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Tudor66 · 10 March 2012, 10:47 AM

I need some expert eyes to figure out if this bracelet is a worthy addition to my 7928 Tudor Submariner.

I've never seen a real Rivet bracelet, and I really have no experience with vintage bracelets. My thinking is that the "Rolex USA" is a giveaway that this bracelet is junk. Also, the endlink pieces are mismatched, and they have no markings on them...

What do you think...? I've seen some bracelets on the internet that look similar, and others quite different... What am I looking at here...are these items: (i) Good bracelet, (ii) Franken (some good), or (iii) junk.

imono · 10 March 2012, 11:32 AM

The answer is (i).

Here is my former 14K gold clasp from 1969.
And it can stretch too.

Tudor66 · 10 March 2012, 12:52 PM

Hey thanks that's good news, but shouldn't the end links have some type of number on them, these are blank....

larryccf · 10 March 2012, 12:55 PM

on the VRF and iirc, the Rolex USA bracelets didn't necessarily have numbered endlinks

you might post this over there and see what those guys respond

Tudor66 · 10 March 2012, 01:03 PM

I'll do that. thanks,...

Al

springer · 10 March 2012, 02:16 PM

The C&I bracelets do not have end link numbers. They are an outstanding band for vintage Rolex. Throw it my way if you don't want it.

RLX-lvr · 10 March 2012, 02:25 PM

Your bracelet is genuine.

All USA made bracelets are stamped C & I
As well the endlinks are not stamped with any numbers, just left blank.

Generally the USA rivet bracelets are less expensive to buy on the used market.

Jeff

Tudor66 · 10 March 2012, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springer

The C&I bracelets do not have end link numbers. They are an outstanding band for vintage Rolex. Throw it my way if you don't want it.

Thanks, is it worth $300 dollars, because that's what I was thinking about offering for it...?

springer · 10 March 2012, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newbieone

Thanks, is it worth $300 dollars, because that's what I was thinking about offering for it...?

Sure is. It needs a little work but is very repairable.

springer · 10 March 2012, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RLX-lvr

Your bracelet is genuine.

All USA made bracelets are stamped C & I
As well the endlinks are not stamped with any numbers, just left blank.

Generally the USA rivet bracelets are less expensive to buy on the used market.

Jeff

Jeff, while many USA bracelets were made by C&I, not all USA made bracelets are marked C&I who was a manufacturer of bracelets for Rolex. Many USA bracelets are only marked Stainless Steel, Rolex, USA. Then you have the JB bands which are also marked JB and USA.

Goiguidoc · 11 March 2012, 07:16 PM

I love these US rivet bands, especially the stretchable ones.
They are really comfortable.
The end links fit well cases if you adjust them properly.
Yours is genuine and looks in good condition.
As John said in a previous thread, these C&I bands are not yet copied.

10 March 2012, 10:47 AM	#1
Tudor66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Al Location: California, USA Watch: GMT- Pepsi Posts: 3,462	FrankenRivetBracelet help... I need some expert eyes to figure out if this bracelet is a worthy addition to my 7928 Tudor Submariner. I've never seen a real Rivet bracelet, and I really have no experience with vintage bracelets. My thinking is that the "Rolex USA" is a giveaway that this bracelet is junk. Also, the endlink pieces are mismatched, and they have no markings on them... What do you think...? I've seen some bracelets on the internet that look similar, and others quite different... What am I looking at here...are these items: (i) Good bracelet, (ii) Franken (some good), or (iii) junk. Attached Images __________________ -NAWCC Member

10 March 2012, 11:32 AM	#2
imono "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3,241	The answer is (i). Here is my former 14K gold clasp from 1969. And it can stretch too. Attached Images

10 March 2012, 12:52 PM	#3
Tudor66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Al Location: California, USA Watch: GMT- Pepsi Posts: 3,462	Hey thanks that's good news, but shouldn't the end links have some type of number on them, these are blank.... __________________ -NAWCC Member

10 March 2012, 12:55 PM	#4
larryccf "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: richmond, va Posts: 541	pretty sure i've seen some like those up for sale on the VRF and iirc, the Rolex USA bracelets didn't necessarily have numbered endlinks you might post this over there and see what those guys respond

10 March 2012, 01:03 PM	#5
Tudor66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Al Location: California, USA Watch: GMT- Pepsi Posts: 3,462	numbers... I'll do that. thanks,... Al __________________ -NAWCC Member

10 March 2012, 02:16 PM	#6
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	The C&I bracelets do not have end link numbers. They are an outstanding band for vintage Rolex. Throw it my way if you don't want it. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

10 March 2012, 02:25 PM	#7
RLX-lvr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: Toronto Posts: 1,947	Your bracelet is genuine. All USA made bracelets are stamped C & I As well the endlinks are not stamped with any numbers, just left blank. Generally the USA rivet bracelets are less expensive to buy on the used market. Jeff

11 March 2012, 07:16 PM	#11
Goiguidoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: Europe Watch: Rolex vintage Posts: 1,062	I love these US rivet bands, especially the stretchable ones. They are really comfortable. The end links fit well cases if you adjust them properly. Yours is genuine and looks in good condition. As John said in a previous thread, these C&I bands are not yet copied.

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