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nowzen · 26 February 2012, 08:41 PM

Some ugly watches there... so many diamonds you can't tell the time.
Proof that money doesn't buy taste.

http://online.wsj.com/video/hong-kon...DEC997F98.html

kkwn98 · 26 February 2012, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nowzen

Some ugly watches there... so many diamonds you can't tell the time.
Proof that money doesn't buy taste.

http://online.wsj.com/video/hong-kon...DEC997F98.html

Thanks for the link. Very tenuous connection with Rolex for this particular forum.... but I didn't really see any "ugly" watches there, only some watches I personally would not wear.

As for the "money/taste" thing, as I previously said in another thread, if I had to choose between having a lot of money and no taste, and having no money and a lot of taste, I would go with the money, every single time.

dddrees · 26 February 2012, 09:53 PM

The tourbillon and minute repeater was very very nice. Thanks for sharing.

Postnikov · 26 February 2012, 10:13 PM

As grandmother always said: pecuniam not olet!!!

93 Turbo · 26 February 2012, 10:35 PM

Wife's heading over to HK tonight. I'll get her to check them out. Mind you I have asked her to look at a 116234 jubilee bracelet with diamond dial & the new Exp II for me.

Thanks for the link...

gregmoeck · 26 February 2012, 11:43 PM

excellent video, thank you

Kingair · 26 February 2012, 11:54 PM

Ugly watches ?
The only thing I saw where for me un payable watches ...
We'll I don't like diamonds anyway (for a men).
But that's everybody owns personal choice.

The only watches that I like in this price range are the Richard Mille.
Beautiful, complicated, carbon, new materials . . . . love them

FremStar · 27 February 2012, 01:57 AM

First of all thank you for sharing this clip with us nowzen, second of all allow me to embed the clip for folks to see...

I don't want to stir the pot here as we all know how some folks here believe timepieces with brilliants are tacky, however, I saw pieces of artwork in those clips, the VC Patrimony!!!!!

... There is nothing classless about having a butler serve a potential client $2.5mm worth of timepieces on a platter like they are serving gourmet cornflakes

To quote the gent in the clip he says "European customers typically ask how much for that watch, where Chinese customers ask how many do you have!" is a statement onto itself! Great WSJ video! HAGD!

Keeperoftime · 27 February 2012, 02:30 AM

This video shows a pretty Soul-less approach to buying watches. An interesting video, nonetheless. Thanks for sharing.

Ps I would not mind that VC Tourbillion!!!

xhype · 27 February 2012, 02:51 AM

funny thing when the guy said you can tell the time with your phone.

z0mghenry · 27 February 2012, 04:08 AM

They're mentality is totally opposite from the ones we have here in this forum. They do use those watches as a show of status and they do not try to hide that.

Speed · 27 February 2012, 05:27 AM

Thanks for the link. Loved the piece.

Guess I won't be buying any of those watches...I like stainless steel ;-)

BTW, is it just me...or would a minute repeater become very annoying, very quickly? I'm just saying...

perpetualman88 · 27 February 2012, 05:47 AM

not a fan of the first two but the VC tourbillion sign me up

experimentjon · 27 February 2012, 06:08 AM

Europeans: "How much is that watch?"
Chinese: "How many do you have?"

The amount of wealth in China is staggering. Great video, thanks for sharing!

Rsvrider · 27 February 2012, 06:25 AM

Great vid. Some pieces were disturbing while others were clearly works of art.
Thanks for sharing

thewatchguy93 · 27 February 2012, 06:25 AM

What a great video!!!! Thanks for sharing man

Lion · 27 February 2012, 06:38 AM

Thanx...very interesting it's also fun to see the difference in mind set between Asian buyers in Hong Kong and how the Western world buyers look at and perceive luxury items!!!

hennabav · 27 February 2012, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Lion

Thanx...very interesting it's also fun to see the difference in mind set between Asian buyers in Hong Kong and how the Western world buyers look at and perceive luxury items!!!

It's mainly the mainlanders who are conspicuous spenders! HK not so much and are very much like westerners. Money is no problem as long as you have what they want. Westerners can't even compare on the same level. There was a statistic recently, if the mainlanders didn't travel to HK for luxury items, about 700k jobs would be lost. Can't wait to go on my trip to HK next month...back home!!

superdelsol · 27 February 2012, 07:42 AM

At the 45 second mark, there is a 2 tone Datejust with diamond Jubilee dial, and it seems to be running backwards. Can someone explain this?

GEO_79 · 27 February 2012, 07:49 AM

no bad video...too much blig for me

FremStar · 27 February 2012, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

Thanks for the link. Loved the piece.

Guess I won't be buying any of those watches...I like stainless steel ;-)

BTW, is it just me...or would a minute repeater become very annoying, very quickly? I'm just saying...

It might just be you Bill... To handle a minute repeater timepiece is to understand fine horological art!

ktam · 27 February 2012, 09:19 AM

I love to count the total Rolex displays in HKG. They are just everywhere, and being a chinese born in HKG, my parents always said you need to own a Rolex watch regardless how rich/poor you are living in a mansion or public housing. It has resale value!

ktam · 27 February 2012, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hennabav

It's mainly the mainlanders who are conspicuous spenders! HK not so much and are very much like westerners. Money is no problem as long as you have what they want. Westerners can't even compare on the same level. There was a statistic recently, if the mainlanders didn't travel to HK for luxury items, about 700k jobs would be lost. Can't wait to go on my trip to HK next month...back home!!

Agree with that, HKG people do like to buy Rolex with manner, and know what they want, so try the watch and buy it or negotiate any deals. On the other hand, look at all the people queuing up outside all the luxury stores in HKG, they are mainly from Mainland China (simply to avoid the luxury tax). You can't walk in to any stores in HKG as a HKG Chinese or enjoy the shopping experience in luxury stores anymore.

The mainland tourists do buy in bulk with cash.

gwalker · 27 February 2012, 09:25 AM

Wouldn't say those were ugly. Not my taste either. But IMO just because it's not to my liking doesn't mean the people that do have bad taste. If everyone wanted the same thing Rolex could get by on 1 model. Vanilla gets old after a while.

Speed · 27 February 2012, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FremStar

It might just be you Bill... To handle a minute repeater timepiece is to understand fine horological art!

I love Art Sam...and I appreciate the craftsmanship. However, "ding ding ding" when I am in a meeting at work-or on a conference call???
Not so much

Gaijin · 27 February 2012, 09:29 AM

Nice..

FremStar · 27 February 2012, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

I love Art Sam...and I appreciate the craftsmanship. However, "ding ding ding" when I am in a meeting at work-or on a conference call???not so much

the feature can be shut off, however, I hear you sir! Hope you had a good day!

david_ord · 27 February 2012, 11:04 AM

Wow. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!!

I worked in Hong Kong for a year. I'd heard of the status/materialism thing before I got there, but it was beyond the scope of my imagination. The extent to which they'd get dressed up at the night clubs, I thought I was standing in the middle of a fashion show.

Speed · 27 February 2012, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FremStar

the feature can be shut off, however, I hear you sir! Hope you had a good day!

Right...Perhaps I can get one and let it "ding, ding, ding" all day long after I "make it" and don't give a poop what anyone else thinks.

Thanks Sam. Had a nice day. Good conversation over a pint with some TRFers at a little GTG today. Dr. Robert may be posting a pic soon.

Same to you

globalmedia33 · 27 February 2012, 11:50 AM

Wow...

26 February 2012, 08:41 PM	#1
nowzen "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 741	Hong Kong Bling Some ugly watches there... so many diamonds you can't tell the time. Proof that money doesn't buy taste. http://online.wsj.com/video/hong-kon...DEC997F98.html __________________ *Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons*

26 February 2012, 09:53 PM	#3
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	The tourbillon and minute repeater was very very nice. Thanks for sharing. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

26 February 2012, 10:13 PM	#4
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27 February 2012, 01:57 AM	#8
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	First of all thank you for sharing this clip with us nowzen, second of all allow me to embed the clip for folks to see... I don't want to stir the pot here as we all know how some folks here believe timepieces with brilliants are tacky, however, I saw pieces of artwork in those clips, the VC Patrimony!!!!! ... There is nothing classless about having a butler serve a potential client $2.5mm worth of timepieces on a platter like they are serving gourmet cornflakes To quote the gent in the clip he says "European customers typically ask how much for that watch, where Chinese customers ask how many do you have!" is a statement onto itself! Great WSJ video! HAGD! __________________ "Wealth is of the heart and mind, not of the pocket!" "A Watch Is An Emotional Object, And So, It Is The Responsibility Of The Brand To Create Emotion Through It's Products" - Georges Kern "In the 1950s and 60s, they made the Ref 8171, which is a cult collectible—now that’s the ultimate Rolex you could own with a calendar and a moon phase.” - John Reardon "Heh, heh, heh..." - Michael Kilyung

27 February 2012, 02:30 AM	#9
Keeperoftime "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Jeremy Location: Louisiana Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,732	This video shows a pretty Soul-less approach to buying watches. An interesting video, nonetheless. Thanks for sharing. Ps I would not mind that VC Tourbillion!!! __________________ As a man is, so he sees. As the eye is formed, such are its powers. William Blake

26 February 2012, 10:35 PM	#5
93 Turbo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Australia Watch: Rolex.Tudor.PAM Posts: 1,554	Wife's heading over to HK tonight. I'll get her to check them out. Mind you I have asked her to look at a 116234 jubilee bracelet with diamond dial & the new Exp II for me. Thanks for the link...

26 February 2012, 11:43 PM	#6
gregmoeck "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Maui Watch: Patek Posts: 2,032	excellent video, thank you

26 February 2012, 11:54 PM	#7
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	Ugly watches ? The only thing I saw where for me un payable watches ... We'll I don't like diamonds anyway (for a men). But that's everybody owns personal choice. The only watches that I like in this price range are the Richard Mille. Beautiful, complicated, carbon, new materials . . . . love them

27 February 2012, 02:51 AM	#10
xhype "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Michael Location: Brooklyn,NY Watch: Rolex GMT II 16710 Posts: 850	funny thing when the guy said you can tell the time with your phone.

27 February 2012, 04:08 AM	#11
z0mghenry "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Henry Location: GA Posts: 617	They're mentality is totally opposite from the ones we have here in this forum. They do use those watches as a show of status and they do not try to hide that.

27 February 2012, 05:27 AM	#12
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Thanks for the link. Loved the piece. Guess I won't be buying any of those watches...I like stainless steel ;-) BTW, is it just me...or would a minute repeater become very annoying, very quickly? I'm just saying...

27 February 2012, 05:47 AM	#13
perpetualman88 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: David Farkas Location: Los Angeles Watch: 116610, 5712/1A Posts: 8,182	not a fan of the first two but the VC tourbillion sign me up __________________ Instagram: @SwissWatchTime

27 February 2012, 06:08 AM	#14
experimentjon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Jonathan Location: Honolulu Posts: 292	Europeans: "How much is that watch?" Chinese: "How many do you have?" The amount of wealth in China is staggering. Great video, thanks for sharing!

27 February 2012, 06:25 AM	#15
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27 February 2012, 06:25 AM	#16
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27 February 2012, 06:38 AM	#17
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Thanx...very interesting it's also fun to see the difference in mind set between Asian buyers in Hong Kong and how the Western world buyers look at and perceive luxury items!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

27 February 2012, 07:42 AM	#19
superdelsol "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Scott Location: Arizona, USA Watch: your 6. Posts: 388	At the 45 second mark, there is a 2 tone Datejust with diamond Jubilee dial, and it seems to be running backwards. Can someone explain this? __________________ "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." Dr. Richard P. Feynman, Rogers Commission Report, Appendix F, 9 June 1986

27 February 2012, 07:49 AM	#20
GEO_79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Georgian Location: Constanta_Romania Watch: 216570 Polar Posts: 904	no bad video...too much blig for me

27 February 2012, 09:19 AM	#22
ktam "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Watch: GMTIIc 116713LN Posts: 198	I love to count the total Rolex displays in HKG. They are just everywhere, and being a chinese born in HKG, my parents always said you need to own a Rolex watch regardless how rich/poor you are living in a mansion or public housing. It has resale value!

27 February 2012, 09:25 AM	#24
gwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Gunter Location: AL/NJ Watch: DSSD; 116610LN Posts: 5,509	Wouldn't say those were ugly. Not my taste either. But IMO just because it's not to my liking doesn't mean the people that do have bad taste. If everyone wanted the same thing Rolex could get by on 1 model. Vanilla gets old after a while.

27 February 2012, 09:29 AM	#26
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	Nice..

27 February 2012, 11:04 AM	#28
david_ord Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: David Location: Florida, USA Watch: Deep Sea 116660 Posts: 495	Wow. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!! I worked in Hong Kong for a year. I'd heard of the status/materialism thing before I got there, but it was beyond the scope of my imagination. The extent to which they'd get dressed up at the night clubs, I thought I was standing in the middle of a fashion show.

27 February 2012, 11:50 AM	#30
globalmedia33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Thien Location: Frisco,TX/Saigon Watch: All Rolex Posts: 2,754	Wow... __________________ Sub. 5513 116710LN 116610LV “I THINK PERFECTION IS UGLY. SOMEWHERE IN THE THINGS HUMANS MAKE, I WANT TO SEE SCARS, FAILURE, DISORDER AND DISTORTION" - YOHJI YAMAMOTO

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