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dpbdc · 10 July 2007, 04:25 PM

Hey everyone, first post here. I figured this would be a great place to look since I am having difficulty identifying this watch.

It was picked up in an estate sale in Canada and needs restoration. The face, as you can see in the photos, is quite faded and worn and much of the casing appears to be missing, along with the crystal.

Visible on the face are ROLEX and STANDARD written below. The stem and crown are at the 12 o'clock position on this watch which should be a rather telling feature, I think.

THe watch appears to be working well when wound. Upon removing the face and mechanism from the caseback, you can read ROLEX and PAT PEND stamped on the inside of the caseback.

On the mechanism, you can read 17 RUBIES and SWISS MADE and what appears to be the letters R A above the letters S F.

We have been informed that this might be a "driver's" watch circa 1917-1920.

Can anyone confirm this? I am interested in restoring this and am planning on taking it to an AD soon to help with the identification.

Sorry for the large image files, I wanted to illustrate as much detail as i could. Larger files available.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Cheers
Dave

Gaijin · 10 July 2007, 04:44 PM

Interesting.

Alcan · 10 July 2007, 04:47 PM

Hi Dave, welcome aboard!

Sorry, I can't help ID the watch but it looks like an interesting restoration project.

Keep us posted. We've seen the "before", so you have to post the "after"!

Uncle-AJ · 10 July 2007, 05:08 PM

Hello Dave and welcome to TRF.

The way your watch is mounted made me think of a nurse's watch. I'm no expert but I would have thought "Rolex" or "WD" would have been somewhere on the movement. Padi, our birthday boy is a bit of an expert on older watches, he may be able to help.

Alex Stylianou · 10 July 2007, 05:09 PM

WOW , How The Hell Do You Wear It ?

padi56 · 10 July 2007, 05:58 PM

Myself have not seen one like that before like Adrian said, could have been custom made like a nurses watch.Or even the watch fitted into some sort of case in a car etc.Now it looks SS rather than silver,now SS at this period was quite a new metal.And was more expencive that silver,the movement is a 17j prince type made by Herman Aegler,who was part at that time of "Aegler, Société Anonyme, Fabrique des Montres Rolex & Gruen Guild A.," this means, in translation, Aegler incorporated, manufacturer of Rolex & Gruen Guild A Watches. But its not the top range adjusted one, age got to be very early or late 1920s The RA = Rolex Aegler, the SF= Fab Suisse.

10 July 2007, 04:25 PM	#1
dpbdc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cardiff, CA Posts: 1	Please help identifying antique Rolex - 12 o'clock stem - PICS 56K BEWARE Hey everyone, first post here. I figured this would be a great place to look since I am having difficulty identifying this watch. It was picked up in an estate sale in Canada and needs restoration. The face, as you can see in the photos, is quite faded and worn and much of the casing appears to be missing, along with the crystal. Visible on the face are ROLEX and STANDARD written below. The stem and crown are at the 12 o'clock position on this watch which should be a rather telling feature, I think. THe watch appears to be working well when wound. Upon removing the face and mechanism from the caseback, you can read ROLEX and PAT PEND stamped on the inside of the caseback. On the mechanism, you can read 17 RUBIES and SWISS MADE and what appears to be the letters R A above the letters S F. We have been informed that this might be a "driver's" watch circa 1917-1920. Can anyone confirm this? I am interested in restoring this and am planning on taking it to an AD soon to help with the identification. Sorry for the large image files, I wanted to illustrate as much detail as i could. Larger files available. Any help would be very much appreciated. Cheers Dave

10 July 2007, 04:47 PM	#3
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	Hi Dave, welcome aboard! Sorry, I can't help ID the watch but it looks like an interesting restoration project. Keep us posted. We've seen the "before", so you have to post the "after"! __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

10 July 2007, 05:08 PM	#4
Uncle-AJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Real Name: Adrian Location: Bolton, UK. Watch: Daytona 116520 Posts: 6,844	Hello Dave and welcome to TRF. The way your watch is mounted made me think of a nurse's watch. I'm no expert but I would have thought "Rolex" or "WD" would have been somewhere on the movement. Padi, our birthday boy is a bit of an expert on older watches, he may be able to help. __________________ A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.........Segal's Law Member #10

10 July 2007, 05:58 PM	#6
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,063	Myself have not seen one like that before like Adrian said, could have been custom made like a nurses watch.Or even the watch fitted into some sort of case in a car etc.Now it looks SS rather than silver,now SS at this period was quite a new metal.And was more expencive that silver,the movement is a 17j prince type made by Herman Aegler,who was part at that time of "Aegler, Société Anonyme, Fabrique des Montres Rolex & Gruen Guild A.," this means, in translation, Aegler incorporated, manufacturer of Rolex & Gruen Guild A Watches. But its not the top range adjusted one, age got to be very early or late 1920s The RA = Rolex Aegler, the SF= Fab Suisse. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

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Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	Interesting.

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