 December 2010, 10:28 AM	#24
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	I think it looks very good. It may not fit everyone's wrist but IMHO that doesn't detract from its attractiveness. Great watch! (Incidentally, I think it looks fantastic on Sly).

19 December 2010, 01:22 PM	#25
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	yea sly does wear it very well.. i remember this picture over a year ago i saw this watch for the first time and fell in love. i used to think how lucky sly was but now i feel just as lucky :)

27 December 2010, 03:11 PM	#26
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	It looks nice, but too large for my wrists. __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

27 December 2010, 03:39 PM	#27
cr6man Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: harry Location: left coast Watch: mickey mouse Posts: 490	I'd like to try one on.....have a 9.5" wrist...I think it looks good!

27 December 2010, 11:04 PM	#28
rpryan55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Dick Location: USA Watch: SubND,DD,SSDaytona Posts: 2,257	Love, love, love this watch. Hated it at first; time and seeing it in the flesh has cured me. Now I have to have one. __________________ “The only reason for time ....................... is so that everything doesn't happen at once." Albert Einstein

27 December 2010, 11:52 PM	#29
theken "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 3,417	Fascinating reference but too big for my 7.25" wrist. I do think it looks great on the soon to be former governor of CA.

28 December 2010, 12:02 AM	#30
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	It is a amazing watch but I could buy a new car for the same price. __________________ My grails:

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