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Kevandra · 20 August 2011, 11:53 AM

Hello,

I visit this forum every day as I save for my first Rolex. I'm a classic kinda guy. As such, I was convinced a no-date sub was the perfect timepiece for me. However, I'm starting to really enjoy the look and versatility of the Explorer too.

Did anyone else contemplate the two before making the jump? I'm a shirt-and-tie guy by day and think the Exporer may look a little better. I've seen it on leather too; it looked great. Perhaps some day I will be able to have both. For now, I'm enjoying the research and information on this site. The search is half the fun.

K

Jason71 · 20 August 2011, 11:57 AM

I like the explorer, but I am definitely a Sub kinda guy. Get a 14060M (or better yet, a 5513)

tkc324 · 20 August 2011, 12:00 PM

Honestly, you will get lots of supporters on both watch... although I want to guess that a little more people here will be in favor of the Sub no date. I think it will just come down to if you need the date and GMT function. My vote definitely goes to the Exp2 black dial, which I think is one of the most stealth but functional watch that Rolex has to offer. Either watch will be a great addition, and I suspect that you will end up with both in the future. Good luck to you!

scl6118 · 20 August 2011, 12:14 PM

Well, I prefer the sub, but you seem to be leaning towards the Explorer. You should get what you naturally gravitate to. The Explorer is a nice watch.

LTM · 20 August 2011, 12:34 PM

The Explorer is the perfect first Rolex.

Boothroyd · 20 August 2011, 12:42 PM

Assuming you reference Explorer I 39mm, go for it. No regrets.

Have enjoyed the elegance of this watch. But try them on; to each their own. Check profile/weight of watch on wrist as a daily wearer. I have heard the dial of the no-date Sub doesn't "pop" to same degree as the Sub-Date; or new Explorer I with matte black dial. Should be a pretty obvious choice to you once you spend time with the watches.

MortgageGuy · 20 August 2011, 12:48 PM

Sub for me but to each their own

Rollie2011 · 20 August 2011, 12:51 PM

Are you referring to the exp I or exp ii ?

dddrees · 20 August 2011, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTM

The Explorer is the perfect first Rolex.

I think any Rolex is a perfect first Rolex. It's very hard to make a bad choice, in fact I think that might be darn near impossible.

Determine which makes you the happiest when you put it on, and get that one.

jedinite · 20 August 2011, 12:57 PM

Polar Explorer II

sea-dweller · 20 August 2011, 02:47 PM

I love my Explorer 1 and I am sure that when you buy yours, you will love it also!

gwalker · 20 August 2011, 03:03 PM

Sub guy here but i have to have a date.

Timber Loftis · 20 August 2011, 03:08 PM

I chose an Expy II Noir as my first, and still love it. When my sister-in-law commented on how nice it looked at the pool the other day, I told her it was a Rolex on a $20 nylon NATO strap, and she laughed and got a kick out of it. If I had it to do over, I'd probably choose a polar version, not because I'm prejudiced, but because there are so many blackface (and I mean that term totally innocently) watches out there that can be added to your collection in the future.

First watch, go for a Polar Expy II, IMO, a great choice, and one I'd make if I had it to do over. Do NOT overpay for it, though. Unless you're looking at a 70's era (grail, and only available in black AFAIK) McQueen or the new (not yet available) version, these watches are easy to pick up for a fairly modest amount. There is love for them, but not so much that you should pay a king's ransom. Because price discussions are a bit vorbotten in these parts, feel free to PM me for some (biased) opinions on what you should be looking to pay.

If it's the regular Expy I you're thinking about, I can't personally say I own one, but I especially like the ones with the 3/6/9 markings -- and some of them come in very cool variations these days. I still prefer the 24-hr. hand myself, because who knows when you're going to be lost in the Northern Hemisphere and need a makeshift compass. Gotta always be ready for ZA day, right? LOL, righteo, 'nuff said.

HongNinja · 20 August 2011, 03:19 PM

EVERY man should own a Submariner/Sea-Dweller. Period.

Linzjnr · 20 August 2011, 04:46 PM

Sub man through and through, got to have the date though. I love the look of the no date, very James Bond! Explorer a great watch too, in the end you will need to make the choice for yourself on what suits your lifestyle best. Plus if you hang round here long enough whatever you buy will be the first of a "collection"! Cheers

Nitedeuce · 20 August 2011, 08:15 PM

The new Explorer II is on my wish list. I think the new ones will satisfy a lot of people with the changes. That said, my first Rolex was a no-date Submariner and I'll never let go of that one. You can't go wrong either way though. Both are excellent sport watches. If you are a fidgety bezel twister you may want the Sub over the Explorer though. Good luck and have fun choosing!

TSW · 20 August 2011, 11:15 PM

Sub would make a excellent first Rolex.

travisb · 20 August 2011, 11:17 PM

rpryan55 · 21 August 2011, 12:24 AM

I made a horrible deal to get my ND Sub - gave away a much more expensive watch to get it. Nonetheless, I consider it the best deal I ever made, because of all my watches the Sub ND is the most comfortable, most versatile, and best looking of all the tool watches I own. So you know my vote.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 21 August 2011, 01:47 AM

I say get whatever sings to you. Who cares what anyone else thinks/says. It's your watch and you wear it.

rolexsweep · 21 August 2011, 04:39 AM

sub all day everyday, get the sub first then get the exp if u really like it

poker · 21 August 2011, 04:53 AM

between the 2, the Sub gets my vote.

Lanfor · 21 August 2011, 04:57 AM

Subs make a great first rolex, but i love the exp II too

20 August 2011, 11:53 AM	#1
Kevandra "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 18	First rolex Hello, I visit this forum every day as I save for my first Rolex. I'm a classic kinda guy. As such, I was convinced a no-date sub was the perfect timepiece for me. However, I'm starting to really enjoy the look and versatility of the Explorer too. Did anyone else contemplate the two before making the jump? I'm a shirt-and-tie guy by day and think the Exporer may look a little better. I've seen it on leather too; it looked great. Perhaps some day I will be able to have both. For now, I'm enjoying the research and information on this site. The search is half the fun. K

20 August 2011, 11:57 AM	#2
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	I like the explorer, but I am definitely a Sub kinda guy. Get a 14060M (or better yet, a 5513) __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

20 August 2011, 12:14 PM	#4
scl6118 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Shawn Location: United States Watch: SS GMT IIC Posts: 1,624	Well, I prefer the sub, but you seem to be leaning towards the Explorer. You should get what you naturally gravitate to. The Explorer is a nice watch. __________________ Current: SS GMT IIC Former: Panerai 114 Former: Breitling Hercules :

20 August 2011, 12:42 PM	#6
Boothroyd 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Daniel Location: Minneapolis, MN Watch: Wilsdorf(s) Posts: 10,258	Assuming you reference Explorer I 39mm, go for it. No regrets. Have enjoyed the elegance of this watch. But try them on; to each their own. Check profile/weight of watch on wrist as a daily wearer. I have heard the dial of the no-date Sub doesn't "pop" to same degree as the Sub-Date; or new Explorer I with matte black dial. Should be a pretty obvious choice to you once you spend time with the watches. __________________ Explorer 214270 MK I/Datejust II Black 116300/Tudor Heritage Black Bay Black 79220N

20 August 2011, 12:48 PM	#7
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	Sub for me but to each their own __________________ The richest people in the world look for and build NETWORKS, Everyone else looks for work... Robert Kiyosaki

20 August 2011, 12:00 PM	#3
tkc324 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Tom Location: Chi town Watch: Daytona AP DD Sub Posts: 3,717	Honestly, you will get lots of supporters on both watch... although I want to guess that a little more people here will be in favor of the Sub no date. I think it will just come down to if you need the date and GMT function. My vote definitely goes to the Exp2 black dial, which I think is one of the most stealth but functional watch that Rolex has to offer. Either watch will be a great addition, and I suspect that you will end up with both in the future. Good luck to you!

20 August 2011, 12:34 PM	#5
LTM Banned Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: SoCar Watch: GMT & Sub-C Posts: 128	The Explorer is the perfect first Rolex.

20 August 2011, 12:51 PM	#8
Rollie2011 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: John Location: Palm Beach, FL Watch: Sub-C + Exp 42 Posts: 1,654	Are you referring to the exp I or exp ii ?

20 August 2011, 12:57 PM	#10
jedinite "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: TC Location: GMT -8 Watch: SeaDweller Deepsea Posts: 582	Polar Explorer II __________________ Tudor Submariner 76100/Rolex TT Submariner Blue X/Victorinox AirBoss Mach 6/Longines Grande Vitesse/Rolex SeaDweller DeepSea V/ GShock GW-3000B/ Tudor Prince Date 74034/ Rolex ExII 42 WD/ Rolex Submariner 116610 LV/ Tudor Pelagos Blue

20 August 2011, 02:47 PM	#11
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I love my Explorer 1 and I am sure that when you buy yours, you will love it also!

20 August 2011, 03:03 PM	#12
gwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Gunter Location: AL/NJ Watch: DSSD; 116610LN Posts: 5,509	Sub guy here but i have to have a date.

20 August 2011, 03:08 PM	#13
Timber Loftis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Jon Location: Chicago Watch: IIc,DJII,P244,A1-Z Posts: 2,857	I chose an Expy II Noir as my first, and still love it. When my sister-in-law commented on how nice it looked at the pool the other day, I told her it was a Rolex on a $20 nylon NATO strap, and she laughed and got a kick out of it. If I had it to do over, I'd probably choose a polar version, not because I'm prejudiced, but because there are so many blackface (and I mean that term totally innocently) watches out there that can be added to your collection in the future. First watch, go for a Polar Expy II, IMO, a great choice, and one I'd make if I had it to do over. Do NOT overpay for it, though. Unless you're looking at a 70's era (grail, and only available in black AFAIK) McQueen or the new (not yet available) version, these watches are easy to pick up for a fairly modest amount. There is love for them, but not so much that you should pay a king's ransom. Because price discussions are a bit vorbotten in these parts, feel free to PM me for some (biased) opinions on what you should be looking to pay. If it's the regular Expy I you're thinking about, I can't personally say I own one, but I especially like the ones with the 3/6/9 markings -- and some of them come in very cool variations these days. I still prefer the 24-hr. hand myself, because who knows when you're going to be lost in the Northern Hemisphere and need a makeshift compass. Gotta always be ready for ZA day, right? LOL, righteo, 'nuff said.

20 August 2011, 03:19 PM	#14
HongNinja Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: On Earth Watch: 228238, 114060 Posts: 1,347	EVERY man should own a Submariner/Sea-Dweller. Period.

20 August 2011, 04:46 PM	#15
Linzjnr 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Linz Location: Perth WA Watch: My bank balance! Posts: 1,373	Sub man through and through, got to have the date though. I love the look of the no date, very James Bond! Explorer a great watch too, in the end you will need to make the choice for yourself on what suits your lifestyle best. Plus if you hang round here long enough whatever you buy will be the first of a "collection"! Cheers __________________ SS Submariner Date 16610 - SS Polar Explorer GMT 216570

20 August 2011, 08:15 PM	#16
Nitedeuce "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Germany Watch: Rolex VC JLC IWC Posts: 452	The new Explorer II is on my wish list. I think the new ones will satisfy a lot of people with the changes. That said, my first Rolex was a no-date Submariner and I'll never let go of that one. You can't go wrong either way though. Both are excellent sport watches. If you are a fidgety bezel twister you may want the Sub over the Explorer though. Good luck and have fun choosing! __________________ "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway

20 August 2011, 11:15 PM	#17
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Sub would make a excellent first Rolex. __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

20 August 2011, 11:17 PM	#18
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,493	Both classic but I like the Sub more.

21 August 2011, 12:24 AM	#19
rpryan55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Dick Location: USA Watch: SubND,DD,SSDaytona Posts: 2,257	I made a horrible deal to get my ND Sub - gave away a much more expensive watch to get it. Nonetheless, I consider it the best deal I ever made, because of all my watches the Sub ND is the most comfortable, most versatile, and best looking of all the tool watches I own. So you know my vote. __________________ “The only reason for time ....................... is so that everything doesn't happen at once." Albert Einstein

21 August 2011, 01:47 AM	#20
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	I say get whatever sings to you. Who cares what anyone else thinks/says. It's your watch and you wear it. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

21 August 2011, 04:39 AM	#21
rolexsweep "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Australia Watch: RG DD40 Posts: 1,149	sub all day everyday, get the sub first then get the exp if u really like it __________________ "Did you get that at retail?"

21 August 2011, 04:53 AM	#22
poker "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rolex Forum Watch: Rolex Posts: 163	between the 2, the Sub gets my vote.

21 August 2011, 04:57 AM	#23
Lanfor "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Matt Location: London Watch: Submariner-16610LV Posts: 1,798	Subs make a great first rolex, but i love the exp II too __________________ Rolex Submariner - 16610LV

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