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Old 1 November 2011, 09:06 PM   #1
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No Sir - Don't go lookin' through that loupe.

As title really.
I've seen a few 'imperfections' threads recently and thought I'd share my own - well, my watches'!.

First time I looked through the loupe I COULD NOT BELIEVE IT.

The 12 lume looks like a badly made pie. At the top is just a shadow but that blob missing from the bottom...well, I ask you.

Never mind, it's not viewable with the naked eye.

Anyone else care to share your "bits that went a little wrong" or "where the elf's hand slipped".
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Old 1 November 2011, 09:07 PM   #2
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How can the robots be so careless?
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Old 1 November 2011, 09:08 PM   #3
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Old 1 November 2011, 09:16 PM   #4
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Old 1 November 2011, 09:18 PM   #5
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Yep.

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Old 1 November 2011, 09:18 PM   #6
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macro lenses and loupes are dangerous

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Old 1 November 2011, 09:24 PM   #7
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Pretty cool these loupes though.

Just don't look at the watch or...
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Old 1 November 2011, 09:39 PM   #8
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Very, very small dust particle on the dial for me. Remember: it / is / only / a / watch / !
Man hopes to live in a perfect world, perfect car, perfect wife... But nature hates perfection, even crystals are not perfect!
Your sub is made by robots, robots are made by humans, humans are animals, living in (deformed) nature... So your sub reflects nature, you have to live with it and respect those defects: they reflect nature!
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Old 1 November 2011, 09:43 PM   #9
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I don't mind it a bit - not even a little bit.

It's the Persian Carpet bit of the watch. It can't ALL be perfect.
It also means I could spot my own watch out of thousands.
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Old 1 November 2011, 09:52 PM   #10
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uh oh! Never thought this was possible for all that money spent.
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Old 1 November 2011, 09:54 PM   #11
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Old 1 November 2011, 10:11 PM   #12
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Very, very small dust particle on the dial for me. Remember: it / is / only / a / watch / !
Man hopes to live in a perfect world, perfect car, perfect wife... But nature hates perfection, even crystals are not perfect!
Your sub is made by robots, robots are made by humans, humans are animals, living in (deformed) nature... So your sub reflects nature, you have to live with it and respect those defects: they reflect nature!
Good one. I am trying to learn to live with that in many aspects of my life.
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Very, very small dust particle on the dial for me. Remember: it / is / only / a / watch / !
Man hopes to live in a perfect world, perfect car, perfect wife... But nature hates perfection, even crystals are not perfect!
Your sub is made by robots, robots are made by humans, humans are animals, living in (deformed) nature... So your sub reflects nature, you have to live with it and respect those defects: they reflect nature!
Remeber, Rolex's motto is "Perfection".

I do feel for the cost of the watches that something as simple and important as the dial should be very very very close to perfect on every watch.
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I have a bubble in my bezel pearl. When I took it to the RSC in Fukuoka, they checked it and said as long as it glows there's no problem. They would replace it, but I'd have to pay for it. I'm used to it now and actually quite like how it makes my watch unique

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Old 1 November 2011, 10:35 PM   #15
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Remeber, Rolex's motto is "Perfection".

I do feel for the cost of the watches that something as simple and important as the dial should be very very very close to perfect on every watch.
I found worst defects on my many times more expensive cars, and I am not so anal about them ... figures...
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As title really.
I've seen a few 'imperfections' threads recently and thought I'd share my own - well, my watches'!.

First time I looked through the loupe I COULD NOT BELIEVE IT.

The 12 lume looks like a badly made pie. At the top is just a shadow but that blob missing from the bottom...well, I ask you.

Never mind, it's not viewable with the naked eye.

Anyone else care to share your "bits that went a little wrong" or "where the elf's hand slipped".
In my Rolex buying days we just went to the AD and bought our Rolex watch.
All we was interested in was the watch and in buying that Rolex watch we new it would last a life time and beyond.And would doubt if anyone was interested in the serials etc as long as it matched the paperwork etc.Regarding the paperwork box etc these were normally just stuck in draw cupboard and forgotten and hope we would never have to use warranty etc.But since the Internet started now with the must have the latest case stamp by some Internet code that is flawed in many ways.And must have all the sticky-back plastic stuff, and some actually willing to pay for bits of plastic like bezel protectors and other purely packaging stuff.And now we have the loupe and must line up perfect mania checking for the tiniest so called flaw.But with high magnification almost every product you look at will have these tiny so called flaws.Rolex watches are mass produced just like most of the Swiss watch industry today.And things like lume are just blobs of paint and when applied there is going to be some very slight variations.With the amount of watches even today that Rolex produce, there will be always a few that to some will have a so called flaw.
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In my Rolex buying days we just went to the AD and bought our Rolex watch.
All we was interested in was the watch and in buying that Rolex watch we new it would last a life time and beyond.And would doubt if anyone was interested in the serials etc as long as it matched the paperwork etc.Regarding the paperwork box etc these were normally just stuck in draw cupboard and forgotten and hope we would never have to use warranty etc.But since the Internet started now with the must have the latest case stamp by some Internet code that is flawed in many ways.And must have all the sticky-back plastic stuff, and some actually willing to pay for bits of plastic like bezel protectors and other purely packaging stuff.And now we have the loupe and must line up perfect mania checking for the tiniest so called flaw.But with high magnification almost every product you look at will have these tiny so called flaws.Rolex watches are mass produced just like most of the Swiss watch industry today.And things like lume are just blobs of paint and when applied there is going to be some very slight variations.With the amount of watches even today that Rolex produce, there will be always a few that to some will have a so called flaw.
x2. Well said...

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Old 1 November 2011, 11:16 PM   #19
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In my Rolex buying days we just went to the AD and bought our Rolex watch.
All we was interested in was the watch and in buying that Rolex watch we new it would last a life time and beyond.And would doubt if anyone was interested in the serials etc as long as it matched the paperwork etc.Regarding the paperwork box etc these were normally just stuck in draw cupboard and forgotten and hope we would never have to use warranty etc.But since the Internet started now with the must have the latest case stamp by some Internet code that is flawed in many ways.And must have all the sticky-back plastic stuff, and some actually willing to pay for bits of plastic like bezel protectors and other purely packaging stuff.And now we have the loupe and must line up perfect mania checking for the tiniest so called flaw.But with high magnification almost every product you look at will have these tiny so called flaws.Rolex watches are mass produced just like most of the Swiss watch industry today.And things like lume are just blobs of paint and when applied there is going to be some very slight variations.With the amount of watches even today that Rolex produce, there will be always a few that to some will have a so called flaw.

I didn't call it a flaw - I called it an imperfection.
I like it - it demonstrates the watch has been through a process.
Others do get rather anal about these things.

My post was a simple I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
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Old 1 November 2011, 11:26 PM   #20
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does it look ok without the loupe?
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I'm O.C.D already if I get the loupe out for my vintage Rolex . I'll have a panic attack.
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Old 1 November 2011, 11:58 PM   #22
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I have a bubble in my bezel pearl. When I took it to the RSC in Fukuoka, they checked it and said as long as it glows there's no problem. They would replace it, but I'd have to pay for it. I'm used to it now and actually quite like how it makes my watch unique

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Old 2 November 2011, 12:09 AM   #25
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I'm O.C.D already if I get the loupe out for my vintage Rolex . I'll have a panic attack.
i think your vintage would stand up to the loupe better than current models.


i had my dial and case frame of the same watch, swapped out for glaring issues that shouldn't have made it through quality control.
lume that was missing visible to the naked eye
and spring bar holes that weren't lined up.


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Man hopes to live in a perfect world, perfect car, perfect wife... But nature hates perfection, even crystals are not perfect!
Your sub is made by robots, robots are made by humans, humans are animals, living in (deformed) nature... So your sub reflects nature, you have to live with it and respect those defects: they reflect nature!
very profound

i agree perfection may not exist in this human world but the higher the price, the closer it "should" bring you or charge $1.99 for everything and lets call it a day and stop our pursuit for anything that inspires passion.

our part is to fork over some cash, their part is to put forth a product that has some sort of quality control & pride (scrap the parts the machine spits out poorly), there is enough profit to justify tossing a dial or case frame or whatever....perhaps greed is to blame. how much does it actually cost to produce a watch vs what is charged? what would the cost of a dial be pennies?


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Cracked pearl. However it appears the lume on my 12 marker is alright.
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i agree perfection may not exist in this human world but the higher the price, the closer it "should" bring you or charge $1.99 for everything and lets call it a day and stop our pursuit for anything that inspires passion.

our part is to fork over some cash, their part is to put forth a product that has some sort of quality control & pride (scrap the parts the machine spits out poorly), there is enough profit to justify tossing a dial or case frame or whatever....perhaps greed is to blame. how much does it actually cost to produce a watch vs what is charged? what would the cost of a dial be pennies?
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You win post of the day.

Absolutely, positively, spot on assessment. Beautiful.

Add: It's one thing if 'you' can live with an error in the product you spent a premium amount of money on. It's another when you tell others that spent their $$$ to live with it. If I wanted mediocrity, theres MANY other companies I can choose from....that are less than 2/3rds the cost.
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I'm O.C.D already if I get the loupe out for my vintage Rolex . I'll have a panic attack.

x 2......
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You win post of the day.

Absolutely, positively, spot on assessment. Beautiful.

Add: It's one thing if 'you' can live with an error in the product you spent a premium amount of money on. It's another when you tell others that spent their $$$ to live with it. If I wanted mediocrity, theres MANY other companies I can choose from....that are less than 2/3rds the cost.
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Not surprised, do you know what they pay them???
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