Rehaut

[mairj23]

I just noticed that the Rolex crown logo on my engraved rehaut doesnt line up at 12. I havent seen another one in photos like this. Can a RSC fix this? Or is this just a missed quality control by Rolex?

[cedargrove]

Pic?

[Bigboss]

Mine doesn't line up either (Sub LV) ...Don't worry. It doesn't matter.

[Megalobyte]

I wouldn't recommend opening up your watch for this. There's a chance you'll get it back with something else you notice, perhaps worse.

[T-Rip]

The "R" should line up perfectly with the 9'oclock position mark..

[mairj23]

Yeah figured it didnt matter.. haydendillon- yes the R and 9:00 lines up, is that whats really supposed to line up?

[mairj23]

Megalobyte- You are right. Heck no, not opening up watch until service.

[Brad21]

That's the thing that pisses me off. With the money they demand for their watches and they can't seem to make that consistent. They invented that, which I think was a fantastic idea, but can't seem to get them right every time. The fakes don't line up always either.

[Speed]

This topic comes up from time to time.

Yes. Now and again, the crown - and then of course the other letters - do not like up perfectly. Personally, that would bug me. Not a huge fan of the engraving, but the only way to avoid it is to buy old.

If you just bought the watch, you can try to get your AD to exchange it.

[moviefreak]

I thought if they do not line up there is no fix.... since the engraving is also part of the case... so no way to line them up... but I can be wrong..

[bkandj2000]

The watch is completely defective unless the crown logo on the rehaut lines up perfectly at 12 o'clock and the crown logo is perfectly right-side up when fully wound on the stem. Lemon.

[T-Rip]

Originally Posted by mairj23

Yeah figured it didnt matter.. haydendillon- yes the R and 9:00 lines up, is that whats really supposed to line up?

Yeah. It's one of the more little known tricks that rolex used to detect counterfeit pieces.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by mairj23

I just noticed that the Rolex crown logo on my engraved rehaut doesnt line up at 12. I havent seen another one in photos like this. Can a RSC fix this? Or is this just a missed quality control by Rolex?

Who or what says its got to line up, have not seen anything in any Rolex documentation about this.Rolex makes thousands of cases its a very very minor cosmetic detail we are talking about a deviation of a cats whisker.Just because the pictures in things like the brochure show all crown etc lined up and hands set at 11 minutes past ten,this dont always happen in the real world.

[bondtoys]

Eduardo is right. The rehaut is part of the body and NOT a separate part.
Could it be that the position of the dial (movement) is not perfect?

On my SubC the crown perfectly sits at 12:00 and the R at 9:00 and I would be totally annoyed, if that would not be the case.

I dislike the engraving to a high degree but at least it should be perfectly positioned.

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by moviefreak

I thought if they do not line up there is no fix.... since the engraving is also part of the case... so no way to line them up... but I can be wrong..

could it be that the dial is slightly out of position?

either way, i don't buy the "it's just a cosmetic thing, no big deal" argument....if it bothers OP, then it's legitimate. how many problems should be argued away just because it's a "little error"?

personally, i've never looked at the position of the rehaut until today, thanks to the post, LOL, but, i was happy to see the crown and the "R" ligned up perfectly.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by padi56

Who or what says its got to line up, have not seen anything in any Rolex documentation about this.Rolex makes thousands of cases its a very very minor cosmetic detail we are talking about a deviation of a cats whisker.Just because the pictures in things like the brochure show all crown etc lined up and hands set at 11 minutes past ten,this dont always happen in the real world.

It's also good to know that your own Rolex is not exactly the same as all the others.

All my watches, not just Rolex watches, have something that is different from another of the same model. Some differences are easy to see and some need a loupe.
Either way all my watches are 'different' from others. Just like my pets, ex-wives, children, cars, etc, etc.
It's good to know.

[rms]

I have 2 Rolexes with the engraved rehaut. I didn't know any of the text was supposed to line-up with anything and honestly it never occurred to me to look.

Besides, I'm way to busy trying to get the minute hand to line up exactly with the twelve when the second hand goes by as well as trying to get the triangle on my subs to line up exactly at 12 o'clock to bother with something so silly as looking to see if the rehaut is lined-up properly.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by directioneng

It's also good to know that your own Rolex is not exactly the same as all the others.

All my watches, not just Rolex watches, have something that is different from another of the same model. Some differences are easy to see and some need a loupe.
Either way all my watches are 'different' from others. Just like my pets, ex-wives, children, cars, etc, etc.
It's good to know.

How true Eddie but today a loupe to many new Rolex watch owners can be there worst enemy.With anything thats mass produced there will be tiny differences, its like asking for the loco"s to all line up upright on your car tyres every time you stop and park.First it was the holograms stickers,and later the Rolex crown emblem must be 100% perfect upright,after that the LEC crystal must find it at all costs, and now the Rolex Rolex Rolex line up on the rehaut.Thank you Rolex and the Internet for all these tiny Rolex idiosyncrasies wonder whats happened to the important things like the movements and history of the Rolex brand.

Originally Posted by haydendillon

The "R" should line up perfectly with the 9'oclock position mark..

Have you any documentation where it states that or is just Internet banter or just like pictures in a brochure.

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by padi56

Thank you Rolex and the Internet for all these tiny Rolex idiosyncrasies wonder whats happened to the important things like the movements and history of the Rolex brand.

Well, the movement is all-important, and anyone will notice if the watch isn't keeping time. But, you don't see the movement, you just take it for granted. After all, it's a "Rolex".

And history? People buy Rolex for many reasons, including history.

But, as far as cosmetic quality control problems, I think the issue is that at these prices, people simply expect more and notice "little things" like mis-aligned engravings. I'm not sure why that's a bad thing and, anyway, it's inevitable when you start pushing $8/10K for a SS watch.

If the lesson is that Rolex has always had these "little issues", so, don't worry about it or go buy a non-mass-produced watch for lots more money, fine, but, to minimize legitimate concerns because you don't think it's a "big deal" isn't fair, IMHO.

Just my two cents...

[bondtoys]

Additionally, it's not rocket science - in times of mass-production - to place the engravement exactly on the same position.

Just a matter to fix the body correctly and the (assumably) laser engraver does the job in a constant way.

[mairj23]

It doesnt really bother me... the crown logo is hairs away from the 12:00. The only reason I thought to look was that every watch shown on the Rolex website was perfectly lined up, so I figured thats whats supposed to be. I guess when you pay as much as you do for a Rolex, you expect perfection... maybe not a good apprpach to take?

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Well, the movement is all-important, and anyone will notice if the watch isn't keeping time. But, you don't see the movement, you just take it for granted. After all, it's a "Rolex".

And history? People buy Rolex for many reasons, including history.

But, as far as cosmetic quality control problems, I think the issue is that at these prices, people simply expect more and notice "little things" like mis-aligned engravings. I'm not sure why that's a bad thing and, anyway, it's inevitable when you start pushing $8/10K for a SS watch.

If the lesson is that Rolex has always had these "little issues", so, don't worry about it or go buy a non-mass-produced watch for lots more money, fine, but, to minimize legitimate concerns because you don't think it's a "big deal" isn't fair, IMHO.

Just my two cents...

Is there anything in writing to say what these branding Rolex Rolex fonts are supposed to be aligned too.Or is it because they look like it in the Rolex brochure pictures and on the Rolex web site.Just like all the crown emblems are straight up and the hands are set at 11 minutes past 10 in the pictures.But we all know this is not always the case in reality when we buy a Rolex watch.

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by padi56

Is there anything in writing to say what these branding Rolex Rolex fonts are supposed to be aligned too.Or is it because they look like it in the Rolex brochure pictures and on the Rolex web site.

not that i'm aware of, but, given the marketing pictures and a dash of common sense, you'd think that's how it's supposed to go. at any rate, "slightly off" doesn't seem like a very high standard to aspire to....

Originally Posted by padi56

Just like all the crown emblems are straight up and the hands are set at 11 minutes past 10 in the pictures.But we all know this is not always the case in reality when we buy a Rolex watch.

[rolexertion]

Is the R O L E X on the rehaut printed in ink? Did you pick the watch up 'cheap' from a guy in trenchcoat down on Canal St.?

[springbar]

Originally Posted by padi56

Is there anything in writing to say what these branding Rolex Rolex fonts are supposed to be aligned too.Or is it because they look like it in the Rolex brochure pictures and on the Rolex web site.Just like all the crown emblems are straight up and the hands are set at 11 minutes past 10 in the pictures.But we all know this is not always the case in reality when we buy a Rolex watch.

The rehaut engraving is not a moving part. It's a symmetrical, repeating pattern with features that repeat exactly every 1/12th of a circle, and a single Rolex logo 180 degrees opposite the serial number. It is depicted this way in all corporate communication, including service manuals. It's part of the case frame. Let's quit pretending it isn't supposed to align with the watch dial. It is.

The only question is "how off is it?"

[youngr]

Mine is just off but it doesnt really bother me

[expy2]

Guys, it is one hundred percent cosmetic! I guarantee the engraving is perfect (it's done with laser accuracy), what you are seeing is a slight dial misalignment. You are measuring it against the sixty minute marker on the dial, and if the dial is slighty misaligned it will make the crown appear off. I know this because my sub was bang on before it went in for warranty work, however, when I got it back it was slightly off. Annoying I know, but nothing is perfect. Before you say 'why didn't you get them to sort it', trust me, with the horrors I had to endure I was just glad to get the damn thing back in one piece!

[padi56]

Originally Posted by springbar

The rehaut engraving is not a moving part. It's a symmetrical, repeating pattern with features that repeat exactly every 1/12th of a circle, and a single Rolex logo 180 degrees opposite the serial number. It is depicted this way in all corporate communication, including service manuals. It's part of the case frame. Let's quit pretending it isn't supposed to align with the watch dial. It is.

The only question is "how off is it?"

Dials are usual held in place by what they call the dial feet that fit into holes on the movement plate which all Rolex have.And will only fit one way and when fitted will not move, as they are secured by dial feet screws that normally feature an eccentric collar.As for the dial well its round and have markers painted like the baton minute hour markers and it only fits where ever the dial feet are on the main movement plate..

[expy2]

Originally Posted by expy2

Guys, it is one hundred percent cosmetic! I guarantee the engraving is perfect (it's done with laser accuracy), what you are seeing is a slight dial misalignment. You are measuring it against the sixty minute marker on the dial, and if the dial is slighty misaligned it will make the crown appear off. I know this because my sub was bang on before it went in for warranty work, however, when I got it back it was slightly off. Annoying I know, but nothing is perfect. Before you say 'why didn't you get them to sort it', trust me, with the horrors I had to endure I was just glad to get the damn thing back in one piece!

Just to clear this one up, when I say 'dial' I mean as a whole. i.e. When it has been attached to the movement. Therefore, it would be more accurate if you subtract 'dial' and insert 'complete movement' from my earlier post. This has to have some 'adjustment' so that the crown stem can be correctly aligned. It doesn't take much for that twelve o' clock crown to be slightly off.

[springbar]

Originally Posted by padi56

Dials are usual held in place by what they call the dial feet that fit into holes on the movement plate which all Rolex have.And will only fit one way and when fitted will not move, as they are secured by dial feet screws that normally feature an eccentric collar.As for the dial well its round and have markers painted like the baton minute hour markers and it only fits where ever the dial feet are on the main movement plate..

I'm assuming your response was intended for expy2.