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stevemulholland3 · 4 August 2011, 01:37 PM

anyone??
its actually nice looking in its own way..so close,yet it just lacks the balance of the righteous model..

mikey080 · 4 August 2011, 01:55 PM

That is a great looking watch. Pictures like this make me want to sell a few collectible to start a submariner fund.

Jason71 · 4 August 2011, 07:30 PM

WOW!! That thing is pristine

The Laird · 4 August 2011, 07:34 PM

Hi Everyone,

I like, I like, I like!

Did I mention, I like!!!

Till next time...

The Laird

adam78 · 4 August 2011, 09:42 PM

You last three folks do realize that this is a replica that is designed to fool honest people?

The Laird · 4 August 2011, 09:47 PM

Hi Everyone,

No, I didn't realise it was a replica!!!

I DO NOT LIKE! I DO NOT LIKE! I DO NOT LIKE!

Till next time...

The Laird

Frogman4me · 4 August 2011, 10:29 PM

Jason71 · 4 August 2011, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam78

You last three folks do realize that this is a replica that is designed to fool honest people?

Nope. It now "clicks" with the thread title, but I am not good at all by spotting Tudor fakes. Only ones I can pick out are those California dial Tudorlex.

Jagatai · 4 August 2011, 11:27 PM

wowthanks for posting! always good to see these darn things!

matt4hand · 4 August 2011, 11:32 PM

Steve,

How does the Mov't look on it? That's usually the give away. I recently saw a Chinese Daytona that was scary it was so good.

Just another reason to know your seller.

roh123 · 4 August 2011, 11:32 PM

The bezel insert looks terrible but all in all it's quite a good fake. Scary :(

Thanks for sharing Steve

Johny · 4 August 2011, 11:41 PM

hi steve...in what sort of numbers are these appearing?

conrail · 4 August 2011, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam78

You last three folks do realize that this is a replica that is designed to fool honest people?

Hahaha. I've noticed recently that a lot of people don't actually read the text people write accompanying their pictures and just quickly chime in with "Looks great!"

Michael M. · 4 August 2011, 11:57 PM

Dial font and spacing is off, plus the case is pretty weird looking, and that insert.......is horrible! Steve, is the submariner card real?

The Laird · 4 August 2011, 11:57 PM

Hi Everyone,

I read the text, but I thought he meant he had bought the watch in China; not a watch made in China!

Till next time...

The Laird

mikey080 · 5 August 2011, 01:31 AM

I DO actually read all of the text before chiming in with "Looks Great" just thought it was a Tudor Submariner that he just purchased from China. I didn't realize it was a fake.

That is a Horrible Looking Fake watch. Pictures like this of a Real Tudor Sub make me want to sell a few collectible to start a REAL Tudor Submariner fund.

lhanddds · 5 August 2011, 01:42 AM

Pretty scary! The responses, however, were pretty funny

Puffy · 5 August 2011, 02:01 AM

looks great steve!

Racer X · 5 August 2011, 02:06 AM

Congratulations on a beautiful vintage watch! Oh, it's a fake? That watch is awful! What an obvious fake!

rad87gn · 5 August 2011, 02:07 AM

Nice watch! "Use this box for cigarettes after removing this card and watch support" Love it! LOL!

conrail · 5 August 2011, 02:10 AM

JEC · 5 August 2011, 02:45 AM

I'm not that well versed in Tudors but isn't a blue rose dial an anachronism? Kind of a stupid fake if they never made it in the first place.

The usual tell for these cases is equal-length E pips on the case engravings - are they present on this example?

lhanddds · 5 August 2011, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer X

Congratulations on a beautiful vintage watch! Oh, it's a fake? That watch is awful! What an obvious fake!

jdc · 5 August 2011, 05:18 AM

Scary shows how careful you have to be, and buy from a trusted seller with vintage

Newportkrieger · 5 August 2011, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogman4me

Where do you find all these great facepalm pics?

stevemulholland3 · 5 August 2011, 06:15 AM

sorry guys..I guess I should have been more clear..lol
I sometimes forget that its rather difficult to belay inflections in written text.
but yes..the latest counterfeit Tudor sub..havent had one in my hands yet but in the past two weeks I have had two people offer these up..one guy said he bought his from the original owner..lol
So just be aware..the things we have always counted on in the past for detecting fakes are being improved and eventually they will have them copied..but fear not as I already have two methods that I use to detect these fakes that are unpublished (and they will remain that way!)..so we will always be one step ahead..
I have a colleague who is serious about starting a database on vintage Rolex using shavings from their cases(he says its called "X-ray photoelectron spectroscopy" )which he says has shown some clear and precise chemical markers only present in Rolex metal..
supposedly anyone will ba able to take a fingernail file and scratch the bottom of their watch,send in the file and he can determine from that if its authentic!
sounds very promising..I told him I am an investor!..lol

Explorer 2011 · 5 August 2011, 06:20 AM

i was fooled here too thinking it looked sweet

oldbronco · 5 August 2011, 07:17 AM

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I can't resist showing off a real one I found last May.

pawnshopkiller · 6 August 2011, 10:22 AM

rehault looks to thick

4 August 2011, 01:37 PM	#1
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,672	Who wants to see the latest 7016 Tudor sub to debute from China? anyone?? its actually nice looking in its own way..so close,yet it just lacks the balance of the righteous model..

4 August 2011, 07:30 PM	#3
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	WOW!! That thing is pristine __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

4 August 2011, 07:34 PM	#4
The Laird "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: On a boat!!! Posts: 387	Hi Everyone, I like, I like, I like! Did I mention, I like!!! Till next time... The Laird __________________ Nylon Nation Member Tudor Supporter & Vintage Submariner/Explorer & Drilled Lug Hole Fan Vintage Rolex Group Member James Bond Watches Member

4 August 2011, 09:42 PM	#5
adam78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,830	You last three folks do realize that this is a replica that is designed to fool honest people? __________________ Cheers, Adam

4 August 2011, 09:47 PM	#6
The Laird "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: On a boat!!! Posts: 387	Hi Everyone, No, I didn't realise it was a replica!!! I DO NOT LIKE! I DO NOT LIKE! I DO NOT LIKE! Till next time... The Laird __________________ Nylon Nation Member Tudor Supporter & Vintage Submariner/Explorer & Drilled Lug Hole Fan Vintage Rolex Group Member James Bond Watches Member

4 August 2011, 01:55 PM	#2
mikey080 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Michael Location: Middle TN Watch: Air King Posts: 26	That is a great looking watch. Pictures like this make me want to sell a few collectible to start a submariner fund.

4 August 2011, 10:29 PM	#7
Frogman4me Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,268

4 August 2011, 11:27 PM	#9
Jagatai "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Philip Location: NY Posts: 851	wowthanks for posting! always good to see these darn things!

4 August 2011, 11:32 PM	#10
matt4hand Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Matt Location: Atlanta Watch: Tramp Posts: 2,369	Steve, How does the Mov't look on it? That's usually the give away. I recently saw a Chinese Daytona that was scary it was so good. Just another reason to know your seller.

4 August 2011, 11:32 PM	#11
roh123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Per Location: Sweden Watch: Gilt Rolex Posts: 2,946	The bezel insert looks terrible but all in all it's quite a good fake. Scary :( Thanks for sharing Steve

4 August 2011, 11:41 PM	#12
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	hi steve...in what sort of numbers are these appearing? __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

4 August 2011, 11:57 PM	#14
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Dial font and spacing is off, plus the case is pretty weird looking, and that insert.......is horrible! Steve, is the submariner card real?

4 August 2011, 11:57 PM	#15
The Laird "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: On a boat!!! Posts: 387	Hi Everyone, I read the text, but I thought he meant he had bought the watch in China; not a watch made in China! Till next time... The Laird __________________ Nylon Nation Member Tudor Supporter & Vintage Submariner/Explorer & Drilled Lug Hole Fan Vintage Rolex Group Member James Bond Watches Member

5 August 2011, 01:31 AM	#16
mikey080 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Michael Location: Middle TN Watch: Air King Posts: 26	I DO actually read all of the text before chiming in with "Looks Great" just thought it was a Tudor Submariner that he just purchased from China. I didn't realize it was a fake. That is a Horrible Looking Fake watch. Pictures like this of a Real Tudor Sub make me want to sell a few collectible to start a REAL Tudor Submariner fund.

5 August 2011, 01:42 AM	#17
lhanddds Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Watch: of course Posts: 8,429	Pretty scary! The responses, however, were pretty funny

5 August 2011, 02:01 AM	#18
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	looks great steve! __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

5 August 2011, 02:06 AM	#19
Racer X "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Dave Location: Unknown Posts: 999	Congratulations on a beautiful vintage watch! Oh, it's a fake? That watch is awful! What an obvious fake!

5 August 2011, 02:07 AM	#20
rad87gn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chad Location: Des Moines, Iowa Watch: Rolex, PAM, Omega Posts: 1,607	Nice watch! "Use this box for cigarettes after removing this card and watch support" Love it! LOL! __________________ Rolex P-Series SS GMT II Black, Rolex Y-Series Sea-Dweller, Rolex F-Series TT Blue Sub, Rolex F-Series Sub LV, Rolex D-Series Ladies SS/WG DJ for wife, Panerai K-Series PAM 112, Omega Speedmaster Pro 3570.50, Omega Seamaster 300M Chrono 2594.52

5 August 2011, 02:10 AM	#21
conrail "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 3,177	__________________ "Oh, you give a f****' aspirin a headache, pal!"

5 August 2011, 02:45 AM	#22
JEC Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: J. Location: Montreal Watch: Speedmaster Pro Posts: 232	I'm not that well versed in Tudors but isn't a blue rose dial an anachronism? Kind of a stupid fake if they never made it in the first place. The usual tell for these cases is equal-length E pips on the case engravings - are they present on this example?

5 August 2011, 05:18 AM	#24
jdc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: UK Posts: 7,023	Scary shows how careful you have to be, and buy from a trusted seller with vintage

5 August 2011, 06:15 AM	#26
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,672	sorry guys..I guess I should have been more clear..lol I sometimes forget that its rather difficult to belay inflections in written text. but yes..the latest counterfeit Tudor sub..havent had one in my hands yet but in the past two weeks I have had two people offer these up..one guy said he bought his from the original owner..lol So just be aware..the things we have always counted on in the past for detecting fakes are being improved and eventually they will have them copied..but fear not as I already have two methods that I use to detect these fakes that are unpublished (and they will remain that way!)..so we will always be one step ahead.. I have a colleague who is serious about starting a database on vintage Rolex using shavings from their cases(he says its called "X-ray photoelectron spectroscopy" )which he says has shown some clear and precise chemical markers only present in Rolex metal.. supposedly anyone will ba able to take a fingernail file and scratch the bottom of their watch,send in the file and he can determine from that if its authentic! sounds very promising..I told him I am an investor!..lol

5 August 2011, 06:20 AM	#27
Explorer 2011 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Kris Location: ENGLAND Watch: Searching Posts: 1,038	i was fooled here too thinking it looked sweet __________________ __________________ ROLEX Explorer 214270 "Nil Satis Nisi Optimum..."

5 August 2011, 07:17 AM	#28
oldbronco Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: USA Watch: Ranger Posts: 315	latest from China [IMG][/IMG] I can't resist showing off a real one I found last May.

6 August 2011, 10:22 AM	#29
pawnshopkiller Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Roscoe Location: florida Watch: 16618 Posts: 646	rehault looks to thick

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