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Seadweller · 13 September 2007, 06:27 PM

This maybe be a stupid question and I'm sure it has been asked before but here goes.
Rolex put the cyclops onto their watches to magnify the date, thus making it easier to read.

Why don't they just make the date bigger and do away with the ugly ( my opinion ) cyclops blob, dust gathering thingy.

JJ Irani · 13 September 2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Seadweller

This maybe be a stupid question and I'm sure it has been asked before but here goes.
Rolex put the cyclops onto their watches to magnify the date, thus making it easier to read.

Why don't they just make the date bigger and do away with the ugly ( my opinion ) cyclops blob, dust gathering thingy.

Okay, my friend.....picture this!!

A Mercedes WITHOUT the 3-pointed star.

A BMW without its famous round LOGO.

A Rolls Royce WITHOUT the famous flying lady mascot on the hood.

A FERRARI without the prancing horse.

Get the picture?

Seadweller · 13 September 2007, 06:37 PM

A sales girl without the cleveage.

JJ Irani · 13 September 2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Seadweller

A sales girl without the cleveage.

Now how the hell did I forget that??

BiG JeEzY · 13 September 2007, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Seadweller

A sales girl without the cleveage.

Good one! Now you know why Rolexes have the cyclops in them.

SPACE-DWELLER · 13 September 2007, 06:43 PM

I think Rolex doesn't do that due to aesthetics. A bigger date aparture would look clumsy.

BTW: The SD has no cyclops (even though it has a date) since the sapphire crystal is simply TOO thick (4 mm!) and due to the extry distance to the date aparture, the cyclops would have to be MUCH bigger to focus correctly.

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Originally Posted by Seadweller

Rolex put the cyclops onto their watches to magnify the date, thus making it easier to read.

Sorry, I do NOT agree that the cyclops "makes the date easier to read". Please compare this pic of an SD and an SS Sub Date. Now please tell me: WHAT IS THE DATE ON THE SS SUB DATE?? (btw: It is NOT the 17th., so guesswork won't help!

):

BiG JeEzY · 13 September 2007, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacedweller

I think Rolex doesn't do that due to aesthetics. A bigger date aparture would look clumsy.

BTW: The SD has no cyclops (even though it has a date) since the sapphire crystal is simply TOO thick (4 mm!) and due to the extry distance to the date aparture, the cyclops would have to be MUCH bigger to focus correctly.

Yeah a big date does make the watch look clumsy and it also makes the dial look somewhat more "disorganized" to me. The cyclops also looks more sophisticated to me at least, some may disagree but I'm glad Rolex went with the cyclops choice over a bigger date font.

Andad · 13 September 2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacedweller

I think Rolex doesn't do that due to aesthetics. A bigger date aparture would look clumsy.

BTW: The SD has no cyclops (even though it has a date) since the sapphire crystal is simply TOO thick (4 mm!) and due to the extry distance to the date aparture, the cyclops would have to be MUCH bigger to focus correctly.

Sorry, I do NOT agree that the cyclops "makes the date easier to read". Please compare this pic of an SD and an SS Sub Date. Now please tell me: WHAT IS THE DATE ON THE SS SUB DATE?? (btw: It is NOT the 17th., so guesswork won't help!

):

Bo
You have a lot of specs and info that you present but I can't see how the crystal thickess is 4mm on my SD. This does not agree with my calcs. Can you advise me of the source for this measurement?

SPACE-DWELLER · 13 September 2007, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by directioneng

Bo
You have a lot of specs and info that you present but I can't see how the crystal thickess is 4mm on my SD. This does not agree with my calcs. Can you advise me of the source for this measurement?

Here

And here

Any further questions?

leopardprey · 13 September 2007, 08:10 PM

I personally like the Cyclops. Easy veiwing of date, especially on the new AR coated cyclops of the GMT II. I missed having the cyclops and easier to read larger date when I had SeaDweller.

Now if you want to see a really good example of a larger date on a watch, without a Cyclops, check out Glashuette Originals Sport Evolution or the Panoramadate Models. Very nicely date feature on their watches! Some of the best and easily viewed I have seen. (The only thing that turns me off of the GO SE, and why I did not buy one -yet- is the hour markers lumed at only 3, 6 9, and 12).

ohlins · 13 September 2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Seadweller

Why don't they just make the date bigger and do away with the ugly ( my opinion ) cyclops blob, dust gathering thingy.

with a standard-size calender disc, there is no way the date can be 2.5 times of what it is without using a cyclop lens....

the other way is to use a big-date mechanism....

mike · 13 September 2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ohlins

with a standard-size calender disc, there is no way the date can be 2.5 times of what it is without using a cyclop lens....

the other way is to use a big-date mechanism....

Correct.

mike · 13 September 2007, 08:49 PM

This is a crystal!!

SPACE-DWELLER · 13 September 2007, 09:12 PM

I agree, Mike!

I just LOVE the 1680!

But one of the things I like about the SD is the higher standing crystal. Of course it is not NEAR as pronounced as the crystal of the 1680, but the SD crystal still stands a good deal higher than on the other Rolex models. Looks a bit "old fashioned" IMHO, and that is what I like

EvEr34 · 13 September 2007, 09:23 PM

So what would you guys say if I told I saw a TT blue sub with no cyclops the other day.

SPACE-DWELLER · 13 September 2007, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by EvEr34

So what would you guys say if I told I saw a TT blue sub with no cyclops the other day.

I would just think that the guy you saw had the cyclops removed from the crystal (it is only glued on).

Transient · 13 September 2007, 10:31 PM

I love the cyclops. It's so Rolex...

Andad · 13 September 2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacedweller

Here

And here

Any further questions?

:

How about this one that says 3mm???

http://www.mens-watches-guide.com/oy...ller-4000.html

Any further questions?

PS. I expect that by thickness you are referring to the measurement through the top of the crystal? If you are sure that it is 4mm do you want a small bet on that?

Dan Pierce · 13 September 2007, 11:04 PM

I'm a huge fan of the blob, I mean cyclops too.

dP

SPACE-DWELLER · 13 September 2007, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by directioneng

If you are sure that it is 4mm do you want a small bet on that?

ron17402 · 13 September 2007, 11:21 PM

Perhaps the date is not bigger because of space restrictions within the movement.

colemanitis · 13 September 2007, 11:24 PM

I like the cyclops as well. I had a Sea-Dweller for 5 months and ended up selling it. It was a great watch, but I began missing the cyclops after a few months. I could also tell the difference in dial size between the two. Everytime I saw a Sub I thought to myself... "That watch looks bigger than mine??". I'm now a VERY HAPPY Sub owner and absolutely love it.

EvEr34 · 13 September 2007, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacedweller

I would just think that the guy you saw had the cyclops removed from the crystal (it is only glued on).

I'd say that your are probably right. Had no idea it could be easily removed.

jimbo1mcm · 13 September 2007, 11:58 PM

Did he say that?

EvEr34 · 14 September 2007, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo1mcm

Did he say that?

what's the purpose of your post??

leopardprey · 14 September 2007, 12:31 AM

But one of the things I like about the SD is the higher standing crystal. Of course it is not NEAR as pronounced as the crystal of the 1680, but the SD crystal still stands a good deal higher than on the other Rolex models. Looks a bit "old fashioned" IMHO, and that is what I like

Bo, you will notice that the Crystal on the Explorer II models stands up further from the bezel as well, like the SD.

Paulie · 14 September 2007, 07:17 AM

Glashuette Original does no cyclops very well.

http://www.glashuette-original.com/k...t/edelstahl01/

mike · 14 September 2007, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by leopardprey

But one of the things I like about the SD is the higher standing crystal. Of course it is not NEAR as pronounced as the crystal of the 1680, but the SD crystal still stands a good deal higher than on the other Rolex models. Looks a bit "old fashioned" IMHO, and that is what I like

Bo, you will notice that the Crystal on the Explorer II models stands up further from the bezel as well, like the SD.

Here's a bit of a shot showing that Chad,

And one of the Sub and SD,

Blue Bull · 14 September 2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by leopardprey

I personally like the Cyclops. Easy veiwing of date, especially on the new AR coated cyclops of the GMT II. I missed having the cyclops and easier to read larger date when I had SeaDweller.

Now if you want to see a really good example of a larger date on a watch, without a Cyclops, check out Glashuette Originals Sport Evolution or the Panoramadate Models. Very nicely date feature on their watches! Some of the best and easily viewed I have seen. (The only thing that turns me off of the GO SE, and why I did not buy one -yet- is the hour markers lumed at only 3, 6 9, and 12).

Forget about the lume ... The Glashutte Sports Evolution date is fantastic !!

Blue Bull · 14 September 2007, 01:05 PM

Who needs a cyclops ??

13 September 2007, 06:27 PM	#1
Seadweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 750	Date window and cyclops. This maybe be a stupid question and I'm sure it has been asked before but here goes. Rolex put the cyclops onto their watches to magnify the date, thus making it easier to read. Why don't they just make the date bigger and do away with the ugly ( my opinion ) cyclops blob, dust gathering thingy. __________________ The Exclusive 4000ft Club.

13 September 2007, 06:37 PM	#3
Seadweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 750	A sales girl without the cleveage. __________________ The Exclusive 4000ft Club.

13 September 2007, 09:12 PM	#14
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	I agree, Mike! I just LOVE the 1680! But one of the things I like about the SD is the higher standing crystal. Of course it is not NEAR as pronounced as the crystal of the 1680, but the SD crystal still stands a good deal higher than on the other Rolex models. Looks a bit "old fashioned" IMHO, and that is what I like __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

13 September 2007, 11:04 PM	#19
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,217	I'm a huge fan of the blob, I mean cyclops too. dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

13 September 2007, 11:24 PM	#22
colemanitis "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jeff Location: Florida Watch: PAM 1090 Posts: 3,723	I like the cyclops as well. I had a Sea-Dweller for 5 months and ended up selling it. It was a great watch, but I began missing the cyclops after a few months. I could also tell the difference in dial size between the two. Everytime I saw a Sub I thought to myself... "That watch looks bigger than mine??". I'm now a VERY HAPPY Sub owner and absolutely love it. __________________ Member #471

13 September 2007, 08:10 PM	#10
leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	I personally like the Cyclops. Easy veiwing of date, especially on the new AR coated cyclops of the GMT II. I missed having the cyclops and easier to read larger date when I had SeaDweller. Now if you want to see a really good example of a larger date on a watch, without a Cyclops, check out Glashuette Originals Sport Evolution or the Panoramadate Models. Very nicely date feature on their watches! Some of the best and easily viewed I have seen. (The only thing that turns me off of the GO SE, and why I did not buy one -yet- is the hour markers lumed at only 3, 6 9, and 12).

13 September 2007, 08:49 PM	#13
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	This is a crystal!!

13 September 2007, 09:23 PM	#15
EvEr34 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,909	So what would you guys say if I told I saw a TT blue sub with no cyclops the other day.

13 September 2007, 10:31 PM	#17
Transient "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Sydney, Australia Watch: Rolex & Omega Posts: 697	I love the cyclops. It's so Rolex...

13 September 2007, 11:21 PM	#21
ron17402 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Ron Location: Charlotte, NC USA Watch: 116710 Posts: 435	Perhaps the date is not bigger because of space restrictions within the movement.

13 September 2007, 11:58 PM	#24
jimbo1mcm Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: connecticut, usa Watch: New GMT2C Posts: 320	Easily removed? Did he say that?

14 September 2007, 12:31 AM	#26
leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	But one of the things I like about the SD is the higher standing crystal. Of course it is not NEAR as pronounced as the crystal of the 1680, but the SD crystal still stands a good deal higher than on the other Rolex models. Looks a bit "old fashioned" IMHO, and that is what I like Bo, you will notice that the Crystal on the Explorer II models stands up further from the bezel as well, like the SD.

14 September 2007, 07:17 AM	#27
Paulie "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicagoland Watch: GMTII and OP! Posts: 1,272	Glashuette Original does no cyclops very well. http://www.glashuette-original.com/k...t/edelstahl01/ __________________

14 September 2007, 01:05 PM	#30
Blue Bull Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,887	Who needs a cyclops ?? Attached Images

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