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RKan · 13 October 2011, 07:13 AM

In terms of a preowned purchase, does the warranty card have any value past the end date of the warranty?

MB7000 · 13 October 2011, 07:19 AM

I would say yes, buyers on the secondary market like to have them. Also a watch with the original box and card is worth a little more IMO.

Numismatist · 13 October 2011, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RKan

In terms of a preowned purchase, does the warranty card have any value past the end date of the warranty?

It technically does not do anything anymore; however, with the new randomized serials numbers it can help in accurately dating a watch for resale.

Mickey® · 13 October 2011, 07:27 AM

A couple hundred bucks on resale...obviously more if still under warranty.

MoBe · 13 October 2011, 07:32 AM

Any kind of documentary evidence that helps to authenticate a Rolex will add value.The less you know about the seller the greater the need for documentation.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 13 October 2011, 09:30 AM

To me it proves it is not a stolen watch.

Numismatist · 13 October 2011, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

To me it proves it is not a stolen watch.

because a thief can't steal the warranty card along with the watch too from a house?

Rollie2011 · 13 October 2011, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

To me it proves it is not a stolen watch.

It proves the watch is genuine haha

dddrees · 13 October 2011, 09:37 AM

The market has determined there is a monetary value associated to having papers. The actual value varies as they are worth more for vintage watches.

However it's the watch and the condition of the watch that will always mean a whole lot more.

Mickey® · 13 October 2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

To me it proves it is not a stolen watch.

OR They stole the box and papers from someone's home!!!!

stiusa · 13 October 2011, 10:43 AM

I will always look to see if the original warranty card/paper is there before I even look at the purchase. It will have to be a really really good deal for me to even consider a Rolex without the warranty card/paper.

handsfull · 13 October 2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Numismatist

It technically does not do anything anymore; however, with the new randomized serials numbers it can help in accurately dating a watch for resale.

+1 ....dating the watch is the only thing it's good for.

watchf · 13 October 2011, 11:17 AM

I prefer a complete set.

Speed · 13 October 2011, 11:25 AM

Oh boy here we go.

Yes. Regardless of "Internet hype" and expired warranty or not...most sellers of a watch with no papers will get haggled down more than a equivalent watch with papers.

Period. The end.

handsfull · 13 October 2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Speed

...most sellers of a watch with no papers will get haggled down more than a equivalent watch with papers.

No argument there.

...BUT...an expired warranty card still has as much importance as the box pillow!

Tools · 13 October 2011, 12:00 PM

Boxes and old warranty papers are an Internet phenomena...

z32turbo · 13 October 2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Boxes and old warranty papers are an Internet phenomena...

MortgageGuy · 13 October 2011, 12:59 PM

Perhaps it is a phenomena however I would not purchase a watch without one. This is my opinion of course but to me it is worth much more than a couple of hundred bucks. Watch the FS section here on TRF and you will see that not only are they less expensive when incomplete but they do not sell very well either

MY-WATCH · 13 October 2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MB7000

I would say yes, buyers on the secondary market like to have them. Also a watch with the original box and card is worth a little more IMO.

Agree

nch209 · 13 October 2011, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MortgageGuy

Perhaps it is a phenomena however I would not purchase a watch without one. This is my opinion of course but to me it is worth much more than a couple of hundred bucks. Watch the FS section here on TRF and you will see that not only are they less expensive when incomplete but they do not sell very well either

I agree--- especially when you go back to vintage pieces. Having EVERTHING is very appealing to collectors. Also, when you see watches near new without cards, it makes me a bit puzzled...

That said, you can get nice deals on paperless pieces, and they still tell the same time!!!! To each his own....

padi56 · 13 October 2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dddrees

The market has determined there is a monetary value associated to having papers. The actual value varies as they are worth more for vintage watches.

However it's the watch and the condition of the watch that will always mean a whole lot more.

X2 Its only roughly since the Internet started and the Rolex hype that so much importance have been put on a warranty paper.Now with the vintage watches then yes a complete set would be desirable but any modern day Rolex since say 1988 on IMHO its not that important,and when the warranty has expired its just a bit of paper.And afraid today having that bit of paper don't always mean its not stolen or even genuine.Over the many years of being around Rolex have seen many fake papers that would fool most.Myself always buy condition of watch and would never pay extra for any box or out of date bit of paper.

dnagwhogas · 13 October 2011, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Myself always buy condition of watch and would never pay extra for any box or out of date bit of paper.

True. x2

padi56 · 13 October 2011, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dnagwhogas

True. But would you pay less too if it doesn't come with any b&p?

I would only pay what I wanted to pay irrespective of whether its got a box or out of date warranty bit of paper.

Welshwatchman · 13 October 2011, 11:02 PM

Value of an expired warranty card for a 16610, for example?

Try trading it in without one, then you'll find out.

Speed · 13 October 2011, 11:09 PM

Another good point!

Reality rules.

93 Turbo · 13 October 2011, 11:10 PM

If a Rolex watch dose not have the original box & papers, and is a 20 year old watch.

But, has a recent RSC service paper. Wether it's within or just out of the 2 year RSC warranty period.

Or you can pay a premium for that 20 year old Rolex, with a 20 year old box and original warranty.

What do we determine to be more important?

I know which 20 year old watch I'd be putting $ on.

firstOwatch · 13 October 2011, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stiusa

I will always look to see if the original warranty card/paper is there before I even look at the purchase. It will have to be a really really good deal for me to even consider a Rolex without the warranty card/paper.

....REALLY REALLY GOOD DEAL

good trap?

Stick with your ( mine ) guns!

NO STOLEN GOODS! No matter how good the deal is. Even it is free

Sorry for being off the topic! I do not mean to hijack !

mrbill2mrbill2 · 14 October 2011, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Numismatist

because a thief can't steal the warranty card along with the watch too from a house?

I guess that is a possibility. I don't keep my paperwork with my watches and I don't understand why someone would.

Maybe I should have said it lessens the chance of the watch being stolen.

Punjabusa · 14 October 2011, 03:12 AM

warrenty cards keep the value up !!, the ones with no papers usually go for less.

buffy · 14 October 2011, 03:30 AM

Well this all depends how old a watch is!
I don't really care when looked for my 1680. as an years watch is just a piece of paper. And i would value a recent service paper more.

13 October 2011, 07:13 AM	#1
RKan Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: CT Watch: GMTIIC, Millie GV Posts: 32	Value of the warranty card? In terms of a preowned purchase, does the warranty card have any value past the end date of the warranty?

13 October 2011, 09:30 AM	#6
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	To me it proves it is not a stolen watch. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

13 October 2011, 09:37 AM	#9
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	The market has determined there is a monetary value associated to having papers. The actual value varies as they are worth more for vintage watches. However it's the watch and the condition of the watch that will always mean a whole lot more. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

13 October 2011, 12:00 PM	#16
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Boxes and old warranty papers are an Internet phenomena... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

13 October 2011, 12:59 PM	#18
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	Perhaps it is a phenomena however I would not purchase a watch without one. This is my opinion of course but to me it is worth much more than a couple of hundred bucks. Watch the FS section here on TRF and you will see that not only are they less expensive when incomplete but they do not sell very well either __________________ The richest people in the world look for and build NETWORKS, Everyone else looks for work... Robert Kiyosaki

13 October 2011, 07:19 AM	#2
MB7000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Marcus Location: Chicago Watch: Day-Date,Deepsea Posts: 266	I would say yes, buyers on the secondary market like to have them. Also a watch with the original box and card is worth a little more IMO.

13 October 2011, 07:27 AM	#4
Mickey® Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Mickey® Location: Atlanta, GA Watch: Swiss Made Posts: 5,801	A couple hundred bucks on resale...obviously more if still under warranty.

13 October 2011, 07:32 AM	#5
MoBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 6,773	Any kind of documentary evidence that helps to authenticate a Rolex will add value.The less you know about the seller the greater the need for documentation.

13 October 2011, 10:43 AM	#11
stiusa "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Bill Location: California Watch: 16520, 16610LV Posts: 55	I will always look to see if the original warranty card/paper is there before I even look at the purchase. It will have to be a really really good deal for me to even consider a Rolex without the warranty card/paper.

13 October 2011, 11:17 AM	#13
watchf "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 2,458	I prefer a complete set.

13 October 2011, 11:25 AM	#14
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Oh boy here we go. Yes. Regardless of "Internet hype" and expired warranty or not...most sellers of a watch with no papers will get haggled down more than a equivalent watch with papers. Period. The end.

13 October 2011, 11:02 PM	#24
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	Value of an expired warranty card for a 16610, for example? Try trading it in without one, then you'll find out. __________________ ..33

13 October 2011, 11:09 PM	#25
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Another good point! Reality rules.

13 October 2011, 11:10 PM	#26
93 Turbo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Australia Watch: Rolex.Tudor.PAM Posts: 1,554	If a Rolex watch dose not have the original box & papers, and is a 20 year old watch. But, has a recent RSC service paper. Wether it's within or just out of the 2 year RSC warranty period. Or you can pay a premium for that 20 year old Rolex, with a 20 year old box and original warranty. What do we determine to be more important? I know which 20 year old watch I'd be putting $ on.

14 October 2011, 03:12 AM	#29
Punjabusa "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 89	warrenty cards keep the value up !!, the ones with no papers usually go for less.

14 October 2011, 03:30 AM	#30
buffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sweden Watch: 1680 Posts: 188	Well this all depends how old a watch is! I don't really care when looked for my 1680. as an years watch is just a piece of paper. And i would value a recent service paper more.

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