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les_canadiens · 27 June 2011, 04:36 PM

Hi All,

Just want to ask your opinions regarding these two watches.

I got an offer of A Series 16520 Black Dial Daytona (watch only + certification from RSC) with a higher price than a BNIB Daytona 116520.

Which one would you choose and why?

Thanks in advance

hoops10 · 27 June 2011, 05:02 PM

I am not an expert only a person that recently purchased a BNIB White SS Daytona 116520. I personally do not purchase with the idea of collectibility. I purchase what I like and want to wear. My preference is always to purchase new if I can afford. In this instance, for me, the call would not even be close. I would purchase the cheaper BNIB 116520 long before I would pay more for the preowned 16520. Also if is my understanding that the movement in the 116520 is one of the best ever made. Good luck and either way enjoy your purchase.

dddrees · 27 June 2011, 07:23 PM

I personally would not pay more for a SS Zenith Daytona than a brand new SS Daytona.

HL65 · 27 June 2011, 07:26 PM

No question for me Zenith. To me represents the best of both worlds- a modern look with a vintage feel about it.

padi56 · 27 June 2011, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by les_canadiens

Hi All,

Just want to ask your opinions regarding these two watches.

I got an offer of A Series 16520 Black Dial Daytona (watch only + certification from RSC) with a higher price than a BNIB Daytona 116520.

Which one would you choose and why?

Thanks in advance

Well at the moment Zenith Daytona are at a premium price,and IMHO will always be the more collectible in todays market.Myself not a huge fan of the modern day Daytona but I prefer the Zenith dial over the in-house dial.But both very fine movements a very fine chronographs.

rok14eva · 27 June 2011, 07:37 PM

Brand new 116520 because you'll be the first one to wear it.

truetime · 27 June 2011, 09:17 PM

16520 for me..... just look at its dial :)

Bests,
Krit

les_canadiens · 27 June 2011, 09:23 PM

The Zenith is somehow more collectible, of course ask for more money.
It's just the A series it's very rare to see but it's only the watch with rsc receipt for authentication compare to a BNIB 11650. Hard, hard to decide.

Other than the markers being small, slight alignment of the dials and brushed lugs, anybody can give me more pointers?

Movement wise anybody pro 4030 vs 4130?

I know it's been discussed to death in this forum, however, I really appreciate your guys' opinions.

I am not an expert in Daytona; It's just I got smitten when I tried on a BNIB Black 116520 and could not get the feeling off my head. They also look good on my wife wrist. She was also smitten by Black Dial Daytona.

dpkong · 27 June 2011, 10:07 PM

you ain't the only one. i'm also stuck between 16523/4030 and 116520/4130. though slightly different, i still can't quite make up my mind which to go with. i am not buying collectibles. i just want a good daily wearer.

Casey VP-26 · 27 June 2011, 10:17 PM

Zenith 16520. Just a nice watch and sort of vintage.

landroverking · 27 June 2011, 10:23 PM

Zenith

SWIMPRUF · 27 June 2011, 10:29 PM

BNIB 116520 for me. Brandnew and fresh from the assembly line...

yessir69 · 27 June 2011, 10:31 PM

Sold my new one and got a 16520. Never been happier.

HPY · 27 June 2011, 10:33 PM

116520 for me

Mikel212 · 28 June 2011, 12:21 AM

Looks like its so far 50/50. Maybe a survey would help.

For me, a new watch is like a new car, its only new for one day. You put a little scratch on that new watch, and its no different then the 16520.

I choose the 16520 for two reasons:

-Eventhough its a little harder to read then the 116520, the contrast of the black sub-dials make the face more attractive.
- "A" 16520 is more collectable. Anyone can buy the modern Daytona. Just look on Ebay.
Either movement is top notch especially to an ordinary wearer. You may not consider selling it now, but when you buy a new car, you dont consider its resale value, until its time to sell it. Down the line, you MAY sell, and an "A" series Zenith will fetch you a better price, if not more.

Passionata · 28 June 2011, 12:23 AM

116520
in house
better mvmnt

Tools · 28 June 2011, 01:08 AM

I like the Zenith models, but I wouldn't pay more for one (or even the same price) than a new 116520..

There are plenty of them around, they're not a rare collectible; so if you want a zenith Daytona, keep looking for the right price.. Between the two as you describe, the modern watch is the better buy.......

drtooth73 · 28 June 2011, 01:21 AM

for daily wear, definitely a newer Daytona, the clasp is much better, the markers/hands are more legible.
for collectability or hopes of appreciation, the Zenith Daytona

WylanB · 28 June 2011, 02:25 AM

I prefer the zenith but it is not worth more than a bnib 116520 without the box and papers. I'd buy BNIB.

Art 1 · 28 June 2011, 06:24 AM

A series but at a better price than you are talking about.

kcmo · 28 June 2011, 06:29 AM

I prefer the look of the 116520 which is what I have.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 28 June 2011, 06:39 AM

Zenith for me.

Yazo · 28 June 2011, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

No question for me Zenith. To me represents the best of both worlds- a modern look with a vintage feel about it.

You said it my friend!!!

nauticajoe · 28 June 2011, 08:14 AM

When it comes to the black dial I prefer the 116520, but the 16520 in the white dial.

skyedog · 28 June 2011, 08:19 AM

16520 of course.

Yudi · 28 June 2011, 09:26 AM

get the 16520 you can always save up to get the 116520 , i had the chance to get L series 16520 but i bought F series 116520 instead and regret it till now

phiengin · 28 June 2011, 09:40 AM

16520

les_canadiens · 28 June 2011, 12:41 PM

I am trying to negotiate with the A series 16520 but they won't back down as the price is quite significant over the premium BNIB 116520.

Zenith 16520 really drives me crazy. They won't move for an inch.

Dang!!

Starwalker · 28 June 2011, 12:48 PM

BNIB Daytona 116520. It's new. The Black dial looks amazing (I'm biased) lol....you have all the upgrades.....it's pretty much the exact same watch as the zenith, same shape and etc....except for the movement obviously....unless it was a proper vintage..like a 6263,6239, etc, etc.....plus the 4130 movement is supposed to extremely highly regarded!

les_canadiens · 1 July 2011, 02:51 AM

The sellers asked for 75% more than a BNIB 116520!
Can't believe it.

27 June 2011, 04:36 PM	#1
les_canadiens "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: J. Scofield Location: SE Asia Watch: Mechanical Posts: 77	Daytona 16520 A Series vs BNIB Daytona 116520 Hi All, Just want to ask your opinions regarding these two watches. I got an offer of A Series 16520 Black Dial Daytona (watch only + certification from RSC) with a higher price than a BNIB Daytona 116520. Which one would you choose and why? Thanks in advance

27 June 2011, 07:23 PM	#3
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	I personally would not pay more for a SS Zenith Daytona than a brand new SS Daytona. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

27 June 2011, 07:26 PM	#4
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	No question for me Zenith. To me represents the best of both worlds- a modern look with a vintage feel about it. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

27 June 2011, 07:37 PM	#6
rok14eva "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Ken Kim Location: Washington Watch: 116520 & SS DJ Posts: 27	Brand new 116520 because you'll be the first one to wear it. __________________ Current Collection: SS Datejust White SS Daytona SMP

27 June 2011, 10:29 PM	#12
SWIMPRUF "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: * Posts: 2,323	BNIB 116520 for me. Brandnew and fresh from the assembly line... __________________ Member# 52,675 Est. 3/2011

27 June 2011, 05:02 PM	#2
hoops10 Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: USA Posts: 325	I am not an expert only a person that recently purchased a BNIB White SS Daytona 116520. I personally do not purchase with the idea of collectibility. I purchase what I like and want to wear. My preference is always to purchase new if I can afford. In this instance, for me, the call would not even be close. I would purchase the cheaper BNIB 116520 long before I would pay more for the preowned 16520. Also if is my understanding that the movement in the 116520 is one of the best ever made. Good luck and either way enjoy your purchase.

27 June 2011, 09:17 PM	#7
truetime "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Krit Location: GMT +0 Watch: 1652055131675 Posts: 302	16520 for me..... just look at its dial :) Bests, Krit

27 June 2011, 09:23 PM	#8
les_canadiens "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: J. Scofield Location: SE Asia Watch: Mechanical Posts: 77	The Zenith is somehow more collectible, of course ask for more money. It's just the A series it's very rare to see but it's only the watch with rsc receipt for authentication compare to a BNIB 11650. Hard, hard to decide. Other than the markers being small, slight alignment of the dials and brushed lugs, anybody can give me more pointers? Movement wise anybody pro 4030 vs 4130? I know it's been discussed to death in this forum, however, I really appreciate your guys' opinions. I am not an expert in Daytona; It's just I got smitten when I tried on a BNIB Black 116520 and could not get the feeling off my head. They also look good on my wife wrist. She was also smitten by Black Dial Daytona.

27 June 2011, 10:07 PM	#9
dpkong "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Don Location: Borneo Watch: it! Posts: 864	you ain't the only one. i'm also stuck between 16523/4030 and 116520/4130. though slightly different, i still can't quite make up my mind which to go with. i am not buying collectibles. i just want a good daily wearer.

27 June 2011, 10:17 PM	#10
Casey VP-26 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: America Posts: 2,721	Zenith 16520. Just a nice watch and sort of vintage.

27 June 2011, 10:23 PM	#11
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	Zenith

27 June 2011, 10:31 PM	#13
yessir69 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 3,289	Sold my new one and got a 16520. Never been happier.

27 June 2011, 10:33 PM	#14
HPY Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: PH Watch: Daytona Posts: 213	116520 for me

28 June 2011, 12:21 AM	#15
Mikel212 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 228	Down the line Looks like its so far 50/50. Maybe a survey would help. For me, a new watch is like a new car, its only new for one day. You put a little scratch on that new watch, and its no different then the 16520. I choose the 16520 for two reasons: -Eventhough its a little harder to read then the 116520, the contrast of the black sub-dials make the face more attractive. - "A" 16520 is more collectable. Anyone can buy the modern Daytona. Just look on Ebay. Either movement is top notch especially to an ordinary wearer. You may not consider selling it now, but when you buy a new car, you dont consider its resale value, until its time to sell it. Down the line, you MAY sell, and an "A" series Zenith will fetch you a better price, if not more.

28 June 2011, 12:23 AM	#16
Passionata "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: the girls Posts: 7,095	116520 in house better mvmnt __________________ Best George "Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston --------------------- newhttps://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE new http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ IG @passionata1

28 June 2011, 01:08 AM	#17
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	I like the Zenith models, but I wouldn't pay more for one (or even the same price) than a new 116520.. There are plenty of them around, they're not a rare collectible; so if you want a zenith Daytona, keep looking for the right price.. Between the two as you describe, the modern watch is the better buy....... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

28 June 2011, 01:21 AM	#18
drtooth73 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: W. Stutman Location: Motor City Watch: TT GMT IIC Posts: 2,223	for daily wear, definitely a newer Daytona, the clasp is much better, the markers/hands are more legible. for collectability or hopes of appreciation, the Zenith Daytona

28 June 2011, 02:25 AM	#19
WylanB "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tampa Bay Area Watch: 16520, 16600 Posts: 42	I prefer the zenith but it is not worth more than a bnib 116520 without the box and papers. I'd buy BNIB.

28 June 2011, 06:24 AM	#20
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	A series but at a better price than you are talking about.

28 June 2011, 06:29 AM	#21
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	I prefer the look of the 116520 which is what I have.

28 June 2011, 06:39 AM	#22
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Zenith for me. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

28 June 2011, 08:14 AM	#24
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	When it comes to the black dial I prefer the 116520, but the 16520 in the white dial.

28 June 2011, 08:19 AM	#25
skyedog "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Joey Location: around the Bay Watch: ing TRF Posts: 1,942	16520 of course.

28 June 2011, 09:26 AM	#26
Yudi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Yudi Location: Indonesia Watch: Rolex, PP Posts: 21	get the 16520 you can always save up to get the 116520 , i had the chance to get L series 16520 but i bought F series 116520 instead and regret it till now

28 June 2011, 09:40 AM	#27
phiengin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: California Watch: 1680, 1675 Posts: 343	16520

28 June 2011, 12:41 PM	#28
les_canadiens "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: J. Scofield Location: SE Asia Watch: Mechanical Posts: 77	I am trying to negotiate with the A series 16520 but they won't back down as the price is quite significant over the premium BNIB 116520. Zenith 16520 really drives me crazy. They won't move for an inch. Dang!!

28 June 2011, 12:48 PM	#29
Starwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: aroundtheworld Watch: SS Daytona - BLACK Posts: 2,261	BNIB Daytona 116520. It's new. The Black dial looks amazing (I'm biased) lol....you have all the upgrades.....it's pretty much the exact same watch as the zenith, same shape and etc....except for the movement obviously....unless it was a proper vintage..like a 6263,6239, etc, etc.....plus the 4130 movement is supposed to extremely highly regarded! __________________ 116520 Black - 116500 White - 116713LN - 116613LB - Panerai 389 - Chopard Mille Miglia GMT Chronograph - Chopard LUC Sport 2000 - Moser Pioneer Centre Seconds

1 July 2011, 02:51 AM	#30
les_canadiens "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: J. Scofield Location: SE Asia Watch: Mechanical Posts: 77	The sellers asked for 75% more than a BNIB 116520! Can't believe it.

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