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Spunga · 19 March 2012, 04:43 AM

I got up around 5:30am GMT this morning to watch the Grand Prix, and with a few minutes before the start of the race I thought I'd have a look thru some of my saved searches on eBay. It was a search for Rolex's in the UK.

First item was a SS Daytona. The images looked okay, came with the full set of box and papers etc. Checked the description and all looked ok.

Now, to be honest I'm not actually in the market for a Daytona, but I like to look anyway, I then noticed a major descrepency that sets all the alarm bells ringing.....the item was not an auction item but a buy it now......for only £100.

First thought as usual, it's a fake, but the images looked good. The seller is of low rating, but because I'm an awkward sod and knowing I've some protection from paypal, I thought what the hell. If somebody has made a mistake, then I will see what happens. So I bought the item. Committed to pay immediately to complete the transaction, I paid my hard earned £100 via paypal instantly.

The item is as follows...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1906546781...84.m1439.l2649

Around six hours later I get an email from the seller.......

"Dear spunga,

You do realize this watch is for £8,000 not £100? And i also said that i don't accept Paypal? I know it was as buy it now for £100 but i only did this because i am a new seller eBay won't let me sell anything for more than £3,500 and i just need to sell this watch so i had no choice, sorry about that but i'm not selling it for £100.

Thanks, Debbie

- sales.auditor.100"

What would you do next??????

The Joker · 19 March 2012, 04:49 AM

Get my £100 back and forget it.

Jocke · 19 March 2012, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunga

I got up around 5:30am GMT this morning to watch the Grand Prix, and with a few minutes before the start of the race I thought I'd have a look thru some of my saved searches on eBay. It was a search for Rolex's in the UK.

First item was a SS Daytona. The images looked okay, came with the full set of box and papers etc. Checked the description and all looked ok.

Now, to be honest I'm not actually in the market for a Daytona, but I like to look anyway, I then noticed a major descrepency that sets all the alarm bells ringing.....the item was not an auction item but a buy it now......for only £100.

First thought as usual, it's a fake, but the images looked good. The seller is of low rating, but because I'm an awkward sod and knowing I've some protection from paypal, I thought what the hell. If somebody has made a mistake, then I will see what happens. So I bought the item. Committed to pay immediately to complete the transaction, I paid my hard earned £100 via paypal instantly.

The item is as follows...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1906546781...84.m1439.l2649

Around six hours later I get an email from the seller.......

"Dear spunga,

You do realize this watch is for £8,000 not £100? And i also said that i don't accept Paypal? I know it was as buy it now for £100 but i only did this because i am a new seller eBay won't let me sell anything for more than £3,500 and i just need to sell this watch so i had no choice, sorry about that but i'm not selling it for £100.

Thanks, Debbie

- sales.auditor.100"

What would you do next??????

I guess it was a mistake from the seller and I guess within the EU, the auction is binding. Then if you want
to run it the whole way or you realize you never will get the watch for £100 it's up to you. I don't believe you will
be happy with the watch when you know you have got it in this way if that happend. All people can made a mistake,
that don't mean they should pay premium for it.

Just my point of view.

Grumpy Badger · 19 March 2012, 05:02 AM

To me she didn't make a mistake... She was deliberately trying to circumvent the rules.

I'd despute it with eBay and take her to the small claims court if necessary. I wouldn't get screwed up about it but I'd try everything within reason to hold her to the legally binding contract she willingly entered into!

horseco · 19 March 2012, 05:10 AM

Let it go & move on... life is too short...

DoxaDavid · 19 March 2012, 05:17 AM

She stated in her ad what the sales price was and that she didn't accept PayPal. The buy it now would not be in itself a binding contract so no, she doesn't have to honor it but I probably would report her to EBay as this is a violation of their rules. She could have posted the watch for sale on a regular forum such as TRF which does to have such restrictions.

Debbie, Debbie...

GoldenBear · 19 March 2012, 05:31 AM

I don't know much about paypal, I guess you are able to get your 100 back...But I wonder if dozens of people sent 100 each, and she was able to keep it, she could make some easy money.

usbzoso · 19 March 2012, 05:38 AM

you'd be wasting your time trying to force her to ship you the daytona, even if she did how will you feel about yourself? i wouldnt feel comfortable accepting such a deal ... just move on and do it the right way

masterserg · 19 March 2012, 05:43 AM

Does not look like a mistake. She tried to bend the rules. Even so, I would let it go. It is not right.

Timber Loftis · 19 March 2012, 05:59 AM

I would quit trying to be the sort of person who expects something for nothing, that's what I'd do. You can try to pull off your "gotcha" and see if you can enforce the contract. If you do, though, you become the reason why we all hate a litigious society.

Spunga · 19 March 2012, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoxaDavid

She stated in her ad what the sales price was and that she didn't accept PayPal.

She could sell it for whatever, there is no limit. The seller is probably aware PayPal may hold the funds until safe to release the money.

The sellers item description clearly stated "I am accepting direct bank transfer, i accept Paypal for items under £500". I met that criteria.

Anyway that's just nitpicking.

The reason for posting was that it happened for real and I'm having a very wierd day and this was the start.
I thought it a very interesting dilemma to post.

One thing that I do struggle with a little is the name 'sales.auditor.100'.

I hate auditors. Grrrrrrrrr

Did you think it wrong if I let her sweat it out bit? Or am I being a bit mean?

lebowski321 · 19 March 2012, 06:33 AM

I'd just let it go. Not worth it IMO.

z32turbo · 19 March 2012, 06:42 AM

I think if you do anything your only going to end up with time wasted and no watch as an end result. Your choice but I'd forget about it and just get my £100 back.

threemonkeys · 19 March 2012, 07:17 AM

I would file an eBay complaint just to keep her a little more honest in the future.

Edit: this seller is an idiot. I went ahead and sent a complaint to eBay.

MoBe · 19 March 2012, 08:46 AM

Take yer hundred quid back.

Welshwatchman · 19 March 2012, 10:41 PM

I saw this last night and could see that it was an off-Ebay solicitation.

You'll get your £100 back no problem.

Ebay should just "off" the seller.

Scary Hat · 19 March 2012, 11:28 PM

Personally, I would never try to enforce a contract where I knew or had reason to know that it was an obvious error on the part of the seller or buyer.

Sales should be in good faith. Do the right thing and let it go

Tom

hsfrank · 20 March 2012, 12:28 AM

While I agree that you should just get your money back from paypal, I fail to see why some think it was an error on the sellerspart. Her email made it clear that she listed it for that sum in violation of ebays rules to entice a buyer at her price off ebay. Report it to ebay.

mbuckley · 20 March 2012, 01:02 AM

Multiply your hourly rate by your bother and you will have your cost-----not even close to worth it----there is a Forrest Gump quote somewhere about this---do teh right thing and just move on dear friend!

Givmeabrek · 20 March 2012, 01:24 AM

Report her to eBay. It was not an error as she told you in the email. She tried to circumvent the rules. And of course get your money back.

jerseyden · 20 March 2012, 02:38 AM

You are not going to get the watch for £100. Sh*t happens. Move on.

dieseldragon · 20 March 2012, 03:34 AM

you shouldn't have got up at 5.30am, that was your first mistake!

get a refund and move on, she was out of order but all you are going to do is waste your time.

steebee2 · 20 March 2012, 06:51 AM

Why are you wasting so much time on this? Did you honestly think you were getting an Authentic Daytona for £100? Get it back and move on...

tudorman8276 · 20 March 2012, 07:03 AM

...get this SCAM/FRAUD listing removed.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190655667184

tudorman8276 · 20 March 2012, 07:46 AM

...the re-list is gone.

hanybad · 20 March 2012, 02:10 PM

I think it's a scam and no watches just my .02 cents.
here is a Daytona 116528 from same seller with same scam if you wire the funds you'll never see a watch or your money again.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rolex-Dayt...item2c63f69cc9

kilyung · 20 March 2012, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hanybad

I think it's a scam and no watches just my .02 cents.
here is a Daytona 116528 from same seller with same scam if you wire the funds you'll never see a watch or your money again.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rolex-Dayt...item2c63f69cc9

Hey I think those are Tony's pictures!!!

Spunga · 20 March 2012, 07:43 PM

I committed to buy this second item to remove it from the market.

I've spoken to eBay who have cancelled both transactions and will be investigating the seller.

They suspect it's not a scam at this stage, just a circumvention of fees breach plus some other ignorant breaches of their terms.

She, the seller has emailed me, the funny thing is she replied to my question asking if she truly is an Auditor, and the reply was yes.

LOL.

MonBK · 20 March 2012, 07:47 PM

I have to ask, did you really think you'd get it for 100?

Spunga · 20 March 2012, 07:54 PM

I was interested to see where it led me more than anything.

I don't want a job being a policeman but sometimes I do think some people need to taken-to-task and be accountable for their stupidity and/or avoidance of their obligation.

No is the answer.

19 March 2012, 04:43 AM	#1
Spunga Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: England Posts: 650	What would you do..... I got up around 5:30am GMT this morning to watch the Grand Prix, and with a few minutes before the start of the race I thought I'd have a look thru some of my saved searches on eBay. It was a search for Rolex's in the UK. First item was a SS Daytona. The images looked okay, came with the full set of box and papers etc. Checked the description and all looked ok. Now, to be honest I'm not actually in the market for a Daytona, but I like to look anyway, I then noticed a major descrepency that sets all the alarm bells ringing.....the item was not an auction item but a buy it now......for only £100. First thought as usual, it's a fake, but the images looked good. The seller is of low rating, but because I'm an awkward sod and knowing I've some protection from paypal, I thought what the hell. If somebody has made a mistake, then I will see what happens. So I bought the item. Committed to pay immediately to complete the transaction, I paid my hard earned £100 via paypal instantly. The item is as follows... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1906546781...84.m1439.l2649 Around six hours later I get an email from the seller....... "Dear spunga, You do realize this watch is for £8,000 not £100? And i also said that i don't accept Paypal? I know it was as buy it now for £100 but i only did this because i am a new seller eBay won't let me sell anything for more than £3,500 and i just need to sell this watch so i had no choice, sorry about that but i'm not selling it for £100. Thanks, Debbie - sales.auditor.100" What would you do next??????

19 March 2012, 05:02 AM	#4
Grumpy Badger "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Mark Location: Bonny Scotland Watch: 14060M Sub (cosc) Posts: 5,280	To me she didn't make a mistake... She was deliberately trying to circumvent the rules. I'd despute it with eBay and take her to the small claims court if necessary. I wouldn't get screwed up about it but I'd try everything within reason to hold her to the legally binding contract she willingly entered into! __________________ Don't mind me. I'm full of scotch, bitterness and impure thoughts! "You have enemies? Good! That means you stood up for something, sometime in your life." Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill KG, OM, CH, TD, PC, DL, FRS.

19 March 2012, 05:17 AM	#6
DoxaDavid "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: David Location: Minneapolis, Mn Posts: 3,271	She stated in her ad what the sales price was and that she didn't accept PayPal. The buy it now would not be in itself a binding contract so no, she doesn't have to honor it but I probably would report her to EBay as this is a violation of their rules. She could have posted the watch for sale on a regular forum such as TRF which does to have such restrictions. Debbie, Debbie... __________________ DOXA-AFICIONADO "It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues. " Abraham Lincoln 1809-1865

19 March 2012, 05:31 AM	#7
GoldenBear "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Francisco Watch: Submariner Posts: 2,480	I don't know much about paypal, I guess you are able to get your 100 back...But I wonder if dozens of people sent 100 each, and she was able to keep it, she could make some easy money. __________________ ____________________________________________ Rolex Blue TT Submariner Rolex SS Submariner Breitling Emergency Mission They are just watches, wear 'em. ____________________________________________

19 March 2012, 05:43 AM	#9
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	Does not look like a mistake. She tried to bend the rules. Even so, I would let it go. It is not right. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

19 March 2012, 04:49 AM	#2
The Joker "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Gotham Posts: 9,641	Get my £100 back and forget it.

19 March 2012, 05:10 AM	#5
horseco "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Anthony Location: North Jersey Watch: Daytona 116528 Posts: 3,426	Let it go & move on... life is too short...

19 March 2012, 05:38 AM	#8
usbzoso Banned Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Stan Location: Dallas Watch: 16610/16600/16800 Posts: 1,231	you'd be wasting your time trying to force her to ship you the daytona, even if she did how will you feel about yourself? i wouldnt feel comfortable accepting such a deal ... just move on and do it the right way

19 March 2012, 05:59 AM	#10
Timber Loftis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Jon Location: Chicago Watch: IIc,DJII,P244,A1-Z Posts: 2,857	I would quit trying to be the sort of person who expects something for nothing, that's what I'd do. You can try to pull off your "gotcha" and see if you can enforce the contract. If you do, though, you become the reason why we all hate a litigious society.

19 March 2012, 06:33 AM	#12
lebowski321 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Tyler Location: Hill Country, TX Watch: Rolex Posts: 496	I'd just let it go. Not worth it IMO.

19 March 2012, 06:42 AM	#13
z32turbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sea Level Watch: Varies Posts: 6,877	I think if you do anything your only going to end up with time wasted and no watch as an end result. Your choice but I'd forget about it and just get my £100 back. __________________ Instagram @z32turbo

19 March 2012, 07:17 AM	#14
threemonkeys "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Craig Location: Seattle-ish, USA Watch: GMTIIc, AK, LVc Posts: 7,022	I would file an eBay complaint just to keep her a little more honest in the future. Edit: this seller is an idiot. I went ahead and sent a complaint to eBay.

19 March 2012, 08:46 AM	#15
MoBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 6,773	Take yer hundred quid back. Last edited by mike; 19 March 2012 at 08:16 PM.. Reason: foul language

19 March 2012, 10:41 PM	#16
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	I saw this last night and could see that it was an off-Ebay solicitation. You'll get your £100 back no problem. Ebay should just "off" the seller. __________________ ..33

19 March 2012, 11:28 PM	#17
Scary Hat "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 262	Personally, I would never try to enforce a contract where I knew or had reason to know that it was an obvious error on the part of the seller or buyer. Sales should be in good faith. Do the right thing and let it go Tom

20 March 2012, 12:28 AM	#18
hsfrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Herbert Frank Location: Middletown,De Watch: President Posts: 1,641	While I agree that you should just get your money back from paypal, I fail to see why some think it was an error on the sellerspart. Her email made it clear that she listed it for that sum in violation of ebays rules to entice a buyer at her price off ebay. Report it to ebay. __________________ Time and Tide wait for no man Rolex Cellini 4133 Tudor North Flag HERS: Rolex TTDJ

20 March 2012, 01:02 AM	#19
mbuckley "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: Norman, Oklahoma Watch: Exp II Posts: 616	Multiply your hourly rate by your bother and you will have your cost-----not even close to worth it----there is a Forrest Gump quote somewhere about this---do teh right thing and just move on dear friend!

20 March 2012, 01:24 AM	#20
Givmeabrek Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Rich Location: NY Watch: GMT2C, SS Daytona Posts: 138	Report her to eBay. It was not an error as she told you in the email. She tried to circumvent the rules. And of course get your money back.

20 March 2012, 02:38 AM	#21
jerseyden "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Den Location: Jersey CI Posts: 510	You are not going to get the watch for £100. Sh*t happens. Move on.

20 March 2012, 03:34 AM	#22
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	you shouldn't have got up at 5.30am, that was your first mistake! get a refund and move on, she was out of order but all you are going to do is waste your time. __________________ Rolex GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

20 March 2012, 06:51 AM	#23
steebee2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Steve Location: New York City Watch: 116233 Posts: 193	Why are you wasting so much time on this? Did you honestly think you were getting an Authentic Daytona for £100? Get it back and move on...

20 March 2012, 07:03 AM	#24
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...hmmmm...what would I do...for STARTERS I will... ...get this SCAM/FRAUD listing removed. http://www.ebay.com/itm/190655667184

20 March 2012, 07:46 AM	#25
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...okeedokeee...GONERZ... ...the re-list is gone.

20 March 2012, 02:10 PM	#26
hanybad "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Hany Location: Canada Watch: 116523,116710,5513 Posts: 529	Not done yet. I think it's a scam and no watches just my .02 cents. here is a Daytona 116528 from same seller with same scam if you wire the funds you'll never see a watch or your money again. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rolex-Dayt...item2c63f69cc9

20 March 2012, 07:43 PM	#28
Spunga Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: England Posts: 650	I committed to buy this second item to remove it from the market. I've spoken to eBay who have cancelled both transactions and will be investigating the seller. They suspect it's not a scam at this stage, just a circumvention of fees breach plus some other ignorant breaches of their terms. She, the seller has emailed me, the funny thing is she replied to my question asking if she truly is an Auditor, and the reply was yes. LOL.

20 March 2012, 07:47 PM	#29
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	I have to ask, did you really think you'd get it for 100?

20 March 2012, 07:54 PM	#30
Spunga Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: England Posts: 650	I was interested to see where it led me more than anything. I don't want a job being a policeman but sometimes I do think some people need to taken-to-task and be accountable for their stupidity and/or avoidance of their obligation. No is the answer.

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