what do you think about the 1680 red submariner here

[jjbrothers]

http://www.ebay.de/itm/180709188351?...84.m1439.l2649


please tell me if you know the dial and the case are original

[mcjp6]

Originally Posted by jjbrothers

please tell me if you know the dial and the case are original

That is a hard question to answer with no serial no. given. The end pieces obviously not correct and I am not 100% on the clasp/band.

The seller does have IMO dubious feedback just recently i.e. "this seller sells fake rolex dials but lists them as original" which would make me extremely wary.

Be very careful here.

[TimeToGo]

Listing ended, hopefully noone purchased out of ebay..

beauvallonjp83

Dial does not look good either!

Look at the spacing on the "M" of submariner and the word "OFFICIALLY"...

OUCH!

[jjbrothers]

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Listing ended, hopefully noone purchased out of ebay..

beauvallonjp83

Dial does not look good either!

Look at the spacing on the "M" of submariner and the word "OFFICIALLY"...

OUCH!

indeed the dial looks horrible

but if the case is fine the watch is worth the money

i am the buyer

so band is o.k exept of one end piece

case has a signature , i think it will be o.k the seller bought some stuff from sflmaven and they sell original good stuff



and the movement will be fine too

so if only the dial is wrong the prive of 2150€ circa is fine

[jb73]

Could you explain what the dial problems are?

Pretty new to this and the watch out section is really helpful for learning what to look for

[TimeToGo]

Hands are most likely not original also. The clasp looks suspect also.

Did you get any reference numbers on the clasp, case, and caseback?