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Nick Hacko · 25 April 2007, 08:27 PM

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Andad · 25 April 2007, 09:07 PM

Hi Nick,

As usual, very Interesting information.

Did you ever find out what the material was?

Prince · 25 April 2007, 09:32 PM

Thanks, Nick. When you're done with dissecting the watch, I have a circuit board that you can tinker with!

Always informative. There are a couple or three of you tinkerers here on TRF, and we appreciate your undying curiosity. Somebody's got to do it - we appreciate your contribution very much!

leopardprey · 25 April 2007, 09:42 PM

Great Post, but JJ is really going to be pissed when he sees what you have done to his Sub's crown!!!

padi56 · 25 April 2007, 09:55 PM

Makes perfect sense since the tube threads are made from steel,the crown female thread must be made of a similar hard metal.Like Nicholas said gold threads would be far to soft, and would wear very easily.And this is another reason Rolex uses the term Rolesor,for the TT gold watches.Made from mixed metals and not solid gold.In places like the UK if you state its gold it must be either hallmarked or all 9ct,18ct,22ct etc.But looking at the solid all
gold watches,wonder how they manage with the threads on
those watches.Or is the crown tube gold,then its all softer gold to softer gold threads.???

colemanitis · 25 April 2007, 10:08 PM

Next we'll probably find out the bezel isn't solid gold either.

Solar · 25 April 2007, 10:13 PM

Very informative post, and thank you for taking the time to show this to us!

Cheers,

Chris

davor · 25 April 2007, 10:18 PM

great info thank u very much nick

Erix · 25 April 2007, 10:27 PM

Cool post...

Obsession · 25 April 2007, 10:34 PM

I'm very very much disappointed after seeing the photos and 7800 in my mind really my mind is so mixed about Rolex and I remembered one sentence from a friend here, 'Anything that you see yellow on a Rolex is gold....' Upset...

Rockrolex · 25 April 2007, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leopardprey

Great Post, but JJ is really going to be pissed when he sees what you have done to his Sub's crown!!!

Now you know what JJ's Folex is made of.

Obsession · 25 April 2007, 10:44 PM

Folex=)

Rockrolex · 25 April 2007, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aykun325

Folex=)

Fake Rolex = Folex.

Obsession · 25 April 2007, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockrolex

Fake Rolex = Folex.

I already knew it. Smile is just for the joke, not for the thought of the F.

nko51 · 26 April 2007, 12:19 AM

I am starting to think that Rolex is starting to pull the wool over our eyes. What if the links are also only layered with gold. I would really be pissed if this was the case.

nko51 · 26 April 2007, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leopardprey

Great Post, but JJ is really going to be pissed when he sees what you have done to his Sub's crown!!!

This may cause JJ to flip his TT Blue Sub!

ohlins · 26 April 2007, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

But looking at the solid all
gold watches,wonder how they manage with the threads on
those watches.Or is the crown tube gold,then its all softer gold to softer gold threads.???

yeah.....something to ponder.....for example, does a 18k yg daydate uses a gold crown tube or ss crown tube..?

colemanitis · 26 April 2007, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nko51

I am starting to think that Rolex is starting to pull the wool over our eyes. What if the links are also only layered with gold. I would really be pissed if this was the case.

They don't need to layer them with gold, they're HOLLOW.

Dr Rock · 26 April 2007, 01:40 AM

Excellent post! Thankyou!

diablojota · 26 April 2007, 02:50 AM

Nick, again another fantastic and informative post. Thank you again for posting this.

Welshwatchman · 26 April 2007, 02:56 AM

Keep 'em coming Nick.

Not just Rolex though.

If you've got a Patek on the chopping board let's see what it's made of.

Fitchy · 26 April 2007, 02:58 AM

mlb · 26 April 2007, 04:18 AM

Very informative, as always Nick!

Makes you wonder... What else is plated

Mike

JJ Irani · 26 April 2007, 04:24 AM

Not plated, Mike....that's an 18 K gold CAP.

Guys,

If you've read some of my previous posts, I have always maintained that anything YELLOW you see on a Rolex is 18 K gold.

I was over the years made fully aware by several knowledgeable ADs that the crown of any gold or TT watch is an 18 K gold cap. It's only common sense that there's no way Rolex would use gold on the threads. That would be too soft and would crumble easily over a period of time.

Pretty sure the base is solid steel with steel threads to match up with the steel threads on the stem.

Thanks for the pictorial anyway, Nick....very nice. But it sure did hurt to see that gold capping being ripped away like that!!

Cheers - JJ

worktolivelife · 26 April 2007, 04:35 AM

interesting post!!!!!!!

guess the crown/cap on my dayona is white gold, to be honest don't suppose i could tell the difference with regard that, case and bracelet are hallmarked!!

steve
BTW had a tag which is just plated 10 microns i think for nearly 16 yrs top quality!!!

mikey · 26 April 2007, 04:39 AM

It makes perfect sense for the crown to be capped in gold. The pure gold threads would bevel and wear very easily from adjusting the time or just tinkering around with your Rolex. I guess the Gold Cap shell of the Oyster Perpetual Date is an extension of the crown idea gold cap and steel center. Great scientific experiment.

iSellJerseyShore · 26 April 2007, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Not plated, Mike....that's an 18 K gold CAP.

Guys,

If you've read some of my previous posts, I have always maintained that anything YELLOW you see on a Rolex is 18 K gold.

I was over the years made fully aware by several knowledgeable ADs that the crown of any gold or TT watch is an 18 K gold cap. It's only common sense that there's no way Rolex would use gold on the threads. That would be too soft and would crumble easily over a period of time.

Pretty sure the base is solid steel with steel threads to match up with the steel threads on the stem.

Thanks for the pictorial anyway, Nick....very nice. But it sure did hurt to see that gold capping being ripped away like that!!

Cheers - JJ

So JJ are the links solid gold on a TT Sub and what about all gold Subs & presidential's?

-Frankie

JJ Irani · 26 April 2007, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iSellJerseyShore

So JJ are the links solid gold on a TT Sub and what about all gold Subs & presidential's?

-Frankie

Like I've already said, anything you see YELLOW on a Rolex is 18 K gold.

On the TT Sub, the gold links are 18 K but they are hollow.

On the all gold Sub and DD Presidents, ALL the links are SOLID.

On the TT Daytona and new TT GMT-II, all centre GOLD links are SOLID.

One more thing....on the new Oyster and Jubilee bracelets - ALL LINKS ARE SOLID!!

JJ

iSellJerseyShore · 26 April 2007, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Like I've already said, anything you see YELLOW on a Rolex is 18 K gold.

On the TT Sub, the gold links are 18 K but they are hollow.

On the all gold Sub and DD Presidents, ALL the links are SOLID.

On the TT Daytona and new TT GMT-II, all centre GOLD links are SOLID.

One more thing....on the new Oyster and Jubilee bracelets - ALL LINKS ARE SOLID!!

JJ

JJ,

Thanks! I know you said it before, but I just needed to hear it again for reassurance..

You are the man!!

-Frankie

mlb · 26 April 2007, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Not plated, Mike....that's an 18 K gold CAP.

Guys,

If you've read some of my previous posts, I have always maintained that anything YELLOW you see on a Rolex is 18 K gold.

I was over the years made fully aware by several knowledgeable ADs that the crown of any gold or TT watch is an 18 K gold cap. It's only common sense that there's no way Rolex would use gold on the threads. That would be too soft and would crumble easily over a period of time.

Pretty sure the base is solid steel with steel threads to match up with the steel threads on the stem.

Thanks for the pictorial anyway, Nick....very nice. But it sure did hurt to see that gold capping being ripped away like that!!

Cheers - JJ

I know you said it before. And I don't mean to pry...But I just do not see how it is solid, although I do understand(If that makes sense)

I know plated, and 'fused' (I think the word you used) is different, but it just looks the same kinda

I assume that plated, you would not be able to tear off like Nick did in his pictorial...Correct?

Mike

25 April 2007, 08:27 PM	#1
Nick Hacko Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: . Posts: 274	Blue watch, gold crwon - pictorial devoted to Mr. JJ Irani . Last edited by Nick Hacko; 30 August 2007 at 12:12 PM..

25 April 2007, 09:07 PM	#2
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,534	Hi Nick, As usual, very Interesting information. Did you ever find out what the material was? __________________ E

25 April 2007, 09:32 PM	#3
Prince "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Allan Location: St. Augustine, FL Watch: Daytona/Sub/GMT/DJ Posts: 20,323	Thanks, Nick. When you're done with dissecting the watch, I have a circuit board that you can tinker with! Always informative. There are a couple or three of you tinkerers here on TRF, and we appreciate your undying curiosity. Somebody's got to do it - we appreciate your contribution very much! __________________ Member: Rolex Keeper's Society "You see, you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself." - Rick Nelson

25 April 2007, 09:55 PM	#5
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,064	Makes perfect sense since the tube threads are made from steel,the crown female thread must be made of a similar hard metal.Like Nicholas said gold threads would be far to soft, and would wear very easily.And this is another reason Rolex uses the term Rolesor,for the TT gold watches.Made from mixed metals and not solid gold.In places like the UK if you state its gold it must be either hallmarked or all 9ct,18ct,22ct etc.But looking at the solid all gold watches,wonder how they manage with the threads on those watches.Or is the crown tube gold,then its all softer gold to softer gold threads.??? __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

25 April 2007, 10:08 PM	#6
colemanitis "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jeff Location: Florida Watch: PAM 1090 Posts: 3,723	Next we'll probably find out the bezel isn't solid gold either. __________________ Member #471

25 April 2007, 09:42 PM	#4
leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	Great Post, but JJ is really going to be pissed when he sees what you have done to his Sub's crown!!!

25 April 2007, 10:13 PM	#7
Solar "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North America Watch: their hands, baby. Posts: 1,116	Very informative post, and thank you for taking the time to show this to us! Cheers, Chris

25 April 2007, 10:18 PM	#8
davor "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: davor Location: croatia Posts: 669	great info thank u very much nick

25 April 2007, 10:27 PM	#9
Erix "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nice, France Watch: D Sub date 16610 Posts: 929	Cool post... __________________ Nice is nice

25 April 2007, 10:34 PM	#10
Obsession Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Aykun Location: Istanbul/Turkey Watch: Tissot Seastar Posts: 804	I'm very very much disappointed after seeing the photos and 7800 in my mind really my mind is so mixed about Rolex and I remembered one sentence from a friend here, 'Anything that you see yellow on a Rolex is gold....' Upset...

25 April 2007, 10:44 PM	#12
Obsession Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Aykun Location: Istanbul/Turkey Watch: Tissot Seastar Posts: 804	Folex=)

26 April 2007, 12:19 AM	#15
nko51 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Alex Location: USA Watch: TT Blue Sub Posts: 2,542	I am starting to think that Rolex is starting to pull the wool over our eyes. What if the links are also only layered with gold. I would really be pissed if this was the case. __________________

26 April 2007, 01:40 AM	#19
Dr Rock "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Europe Posts: 58	Excellent post! Thankyou!

26 April 2007, 02:50 AM	#20
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	Nick, again another fantastic and informative post. Thank you again for posting this. __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

26 April 2007, 02:56 AM	#21
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	Keep 'em coming Nick. Not just Rolex though. If you've got a Patek on the chopping board let's see what it's made of. __________________ ..33

26 April 2007, 02:58 AM	#22
Fitchy Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Royston Location: Essex, England Watch: it! Posts: 145

26 April 2007, 04:18 AM	#23
mlb Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Chicago, Illinois Watch: DJ Posts: 753	Very informative, as always Nick! Makes you wonder... What else is plated Mike

26 April 2007, 04:24 AM	#24
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Not plated, Mike....that's an 18 K gold CAP. Guys, If you've read some of my previous posts, I have always maintained that anything YELLOW you see on a Rolex is 18 K gold. I was over the years made fully aware by several knowledgeable ADs that the crown of any gold or TT watch is an 18 K gold cap. It's only common sense that there's no way Rolex would use gold on the threads. That would be too soft and would crumble easily over a period of time. Pretty sure the base is solid steel with steel threads to match up with the steel threads on the stem. Thanks for the pictorial anyway, Nick....very nice. But it sure did hurt to see that gold capping being ripped away like that!! Cheers - JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

26 April 2007, 04:35 AM	#25
worktolivelife "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,365	interesting post!!!!!!! guess the crown/cap on my dayona is white gold, to be honest don't suppose i could tell the difference with regard that, case and bracelet are hallmarked!! steve BTW had a tag which is just plated 10 microns i think for nearly 16 yrs top quality!!! __________________ MEMBER NO.142

26 April 2007, 04:39 AM	#26
mikey "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: USA Watch: Oysterdate 6694 Posts: 2,713	It makes perfect sense for the crown to be capped in gold. The pure gold threads would bevel and wear very easily from adjusting the time or just tinkering around with your Rolex. I guess the Gold Cap shell of the Oyster Perpetual Date is an extension of the crown idea gold cap and steel center. Great scientific experiment.

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