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stevemulholland3 · 12 December 2010, 11:13 PM

that is listed on ebay with a certificut..
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-16...item3cb327603d
there is no possible way that this case is real..and there are several reasons for this..
can anyone list the number one reason that tells me that this case has to be fake?

Nicko · 12 December 2010, 11:46 PM

First off, if it was a 1978, it would be a 5 mil serial. I believe an 8 mil would not even be a 1680.

I know, cuz I'm wearing my 5.4 mil 1680 as I type and it's from 1978!

Kokyuryoku · 12 December 2010, 11:50 PM

Long E?

harry in montreal · 13 December 2010, 12:02 AM

1. long E
2. the date and vin do not agree to 1978
3. it looks factory fresh
besides, how could a case be mated to a set of papers while the watch was purportedly parted out at some earlier date. makes no sense.

Harry

TimeToGo · 13 December 2010, 01:23 AM

8.7 mil serial would denote a 16800 model.

Nicko · 13 December 2010, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicko

First off, if it was a 1978, it would be a 5 mil serial. I believe an 8 mil would not even be a 1680.

I know, cuz I'm wearing my 5.4 mil 1680 as I type and it's from 1978!

Like I said!

You need to give is something a bit more difficult...

springer · 13 December 2010, 02:22 AM

Let's start with the warranty paper. The correct style number found on a warranty paper for a 1680 is R168000B931500 not R16803330.

Serial number 8271912 would be circa 1983/1984, long after the end of 1680 Submariner production.

The typed warranty paper is on the cusp of 1680 production. You do not see many 1680's with typed warranty papers vs. the punched warranty, but it is possible toward the end of the production era - circa 1978. Most of the 1680's with 1978 serial numbers were not sold until the early 1980's.

The bezel insert is counterfeit, to include that huge pearl. The photos of the case are too poor for me to judge the case.

Based on my observations I wouldn't touch this auction. Why someone would have a case and warranty paper, and nothing else is highly suspicious. Add the fact that the warranty paper is concocted, and the bezel insert is a fake makes for a big "thumbs down."

Here is a pic from the auction:

stevemulholland3 · 13 December 2010, 03:01 AM

Good jobs guys!

mcjp6 · 13 December 2010, 07:24 PM

I don't like 1680s with fake cases.........

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idk01 · 14 December 2010, 10:53 PM

12 December 2010, 11:13 PM	#1
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,672	a few people have emailed me asking about this 1680.. that is listed on ebay with a certificut.. http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-16...item3cb327603d there is no possible way that this case is real..and there are several reasons for this.. can anyone list the number one reason that tells me that this case has to be fake?

12 December 2010, 11:50 PM	#3
Kokyuryoku "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Rye Location: Japan Watch: Sundial Posts: 2,156	Long E? __________________ 'The Way of a Warrior is based on humanity, love, and sincerity; the heart of martial valor is true bravery, wisdom, love, and friendship. Emphasis on the physical aspects of warriorship is futile, for the power of the body is always limited'*- Morihei Ueshiba -* Omega 3570.50 (77mil) Rolex 16610 (V) Rolex 1601 (1966) Seiko BM

13 December 2010, 02:22 AM	#7
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	Let's start with the warranty paper. The correct style number found on a warranty paper for a 1680 is R168000B931500 not R16803330. Serial number 8271912 would be circa 1983/1984, long after the end of 1680 Submariner production. The typed warranty paper is on the cusp of 1680 production. You do not see many 1680's with typed warranty papers vs. the punched warranty, but it is possible toward the end of the production era - circa 1978. Most of the 1680's with 1978 serial numbers were not sold until the early 1980's. The bezel insert is counterfeit, to include that huge pearl. The photos of the case are too poor for me to judge the case. Based on my observations I wouldn't touch this auction. Why someone would have a case and warranty paper, and nothing else is highly suspicious. Add the fact that the warranty paper is concocted, and the bezel insert is a fake makes for a big "thumbs down." Here is a pic from the auction: Attached Images __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

14 December 2010, 10:53 PM	#10
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12 December 2010, 11:46 PM	#2
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	First off, if it was a 1978, it would be a 5 mil serial. I believe an 8 mil would not even be a 1680. I know, cuz I'm wearing my 5.4 mil 1680 as I type and it's from 1978!

13 December 2010, 12:02 AM	#4
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	1. long E 2. the date and vin do not agree to 1978 3. it looks factory fresh besides, how could a case be mated to a set of papers while the watch was purportedly parted out at some earlier date. makes no sense. Harry

13 December 2010, 01:23 AM	#5
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	8.7 mil serial would denote a 16800 model.

13 December 2010, 03:01 AM	#8
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,672	Good jobs guys!

13 December 2010, 07:24 PM	#9
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	I don't like 1680s with fake cases......... This listing (260703739965) has been removed, or this item is not available.

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