"TRF Members"

[mrbill2mrbill2]

First off I don't want to single out anyone or piss anyone off.

It is just my own opinion. Why are there "TFR Members" with posts well in excess of 1,000 whom are not a "pledge member" of some sort? Have you not enjoyed this forum? You spend thousands on a watch - but cannot donate $20 - $30 to a forum you enjoy?

Just me.

[perpetualman88]

well said

If you spend lots of time on here donate cuz this forum doesnt keep working for nothing

[JustABreathAway]

Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

First off I don't want to single out anyone or piss anyone off.

It is just my own opinion. Why are there "TFR Members" with posts well in excess of 1,000 whom are not a "pledge member" of some sort? Have you not enjoyed this forum? You spend thousands on a watch - but cannot donate $20 - $30 to a forum you enjoy?

Just me.

Personally, I am hesitant to trust online sources with any form of payment after being involved in a HUGE hack and identification theft fiasco earlier this year.

[77T]

Originally Posted by JustABreathAway

Personally, I am hesitant to trust online sources with any form of payment after being involved in a HUGE hack and identification theft fiasco earlier this year.

Steve should post a way for people to snail mail pledges who prefer it over on-line donations.

[Scott95]

Will do - as soon as 2012 pledges are accepted. I agree, it will be worth every penny.

[F&Iguy]

Originally Posted by Scott95

Will do - as soon as 2012 pledges are accepted. I agree, it will be worth every penny.

X2 I will be very happy to chip in. It would be nice to mail funds X2

[Linzjnr]

Agreed , with tens of thousands of members who enjoy TRF so much I am surprised more people don't wish to pay a small amount to support it Can't be cheap to run, so come on fellow TRF'ers lets make 2012 the year of the Pledge and support Steve & team

[Maxfli]

A small contribution to TRF is money well spent IMHO.

[johnbeth]

I agree, I also suggest that anyone who wishes to post a sell or wanting to purchase ads, that should available to pledge member only!

[Time2time]

Well said!

[JUSTROLEXES]

Also look at the bright side guys this forum offers great TOP DOLLAR Giveaways that are held few times a year
Simple just click on the link below
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=158527

[Dan2010]

Anyone tell me where I can pledge......................?

[JUSTROLEXES]

Originally Posted by Dan2010

Anyone tell me where I can pledge......................?

It looks like you're up to date Dan but here is the link anyway
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=158527

[Dan2010]

Originally Posted by justrolexes

It looks like you're up to date Dan but here is the link anyway
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=158527

I was just being silly........

[FeelingTheBlues]

Another thread has been started about this subject a couple of weeks ago. I posted something in it and will in this one as well: I believe money should be given if people want to. Pledging is indeed a great part of this forum's maintenance but the fact that somebody participates a lot by posting shouldn't force him to donate and he shouldn't be judged in any way because of this neither.

Just my opinion.

[roger0770]

it's a personal choice. if he/she does not feel comfortable doing so, so be it. and there is nothing wrong with it. we all come together to this great community to enjoy and share the passion of horology, especially with a particular brand. this thread does feel somewhat "peer pressure" i have to say

[watchf]

Originally Posted by roger0770

it's a personal choice. if he/she does not feel comfortable doing so, so be it. and there is nothing wrong with it. we all come together to this great community to enjoy and share the passion of horology, especially with a particular brand. this thread does feel somewhat "peer pressure" i have to say

You conveyed my views exactly. Its a personal choice and no one should ever be made to feel 'pressured' in anyway to pledge.

[TheVTCGuy]

I do agree that if a member would rather donate by personal check or money order, there should be a method for them to do so.. A PO Box maybe? Does anyone know if there is one set up? I don't think it would be a big deal for Steve to accept them... although... international checks.... ?


Just a thought.

[johnbeth]

I agree with people donating if they feel, however,whats annoying members been here for a month or two with 17 posts, are in the FS section selling and that sucks.

If you are going to make money out of a forum from selling, then have the descency to become a member and pledge and support the place that is allowing you to make an income.

All the trusted TRF sellers are members!!

I strongly suggest that anyone who wishes to post a sell or wanting to purchase ads, should available to pledge member only!

[FeelingTheBlues]

Originally Posted by johnbeth

I agree with people donating if they feel, however,whats annoying members been here for a month or two with 17 posts, are in the FS section selling and that sucks.

If you are going to make money out of a forum from selling, then have the descency to become a member and pledge and support the place that is allowing you to make an income.

All the trusted TRF sellers are members!!

I strongly suggest that anyone who wishes to post a sell or wanting to purchase ads, should available to pledge member only!

You make an interesting point John and perhaps you find it annoying to see people coming here only to sell some watches (although I strongly doubt they will with a very few posts here and there. Don't forget that people will usually trust a seller with a good reputation that usually comes with a lot of posts rather than a new member who just has 17-18 posts and has been here for three weeks), I can understand it makes this forum look like another ebay made for watches and some people may take advantage of that without respecting its first purpose: talk about watches and form a great community.

However, and this is where I see a problem, like Roger mentionned, it seems to me like this thread is putting some pressure on non-pledging members who have been here for a long time or have posted a lot. Why can't we just be proud and especially humble if we donate money to the forum instead of making non-pledging members look like they just take everything without giving? After all, as I said, pleding isn't an obligation.

As well, I don't believe in the argument of saying some can afford a Rolex but will not donate some money. I find this rather insulting towards them as we don't know what that purchase involved for them and it's none of our business.

[johnbeth]

Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

You make an interesting point John and perhaps you find it annoying to see people coming here only to sell some watches (although I strongly doubt they will with a very few posts here and there. Don't forget that people will usually trust a seller with a good reputation that usually comes with a lot of posts rather than a new member who just has 17-18 posts and has been here for three weeks), I can understand it makes this forum look like another ebay made for watches and some people may take advantage of that without respecting its first purpose: talk about watches and form a great community.

However, and this is where I see a problem, like Roger mentionned, it seems to me like this thread is putting some pressure on non-pledging members who have been here for a long time or have posted a lot. Why can't we just be proud and especially humble if we donate money to the forum instead of making non-pledging members look like they just take everything without giving? After all, as I said, pleding isn't an obligation.

As well, I don't believe in the argument of saying some can afford a Rolex but will not donate some money. I find this rather insulting towards them as we don't know what that purchase involved for them and it's none of our business.

I agree Carl and I have no issue with things as they are. However, for the for sale section, I already have explained my thoughts on that as I feel anyone to post ads should be a paying member. Support the system that supports you to make money. All the excellent TRF sellers here do support the system and always donate to giveaways. Not fair on them to be the only supporters is it??

[NAVY]

Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

You make an interesting point John and perhaps you find it annoying to see people coming here only to sell some watches (although I strongly doubt they will with a very few posts here and there. Don't forget that people will usually trust a seller with a good reputation that usually comes with a lot of posts rather than a new member who just has 17-18 posts and has been here for three weeks), I can understand it makes this forum look like another ebay made for watches and some people may take advantage of that without respecting its first purpose: talk about watches and form a great community.

However, and this is where I see a problem, like Roger mentionned, it seems to me like this thread is putting some pressure on non-pledging members who have been here for a long time or have posted a lot. Why can't we just be proud and especially humble if we donate money to the forum instead of making non-pledging members look like they just take everything without giving? After all, as I said, pleding isn't an obligation.

As well, I don't believe in the argument of saying some can afford a Rolex but will not donate some money. I find this rather insulting towards them as we don't know what that purchase involved for them and it's none of our business.

Very well said Carl!

[theperchik]

Hi,

I have a few small websites that probably have a microscopic amount of traffic compared to this site so my view may be a bit incorrect.

The forum is a vbulletin forum that i believe is a purchase fee and then occasional upgrade fees. So there are def. a few expenses there.

But once the site exists the only cost you should incur is hosting and bandwidth. Judging by the name servers on this URL, i am guessing you have some dedicated hosting. If you can reply (or PM) your space and bandwith requirements I can try and help you find something a bit more affordable.

I am not trying to say i know it all nor do i know how experienced the owner is, or if you use some developers to do all this for you. But I am happy to try and help bring down the cost.

Thanks.
-Paul

[Numismatist]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

You will not find advertising banners popping up or getting in the way because we don't do that, unlike many other sites.

Thank GOD for that, well actually, thank Steve for that!

Originally Posted by theperchik

Hi,

I have a few small websites that probably have a microscopic amount of traffic compared to this site so my view may be a bit incorrect.

The forum is a vbulletin forum that i believe is a purchase fee and then occasional upgrade fees. So there are def. a few expenses there.

But once the site exists the only cost you should incur is hosting and bandwidth. Judging by the name servers on this URL, i am guessing you have some dedicated hosting. If you can reply (or PM) your space and bandwith requirements I can try and help you find something a bit more affordable.

I am not trying to say i know it all nor do i know how experienced the owner is, or if you use some developers to do all this for you. But I am happy to try and help bring down the cost.

Thanks.
-Paul

Can't speak for the forum, but have witnessed numerous hack/malware/DOS attacks over the years that I'm sure cost some dough to remediate.

Even IF the forums was totally free to run, I would still donate because I have learned sooo much from it and have met so many wonderful people. I'd be just as happy if my donation went to the mods for helping out so much and keeping it a well run place. It's just the right thing to do imho.

[GradyPhilpott]

I am in favor of the current system.

It should also be noted user-generated content in and of itself has value.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

Another thread has been started about this subject a couple of weeks ago. I posted something in it and will in this one as well: I believe money should be given if people want to. Pledging is indeed a great part of this forum's maintenance but the fact that somebody participates a lot by posting shouldn't force him to donate and he shouldn't be judged in any way because of this neither.

Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

I am in favor of the current system.

It should also be noted user-generated content in and of itself has value.

Well said.

[threemonkeys]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

I am in favor of the current system.

It should also be noted user-generated content in and of itself has value.

Well said, Grady. Non-pledge members provide meaningful and insightful comments on TRF. To diminish the value that this group makes to the forum based on individuals' pre-conceived expectations is wrong (insert obligatory 'IMHO' here). That is, many TRF members already contribute to various philanthropic causes. And the fact that they do not currently contribute to TRF, does not preclude them from doing so in the future. In addition, members may not have the current resources to provide financial support at the present time (yes, I know it's 'only' $25).

So how about we all lighten-up a bit and stop the silly peer pressure postings for awhile.

[mrbill2mrbill2]

Originally Posted by threemonkeys

Well said, Grady. Non-pledge members provide meaningful and insightful comments on TRF. To diminish the value that this group makes to the forum based on individuals' pre-conceived expectations is wrong (insert obligatory 'IMHO' here). That is, many TRF members already contribute to various philanthropic causes. And the fact that they do not currently contribute to TRF, does not preclude them from doing so in the future. In addition, members may not have the current resources to provide financial support at the present time (yes, I know it's 'only' $25).

So how about we all lighten-up a bit and stop the silly peer pressure postings for awhile.

If they cannot afford $25 - $28 how do they afford internet access?

Let's be honest!!

[ArcticMoose]

Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

If they cannot afford $25 - $28 how do they afford internet access?

I'm not disputing that $25 is probably a negligible amount for most members, but Internet access can be had for nothing most anywhere in the world.

[threemonkeys]

Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

If they cannot afford $25 - $28 how do they afford internet access?

Let's be honest!!

Perhaps providing financial support for TRF at this moment in time simply isn't a priority for some people.