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herbie911 · 16 January 2012, 07:15 AM

Hi Guys and Gals,
As I am only a beginner in watch collecting, I just need some friendly advice!
I am thinking about getting a Submariner as I am starting to admire how gorgeous it looks through the shop window and the watch looks amazing on my wrist. I am still not certain which one to go for especially the price difference between the ND sub and ceramic sub is more than £1000. Just wonder what is the advantage of the ceramic bezel? I am not to bother with the date function!

I am thinking about selling my late 60s ss oysterdate model 1501 to fund this purchase. How much should I expect an authorised dealer will offer me? The watch had just been service by Rolex which include an overhaul and new crown. So I got the receipt but no box and papers!
Many thanks for your help!
Herbie

Mickey® · 16 January 2012, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herbie911

Hi Guys and Gals,
As I am only a beginner in watch collecting, I just need some friendly advice!
I am thinking about getting a Submariner as I am starting to admire how gorgeous it looks through the shop window and the watch looks amazing on my wrist. I am still not certain which one to go for especially the price difference between the ND sub and ceramic sub is more than £1000. Just wonder what is the advantage of the ceramic bezel? I am not to bother with the date function!

I am thinking about selling my late 60s ss oysterdate model 1501 to fund this purchase. How much should I expect an authorised dealer will offer me? The watch had just been service by Rolex which include an overhaul and new crown. So I got the receipt but no box and papers!
Many thanks for your help!
Herbie

Depending on condition and since it was serviced by Rolex I'd say $1250 to $1700...All depends on who wants it and how bad you want to sell it.

That's just my guess seeing what's on eBay and again if you had a FULL Rolex Service.

tkerrmd · 16 January 2012, 01:39 PM

New sub with the ceramic dial is the way to go. Includes all the latest case,bezel, and bracelet upgrades! State of the Rolex art and well worth the extra $

Lion · 16 January 2012, 01:44 PM

Either watch is very nice to have just depends on how much you want to spend!!!

Maxfli · 16 January 2012, 02:01 PM

Each watch has its own merits. You can't make a wrong decision with this one.

GradyPhilpott · 16 January 2012, 02:07 PM

Either would be a wise choice, but I prefer the 14060M model with no date.

Can we see a picture of your OysterDate?

That must be nice.

masterdinh · 16 January 2012, 02:51 PM

Gotta go Ceramic sub if you can. The adjustable buckle is so worth it. I wish I never parted with mine. Go Ceramic.

dddrees · 16 January 2012, 09:22 PM

Either watch would be a great choice. The ceramic insert is supposed to be more scratch resistent, however then again if it were to crack it would be a whole lot more expensive to replace than the older aluminum insert. Besides the ceramic insert there are a number of other differences to include the case size, no lug holes, maxi dial, bracelet, and clasp. You just need to determine which one you prefer the most and if you are willing to pay more for the ceramic version.

jdc · 16 January 2012, 09:24 PM

I would go for the new ceramic sub easily best of the newer additions for me. I don't think you will get much from a dealer- as a trade in expect around £600. I would keep it as a dress watch - most of the UK AD's are doing 0% finance if you want to bridge the gap

bigwatchman · 16 January 2012, 10:55 PM

No date sub. Easy. Not a fan of the ceramics. Bezel too expensive to replace if damaged. Like the classic looks of the 14060. Besides, original style case is just plain cool.

Aventura · 16 January 2012, 11:26 PM

Each has its own taste. I prefer the 14060. Even just a year ago I could get very lucky when I got a new 16610 Sub.Date from an authorized dealer now if I could get a GMT II Pepsi, Coke or Black new also buy it immediately. Besides these watches were worth less because the ceramic bezel is more expensive besides other improvements guess.
But like I said .. is a matter of taste. I love Rolex.

petesjag · 17 January 2012, 02:22 AM

Keep your Rolex and get the newer sub, then you will have the best of both worlds, old and new..

danberger · 17 January 2012, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tkerrmd

New sub with the ceramic dial is the way to go. Includes all the latest case,bezel, and bracelet upgrades! State of the Rolex art and well worth the extra $

x2 as you will have a much more useable watch that you can wear everyday.

don't part-ex the old Rolex as dealers will give you a poor deal - no AD will put that watch in their 2nd hand inventory - they will just sell on to another dealer

you could try selling it on a respected forum like TZ-UK; or even consign it to a local auction house that does watch sales

herbie911 · 17 January 2012, 05:03 AM

Many thanks for all the kind reply.
I actually feel a little bad selling this watch. This Rolex is my very first Rolex. It was a gift from my dad when I finished university. He bought the watch in the late sixties when his very first Rolex he bought for himself was stolen from him---he was mugged after he did a home visit to help an elderly patient in distress. I have a chat with him about selling the watch and he said sell it but please do lend him the new sub when he go partying!
I think I will try ebay. If no luck, I will keep it and sell my Tudor Hydranault Prince Date instead!

herbie911 · 17 January 2012, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Either would be a wise choice, but I prefer the 14060M model with no date.

Can we see a picture of your OysterDate?

That must be nice.

hatidua · 17 January 2012, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herbie911

Many thanks for all the kind reply.
I actually feel a little bad selling this watch. This Rolex is my very first Rolex. It was a gift from my dad when I finished university.

Keep it, or regret selling it in the future. I came very close to selling my first Rolex about 15 years ago and am so very thankful that I didn't go through with it.

petee1997 · 17 January 2012, 06:00 AM

I don't know how you can sell your father's watch. The market value is not significant and when the watch is gone, it's gone. All that is left is regret,and for very little money. Keep the gift and buy the new sub 116610LN. The no date you will regret in time.

Cabaiguan · 17 January 2012, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by petee1997

I don't know how you can sell your father's watch. The market value is not significant and when the watch is gone, it's gone. All that is left is regret,and for very little money. Keep the gift and buy the new sub 116610LN. The no date you will regret in time.

So true. You may regret selling your old man's watch one day down the road. Keep it and save up for a new one.

Cyberintercept · 17 January 2012, 06:39 AM

Go into the AD and try on the 14060M and the 116610!

One of them will "sing" to you. So many different variables to consider, go with what your initial instinct tells you.

Would recommend getting the Submariner before even considering selling your Dad's watch...

16 January 2012, 07:15 AM	#1
herbie911 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: united kingdom Posts: 445	Selling my old piece and getting a new watch! Hi Guys and Gals, As I am only a beginner in watch collecting, I just need some friendly advice! I am thinking about getting a Submariner as I am starting to admire how gorgeous it looks through the shop window and the watch looks amazing on my wrist. I am still not certain which one to go for especially the price difference between the ND sub and ceramic sub is more than £1000. Just wonder what is the advantage of the ceramic bezel? I am not to bother with the date function! I am thinking about selling my late 60s ss oysterdate model 1501 to fund this purchase. How much should I expect an authorised dealer will offer me? The watch had just been service by Rolex which include an overhaul and new crown. So I got the receipt but no box and papers! Many thanks for your help! Herbie

16 January 2012, 01:44 PM	#4
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Either watch is very nice to have just depends on how much you want to spend!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

16 January 2012, 02:01 PM	#5
Maxfli "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: U.S. Watch: Sub Date 16610 Posts: 573	Each watch has its own merits. You can't make a wrong decision with this one. __________________ ~ TRF MEMBER 38,553 ~

16 January 2012, 02:07 PM	#6
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK047 Posts: 34,460	Either would be a wise choice, but I prefer the 14060M model with no date. Can we see a picture of your OysterDate? That must be nice. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

16 January 2012, 02:51 PM	#7
masterdinh "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mexico Watch: 116610-LV Posts: 704	Gotta go Ceramic sub if you can. The adjustable buckle is so worth it. I wish I never parted with mine. Go Ceramic. __________________ 116500LN Black, 116500LN White 116613LB, 116610 LV 116660 Deep Blue, 126600 116710 BLNR, 326934 Black PAM 24

16 January 2012, 01:39 PM	#3
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	New sub with the ceramic dial is the way to go. Includes all the latest case,bezel, and bracelet upgrades! State of the Rolex art and well worth the extra $

16 January 2012, 09:22 PM	#8
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	Either watch would be a great choice. The ceramic insert is supposed to be more scratch resistent, however then again if it were to crack it would be a whole lot more expensive to replace than the older aluminum insert. Besides the ceramic insert there are a number of other differences to include the case size, no lug holes, maxi dial, bracelet, and clasp. You just need to determine which one you prefer the most and if you are willing to pay more for the ceramic version. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

16 January 2012, 09:24 PM	#9
jdc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: UK Posts: 7,023	I would go for the new ceramic sub easily best of the newer additions for me. I don't think you will get much from a dealer- as a trade in expect around £600. I would keep it as a dress watch - most of the UK AD's are doing 0% finance if you want to bridge the gap

16 January 2012, 10:55 PM	#10
bigwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Scott Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,307	No date sub. Easy. Not a fan of the ceramics. Bezel too expensive to replace if damaged. Like the classic looks of the 14060. Besides, original style case is just plain cool.

16 January 2012, 11:26 PM	#11
Aventura "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Miami Beach FL US Posts: 1,425	I prefer the 14060 Each has its own taste. I prefer the 14060. Even just a year ago I could get very lucky when I got a new 16610 Sub.Date from an authorized dealer now if I could get a GMT II Pepsi, Coke or Black new also buy it immediately. Besides these watches were worth less because the ceramic bezel is more expensive besides other improvements guess. But like I said .. is a matter of taste. I love Rolex.

17 January 2012, 02:22 AM	#12
petesjag "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,177	Keep your Rolex and get the newer sub, then you will have the best of both worlds, old and new..

17 January 2012, 05:03 AM	#14
herbie911 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: united kingdom Posts: 445	Many thanks for all the kind reply. I actually feel a little bad selling this watch. This Rolex is my very first Rolex. It was a gift from my dad when I finished university. He bought the watch in the late sixties when his very first Rolex he bought for himself was stolen from him---he was mugged after he did a home visit to help an elderly patient in distress. I have a chat with him about selling the watch and he said sell it but please do lend him the new sub when he go partying! I think I will try ebay. If no luck, I will keep it and sell my Tudor Hydranault Prince Date instead!

17 January 2012, 06:00 AM	#17
petee1997 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Ontario,Canada Posts: 100	I don't know how you can sell your father's watch. The market value is not significant and when the watch is gone, it's gone. All that is left is regret,and for very little money. Keep the gift and buy the new sub 116610LN. The no date you will regret in time.

17 January 2012, 06:39 AM	#19
Cyberintercept "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Sean Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: Rolex, VC, Panerai Posts: 86	Go into the AD and try on the 14060M and the 116610! One of them will "sing" to you. So many different variables to consider, go with what your initial instinct tells you. Would recommend getting the Submariner before even considering selling your Dad's watch...

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