Pepsi GMT 16750 or 16700 (or maybe 16710)

[sepcreek]

Hello All,

Looking for a nice Pepsi GMT.

Just wondering your preferences for the abovementioned Pepsi GMT's.

Which do you prefer and why?

Thanks in anticipation,

Tony

[springer]

I prefer the quick-set GMT 16750 and the quick-set sapphire crystal GMT 16700 to the GMT II 16710. While the 16710 is considered a quick-set compared to the GMT 1675, it takes a several rotations of the hour hand to change the date. The date can re-set much quicker on the GMT II than the older 1675's, but the 16750 and 16700 are true quick-set GMT's. The "fat lady" GMT II 16760 also sets the date like the 16710, with several rotations of the hour hand.

I wear a matt-dialed 16750 daily. You've chosen some nice GMT's to grace your wrist, good luck with your decision.

[Jason71]

Adding to what John said, the 16700 can sometimes be found for a real bargain if you look hard enough. I honestly prefer mine to my 16710. Ooops.

[Newportkrieger]

I too prefer the 16750 and the 16700. My daily wear watch is a Rolex 16700 and I have two 16750's, a 16713 and a 1675 so I am familar with your choices. I think the 16700 is the best of both worlds:

- original GMT function
- quickset date
- bulletproof sapphire crystal
- 16700 can be had for very good prices in very good condition but you have to look for them as they are becomming less and less common.
- I reccomend you look for alate "U" or "A" series with the "swiss" lume dial.

In favor of the 16750
- true vintage watch with "plastic" crystal
- available with matte dial or gloss depending on preference
- quckset date

Both the 16700 and the 16750 will serve you well.

[Flyjet601]

16750 for me.....best of both worlds! Vintage and modern all in one

[springer]

One advantage of the 16750 vs the 16700 is that scratches are easy to remove from the acrylic crystals. The sapphire crystal, while not prone to scratch, is far from bulletproof, as it will scratch and breaks or chips easier than the acrylic crystal. That has been my experience and why I wear the 16750 - and don't ask me how I know!

Also, if you are looking for something newer, the 16700 GMT was made until around 1999 and the 16750 was discontinued around 1985.

[dddrees]

I decided to go with the 16710. A bit more modern but it still has lug holes.

[mike]

Any of the three references will serve you well and given both the 16750 and 16700 use a 3xxx fast beat movement servicing won't present the problem (with the mothership) 15xx movments references might down the road.

That said a few personal preferences must be factored in.

1. Do you want a true quickset feature?

If so the 16750 and 16700 are your choices. I personally don't think the 16710 takes a backseat here with it's jump hour feature and the ability to tell local time off the dial as opposed to the insert is nice if you travel.

2. Is a measure of luminosity a consideration?

The 16710 is the choice here. (perhaps a late 16700?) True a service replacenet dial on the earlier references will render that moot, but consider the impact as to altering the watch from it's original condition.

Note: Personally I think doing this to an early matt 16750 isn't an option as the loss in value is more than the others.

3. Acryllic or sapphire?

Both have their advantages. Sapphire is certainly easier to maintain, but acryllic speaks to an earlier era we will never see again.

Good luck!

[Puffy]

16710 for me

[sepcreek]

Thanks Guys for your very helpful responses. Very much appreciated.

I'm favouring the 16750 but not by much over the 16700.

Probably will depend upon which comes up first in nice condition.

Would you always buy a vintage with box and papers?

Best,

Tony

[Michael M.]

16750 for me, it's a modern classic IMHO!

[springer]

Originally Posted by sepcreek

Thanks Guys for your very helpful responses. Very much appreciated.

I'm favouring the 16750 but not by much over the 16700.

Probably will depend upon which comes up first in nice condition.

Would you always buy a vintage with box and papers?

Best,

Tony

Box and papers on a vintage Rolex GMT will definitely add to the value, now and in the future. Of course it will cost you more now to find a complete 16750 with the original warranty paper and accessories. Most collectors like the complete package, others are happy with just the watch. Prices can range from $3500 for the watch and go as high as $5000 for a nice watch and accessories. I believe there is a nice 16750 for sale now on the forum for $3200.

[bvm183]

16750 pepsi for me

[montecristo4]

16750 on a daily basis for me. It is the ultimate 1675 with modern features

[Newportkrieger]

Originally Posted by montecristo4

16750 on a daily basis for me. It is the ultimate 1675 with modern features

NICE 16750. That case looks unpolished!

[montecristo4]

Thanks ;)

Unpolished I don't think so but it has a very fat case

[Flyjet601]

hope this 16750 helps ur decision........

[roh123]

Easy pick for me. I'd take the 16750 any day if you feel you need the quickset. If you don't need that I would go after a nice 1675 instead. The sapphire versions does nothing for me. Sorry

Good luck sir :)

[sepcreek]

Gee, thanks again for your responses. They really have been helpful.

I know have a very strong preference for a 16750.

Just got to find a nice one now.

Many thanks again.

Tony

[HL65]

Happy hunting and think that is a good choice!

[mailman]

Originally Posted by mike

Any of the three references will serve you well and given both the 16750 and 16700 use a 3xxx fast beat movement servicing won't present the problem (with the mothership) 15xx movments references might down the road.

That said a few personal preferences must be factored in.

1. Do you want a true quickset feature?

If so the 16750 and 16700 are your choices. I personally don't think the 16710 takes a backseat here with it's jump hour feature and the ability to tell local time off the dial as opposed to the insert is nice if you travel.

2. Is a measure of luminosity a consideration?

The 16710 is the choice here. (perhaps a late 16700?) True a service replacenet dial on the earlier references will render that moot, but consider the impact as to altering the watch from it's original condition.

Note: Personally I think doing this to an early matt 16750 isn't an option as the loss in value is more than the others.

3. Acryllic or sapphire?

Both have their advantages. Sapphire is certainly easier to maintain, but acryllic speaks to an earlier era we will never see again.

Good luck!

Great advice here

[Tools]

You can't go wrong with any of them ..

[Tony G]

Nice Example of a Thick Case / Eggshell 16750........

[arexander]

Just curious, is the 16710 the only one with the independent mercedes hour hand?

[springer]

Originally Posted by arexander

Just curious, is the 16710 the only one with the independent mercedes hour hand?

The 16710 isn't the only model with the independent hour hand - the GMT II 16760 does also along with the current GMT II ceramic model.

[arexander]

Originally Posted by springer

The 16710 isn't the only model with the independent hour hand - the GMT II 16760 does also along with the current GMT II ceramic model.

Ah, my bad. I meant to ask in the context of the 3 watches in OP's thread title. Thanks for your input!

[springer]

Originally Posted by arexander

Ah, my bad. I meant to ask in the context of the 3 watches in OP's thread title. Thanks for your input!

The GMT 16750, 16700 as well as the 1675 do not have the independent hour hand.

[Daytonaman799]

Originally Posted by dddrees

I decided to go with the 16710. A bit more modern but it still has lug holes.

That looks GREAT on the Jubilee. I think the GMT looks much better with a Jubilee.

[strafer_kid]

Originally Posted by Newportkrieger

I too prefer the 16750 and the 16700. My daily wear watch is a Rolex 16700 and I have two 16750's, a 16713 and a 1675 so I am familar with your choices. I think the 16700 is the best of both worlds:

- original GMT function
- quickset date
- bulletproof sapphire crystal
- 16700 can be had for very good prices in very good condition but you have to look for them as they are becomming less and less common.
- I reccomend you look for alate "U" or "A" series with the "swiss" lume dial.

In favor of the 16750
- true vintage watch with "plastic" crystal
- available with matte dial or gloss depending on preference
- quckset date

Both the 16700 and the 16750 will serve you well.

Very well summed up. I have both and like you tend to wear the 16700 most often - great all rounder - mine is a U serial "Swiss" dial so lume is reasonable. My local AD picked it up earlier this year as a trade in and it was fitted from new with a flip lock clasp with dive extension. Great watch! Am looking out for a 16710 now - had one a few years back and regrettably flipped it.

All the GMTs are great - hope you land a good one!

[ABChop]

I love my "Swiss" dial A serial 16700. It's my daily wearer.
I bought it from the original owner for a real deal 6 yrs ago.
I cummute back and forth 7 time zones every 3 weeks, so I make good use of the GMT function.
I have the original black bezel, plus I got the Coke and Pepsi as well. So 3 watches in one.

Great watches. I highly recommend one.