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teddy gmt · 11 May 2007, 04:57 AM

Hi,
Anyone please help. It might sounds crazy for you guys but yes,I have to keep my RL in my pant pocket(front side) with me and carry around for a period of time due to some reasons. My question is, Is this gonna effect to any wheel or cause any damage to my watch? I raise this Q becuase once I got this new RL about last 2 weeks, I have put it in my pant pocket since then. I ve been kept checking the seconds almost everyday and it had gained around +10 sec ahead. Then last two days, it began to slow down or loose around to +2/+3 and even today is -2 sec behind.

Is this mean any sign of something happend

? or just usualy thing for self-winding watch or esp our favourite Rolex watch?
Please kindly help.. SO much appreciate you guys in advance!!

JJ Irani · 11 May 2007, 05:06 AM

Hi Teddy,

Welcome to TRF!

While I'm certainly no guru, I think I can understand what you're trying to say. I too have been guilty of placing my Rolex in my front pocket when I was doing some lifting and moving of heavy artefacts at the museum where I worked.

I was always in fear of scratching the clasp on some rough surface, so into the pocket it went.

However, this never affected my time keeping or the performance of the watch.

If you watch is still new and under warranty, I suggest you take it back to the AD where you bought it and have them regulate it. Not a big deal.

Good luck and hope you enjoy your stay here.

Cheers - JJ

teddy gmt · 11 May 2007, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Hi Teddy,

Welcome to TRF!

While I'm certainly no guru, I think I can understand what you're trying to say. I too have been guilty of placing my Rolex in my front pocket when I was doing some lifting and moving of heavy artefacts at the museum where I worked.

I was always in fear of scratching the clasp on some rough surface, so into the pocket it went.

However, this never affected my time keeping or the performance of the watch.

If you watch is still new and under warranty, I suggest you take it back to the AD where you bought it and have them regulate it. Not a big deal.

Good luck and hope you enjoy your stay here.

Cheers - JJ

Super thanks Uncle JJ

No, in deed, I feel you are the one!(Guru). So many Thankfull for ur quick help. Actually I do concern with it's mechanism uncle, for the surface,I m not worry cos I wrap it with very good covers.
So u can tell that it's okey to leave in that right? As I fear the leg movements might to much stronger comparing to hand or wrist's movement. And it gonna effect to some part or any wheel inside...?!?

What do u think sir..??

Thanks for welcome me too
Teddy

JJ Irani · 11 May 2007, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teddy gmt

Super thanks Uncle JJ

No, in deed, I feel you are the one!(Guru). So many Thankfull for ur quick help. Actually I do concern with it's mechanism uncle, for the surface,I m not worry cos I wrap it with very good covers.
So u can tell that it's okey to leave in that right? As I fear the leg movements might to much stronger comparing to hand or wrist's movement. And it gonna effect to some part or any wheel inside...?!?

What do u think sir..??

Thanks for welcome me too
Teddy

Hey Teddy,

Just call me "JJ"!! Thanks!!

I don't think that by placing the watch in your pocket should have any adverse effect on the time keeping.

You do need to take it back to your AD and have their watchmaker check it out....because the timing certainly is very erratic.

Please take it back....that's the only way we'll know for sure what the real problem is.

Good luck - JJ

teddy gmt · 11 May 2007, 05:25 AM

Very Sorry JJ,

Got it, thanks a lot!

JJ Irani · 11 May 2007, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teddy gmt

Very Sorry JJ,

Got it, thanks a lot!

No worries, my friend....but do keep us posted and updated on the outcome.

Cheers - JJ

haakon59 · 11 May 2007, 05:37 AM

Given that automatic watches are designed specifically for the wrist, I am not sure that keeping it in your pocket is going to result in good timekeeping. For one thing, the watch is going to be mainly in one position in your pocket. Pocket watches (I realize this was some time ago and that things have changed.) carried in the pocket often would eventually have one-sided wear that would affect timekeeping, hence the invention of the tourbillion, which is useful for pocket watches but have very little value for timekeeping in automatic wrist watches. You walk with your legs, I realize,
but you generally probably won't have the same types of rotation that you would get from wearing it on your wrist, so I would think winding with the rotor would be more difficult. Another thing that could happen (over time) is that the parts inside might wear down a bit to one side. Now I realize that Rolex makes fine movements which endure a lot of punishment pretty well, but I would hesitate on this one. Now if you work in an area where you would be taking a risk with wearing a wristwatch on your wrist, maybe you should wear a cheaper quartz during the day and keep that in your pocket but save the Rolex for after work wear only. That would just be my opinion.

Tombstone · 11 May 2007, 05:37 AM

I am guilty of the same practice. I put my Rolex in my front pocket when I want to keep it safe when lifting or working (quick jobs) or when I travel if I am in a shady part of town, I put my watch in the front pocket to keep from calling attention to myself. I have never noticed any time variations plus or minus. I think it could be hard on the bracelet rubbing together if it were an all day thing, for short periods of time I don't sweat it too much. Just my two cents worth.

JJ Irani · 11 May 2007, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone

I am guilty of the same practice. I put my Rolex in my front pocket when I want to keep it safe when lifting or working (quick jobs) or when I travel if I am in a shady part of town, I put my watch in the front pocket to keep from calling attention to myself. I have never noticed any time variations plus or minus. I think it could be hard on the bracelet rubbing together if it were an all day thing, for short periods of time I don't sweat it too much. Just my two cents worth.

You're right about one thing, Rich. Placing the watch in the pocket will have the clasp playing hell with the caseback!!

Best solution? Carry a small soft, lint-free cloth and wrap it around the watch in such a way that it comes inbetween the clasp and the caseback as a buffer to prevent the clasp from scratching the living daylights out of the caseback.

JJ

teddy gmt · 11 May 2007, 05:56 AM

Thanks u guys again...
I see...well, I think I have to replace it.

Good and great day!!

Goodwatch · 11 May 2007, 06:24 AM

Welcome to our fine forum Teddy. I wouldn’t worry too much about your Rolex’s timing under the circumstances you described. The final observation, plus minus 2 seconds a day is an excellent result and way within the specifications. If you really want to find out the timing you’ll have to start wearing the watch ‘round your wrist and start on day one by manually winding the watch to full capacity. Try putting the watch down at the same time before you retire for the evening and make notes of the time. Do this for a full week and alternate crown up and down every other day. If the average deviation is plus or minus 5 seconds a day, it still is within specs.

Remember that you watch is a little machine and even though the design of the movement has been kept as simple and robust as possible, it still is made from over 200 parts, many of them moving. Great choice for a watch, will serve you for many, many years.

teddy gmt · 12 May 2007, 04:55 AM

Thanks to " Goodwatch"
Thanks a lot to your advice,I ll try to do as what u mentioned.

U guys so generous!!

Goodwatch · 12 May 2007, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by teddy gmt

Thanks to " Goodwatch"
Thanks a lot to your advice,I ll try to do as what u mentioned.

U guys so generous!!

Don't mention it, we are here to help

JJ Irani · 12 May 2007, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Goodwatch

....we are here to help

Yeah right!!

Like you tossers ever help me!!

Prince · 12 May 2007, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Yeah right!!

Like you tossers ever help me!!

We help you along the road to perdition!

JJ Irani · 12 May 2007, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

We help you along the road to perdition!

Early Saturday morning and I have to sit here listening to words longer than FOUR letters from Class 1 tossers!!

C.J. · 12 May 2007, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Yeah right!!

Like you tossers ever help me!!

JJ, some things are just impossible. We're good here, but we can't work miracles

JJ Irani · 12 May 2007, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by C.J.

JJ, some things are just impossible. We're good here, but we can't work miracles

Another bloody tosser on a Saturday morning!!

Goodwatch · 12 May 2007, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Yeah right!!

Like you tossers ever help me!!

Yes, 'uncle guru'

Prince · 12 May 2007, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Early Saturday morning and I have to sit here listening to words longer than FOUR letters from Class 1 tossers!!

Well, would you rather have a Prez-type post like one of these?:
No.

Yes.

Gonzo beans.

*bunnie cry*

Goodwatch · 12 May 2007, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

Well, would you rather have a Prez-type post like one of these?:
No.

Yes.

Gonzo beans.

*bunnie cry*

Allan, please ignore that ingrate

He forgets that it is because of us he manages that insane number of useless posts! I'm looking forward to the next one allready: "Hey, I have tilted Subby 20 degrees and now I can see the hairs in my nose!"

Prince · 12 May 2007, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Goodwatch

...I'm looking forward to the next one allready: "Hey, I have tilted Subby 20 degrees and now I can see the hairs in my nose!"

LMAO

pcarson · 12 May 2007, 05:38 AM

Morning gents. I'm off to assault my local training hill on my mountain-bike, but it's nice to see the thread veering wildly away from topic in true TRF fashion. I once did a search for the word "tosser" and my computer blew up. That's why I love it here.

On a serious note (if you'll forgive me a digression) for teddygmt - Hey Teddy, don't forget that your Rolex's automatic movement is a refinement to the winding mechanism. As per posts above, sticking it down your pants will not give the same movements to the winder as your wrist would, and that could change its timekeeping behaviour. That said, it's still a watch and you can still just wind it three times a week, which will partially compensate. The physical wear issues you'll have to sort out as JJ suggests of course. You can't over-wind it as it has a neat protection against that.

I think Rolex could easily incorporate this thread into their marketing. Imagine the ad. Images of action-men sailing, golfing, racing cars and finally, stuffing their watch into their pants. Slogan "Rolex - You Can Stuff It, But You Won't Snuff It." Or, the shot could be a bit ambiguous - from behind so you're not sure where it's being stuffed. Slogan "Rolex- Still a Tool Watch"

Could I get a gig in the marketing department?

WES · 12 May 2007, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodwatch

I'm looking forward to the next one allready: "Hey, I have tilted Subby 20 degrees and now I can see the hairs in my nose!"

Dam it! Prince beat me to it!

WES · 12 May 2007, 07:49 AM

"Hey, I have tilted Subby 20 degrees and now I can see the hairs in my nose!"

And the thing that amazes me is that if JJ did post that, there would be 85 replies to it!!!

Not that you would post anything so silly JJ.

(You hear Bill snicker as he walks away)

Goodwatch · 12 May 2007, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcarson

Morning gents. I'm off to assault my local training hill on my mountain-bike, but it's nice to see the thread veering wildly away from topic in true TRF fashion. I once did a search for the word "tosser" and my computer blew up. That's why I love it here.

On a serious note (if you'll forgive me a digression) for teddygmt - Hey Teddy, don't forget that your Rolex's automatic movement is a refinement to the winding mechanism. As per posts above, sticking it down your pants will not give the same movements to the winder as your wrist would, and that could change its timekeeping behaviour. That said, it's still a watch and you can still just wind it three times a week, which will partially compensate. The physical wear issues you'll have to sort out as JJ suggests of course. You can't over-wind it as it has a neat protection against that.

I think Rolex could easily incorporate this thread into their marketing. Imagine the ad. Images of action-men sailing, golfing, racing cars and finally, stuffing their watch into their pants. Slogan "Rolex - You Can Stuff It, But You Won't Snuff It." Or, the shot could be a bit ambiguous - from behind so you're not sure where it's being stuffed. Slogan "Rolex- Still a Tool Watch"

Could I get a gig in the marketing department?

You are actually raising an unanswered question. Are Rolex SA lurking on forums like TRF? Are they taking notes? Not that I am so vain to believe that TRF is important enough. But learning from customer’s comments first hand is the best thing since sliced bread for any manufacturer. Great show guys, we are ‘da bomb’.

Goodwatch · 12 May 2007, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by WES

Damn it! Prince beat me to it!

Allan and I form a Vet tag team

pcarson · 12 May 2007, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodwatch

You are actually raising an unanswered question. Are Rolex SA lurking on forums like TRF? Are they taking notes? Not that I am so vain to believe that TRF is important enough. But learning from customer’s comments first hand is the best thing since sliced bread for any manufacturer. Great show guys, we are ‘da bomb’.

Gee, I didn't mean to do anything serious. I was being a clown. A man has to have a hobby, but now you've got me thinking...

Goodwatch · 12 May 2007, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcarson

Gee, I didn't mean to do anything serious. I was being a clown. A man has to have a hobby, but now you've got me thinking...

You are right. Now put on a dunce cap and stand in the corner!

Prince · 12 May 2007, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Goodwatch

Allan and I form a Vet tag team

Absolutely, my friend!

11 May 2007, 04:57 AM	#1
teddy gmt Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Thailand Posts: 28	To JJ or other guru..Keep my RL in pant's pocket gonna cuase any problem? Hi, Anyone please help. It might sounds crazy for you guys but yes,I have to keep my RL in my pant pocket(front side) with me and carry around for a period of time due to some reasons. My question is, Is this gonna effect to any wheel or cause any damage to my watch? I raise this Q becuase once I got this new RL about last 2 weeks, I have put it in my pant pocket since then. I ve been kept checking the seconds almost everyday and it had gained around +10 sec ahead. Then last two days, it began to slow down or loose around to +2/+3 and even today is -2 sec behind. Is this mean any sign of something happend ? or just usualy thing for self-winding watch or esp our favourite Rolex watch? Please kindly help.. SO much appreciate you guys in advance!!

11 May 2007, 05:06 AM	#2
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Hi Teddy, Welcome to TRF! While I'm certainly no guru, I think I can understand what you're trying to say. I too have been guilty of placing my Rolex in my front pocket when I was doing some lifting and moving of heavy artefacts at the museum where I worked. I was always in fear of scratching the clasp on some rough surface, so into the pocket it went. However, this never affected my time keeping or the performance of the watch. If you watch is still new and under warranty, I suggest you take it back to the AD where you bought it and have them regulate it. Not a big deal. Good luck and hope you enjoy your stay here. Cheers - JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

11 May 2007, 05:25 AM	#5
teddy gmt Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Thailand Posts: 28	thanks again Very Sorry JJ, Got it, thanks a lot!

11 May 2007, 06:24 AM	#11
Goodwatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Real Name: Frans ® Location: Rotterdam Watch: the sunrise... Posts: 10,230	Welcome to our fine forum Teddy. I wouldn’t worry too much about your Rolex’s timing under the circumstances you described. The final observation, plus minus 2 seconds a day is an excellent result and way within the specifications. If you really want to find out the timing you’ll have to start wearing the watch ‘round your wrist and start on day one by manually winding the watch to full capacity. Try putting the watch down at the same time before you retire for the evening and make notes of the time. Do this for a full week and alternate crown up and down every other day. If the average deviation is plus or minus 5 seconds a day, it still is within specs. Remember that you watch is a little machine and even though the design of the movement has been kept as simple and robust as possible, it still is made from over 200 parts, many of them moving. Great choice for a watch, will serve you for many, many years. __________________ Member# 127

11 May 2007, 05:37 AM	#7
haakon59 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,571	Given that automatic watches are designed specifically for the wrist, I am not sure that keeping it in your pocket is going to result in good timekeeping. For one thing, the watch is going to be mainly in one position in your pocket. Pocket watches (I realize this was some time ago and that things have changed.) carried in the pocket often would eventually have one-sided wear that would affect timekeeping, hence the invention of the tourbillion, which is useful for pocket watches but have very little value for timekeeping in automatic wrist watches. You walk with your legs, I realize, but you generally probably won't have the same types of rotation that you would get from wearing it on your wrist, so I would think winding with the rotor would be more difficult. Another thing that could happen (over time) is that the parts inside might wear down a bit to one side. Now I realize that Rolex makes fine movements which endure a lot of punishment pretty well, but I would hesitate on this one. Now if you work in an area where you would be taking a risk with wearing a wristwatch on your wrist, maybe you should wear a cheaper quartz during the day and keep that in your pocket but save the Rolex for after work wear only. That would just be my opinion.

11 May 2007, 05:37 AM	#8
Tombstone "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Richard Location: LV, NV Watch: LV Sub and others Posts: 2,689	I am guilty of the same practice. I put my Rolex in my front pocket when I want to keep it safe when lifting or working (quick jobs) or when I travel if I am in a shady part of town, I put my watch in the front pocket to keep from calling attention to myself. I have never noticed any time variations plus or minus. I think it could be hard on the bracelet rubbing together if it were an all day thing, for short periods of time I don't sweat it too much. Just my two cents worth.

11 May 2007, 05:56 AM	#10
teddy gmt Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Thailand Posts: 28	Thanks u guys again... I see...well, I think I have to replace it. Good and great day!!

12 May 2007, 04:55 AM	#12
teddy gmt Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Thailand Posts: 28	Thanks to " Goodwatch" Thanks a lot to your advice,I ll try to do as what u mentioned. U guys so generous!!

12 May 2007, 05:38 AM	#23
pcarson Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Peter Carson Location: Australia Watch: 16610 Sub Date Posts: 265	Morning gents. I'm off to assault my local training hill on my mountain-bike, but it's nice to see the thread veering wildly away from topic in true TRF fashion. I once did a search for the word "tosser" and my computer blew up. That's why I love it here. On a serious note (if you'll forgive me a digression) for teddygmt - Hey Teddy, don't forget that your Rolex's automatic movement is a refinement to the winding mechanism. As per posts above, sticking it down your pants will not give the same movements to the winder as your wrist would, and that could change its timekeeping behaviour. That said, it's still a watch and you can still just wind it three times a week, which will partially compensate. The physical wear issues you'll have to sort out as JJ suggests of course. You can't over-wind it as it has a neat protection against that. I think Rolex could easily incorporate this thread into their marketing. Imagine the ad. Images of action-men sailing, golfing, racing cars and finally, stuffing their watch into their pants. Slogan "Rolex - You Can Stuff It, But You Won't Snuff It." Or, the shot could be a bit ambiguous - from behind so you're not sure where it's being stuffed. Slogan "Rolex- Still a Tool Watch" Could I get a gig in the marketing department?

12 May 2007, 07:49 AM	#25
WES Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: Massachusetts Watch: Rolex Posts: 245	"Hey, I have tilted Subby 20 degrees and now I can see the hairs in my nose!" And the thing that amazes me is that if JJ did post that, there would be 85 replies to it!!! Not that you would post anything so silly JJ. (You hear Bill snicker as he walks away)

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