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WhatTheDeuce · 29 March 2012, 10:34 AM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-GMT-MA...5#ht_500wt_922

77T · 29 March 2012, 12:24 PM

This looks bad - on dial "OYSTER PERPETUAL DATE" font is very different.
Don't recall seeing that before.

Rsvrider · 29 March 2012, 12:39 PM

Yes.
Good catch!

mrbill2mrbill2 · 29 March 2012, 08:50 PM

Zero feedback as a seller.

robertneville · 29 March 2012, 09:59 PM

does not look good at all!

cedargrove · 30 March 2012, 12:21 AM

date magnification is horrible

WhatTheDeuce · 30 March 2012, 11:09 AM

Reported...

theelblue · 30 March 2012, 12:01 PM

Should dial say GMT Master II?

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springer · 30 March 2012, 12:30 PM

Here is what I observed. The watch appears to have an acrylic crystal which would make it a GMT 16750. The bezel insert is aftermarket along with the crystal. The winding crown is wrong and way too large. The insert is faded and the band is stretched. The Rolex coronet on the band clasp appears to be of the "fake" variety that I am familiar with. From the photos though, the dial appears genuine but I wouldn't be 100% based on the quality of the photos.

I'd pass on it and lean toward it being a counterfeit GMT from the mid to late 1980's when these watches were plentiful on Canal St. in NYC.

blaine mattison · 30 March 2012, 01:03 PM

???? what are we calling fake?? the crystal, sure it's aftermarket.

the dial looks fine. the 502b ends are the correct ones for a gmt
on a jubilee. seller has mis labled it. might not be there's, who
knowns?? also, the seller lack of internet sales experience shows.
(pictures and description)

i would agree with Mr Springer about passing on it. as it gones,
you will almost never be wrong, when you buy the seller

springer · 30 March 2012, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaine mattison

???? what are we calling fake?? the crystal, sure it's aftermarket.

the dial looks fine. the 502b ends are the correct ones for a gmt
on a jubilee. seller has mis labled it. might not be there's, who
knowns?? also, the seller lack of internet sales experience shows.
(pictures and description)

I would agree with Mr Springer about passing on it. as it gones,
you will almost never be wrong, when you buy the seller

Blaine, I was about to lean more toward genuine, but with the typical fake winding crown, and the other aftermarket or questionable aspects I mentioned earlier, I'm leaning more counterfeit than genuine. The clasp coronet is another deal breaker for me - especially under magnification. I do agree with you on the dial though, it looks more genuine than counterfeit based on the photos, but I wouldn't make a 100% call on these photos. Also, I did see the end links, which I agree appear genuine, but I don't like the clasp.

29 March 2012, 10:34 AM	#1
WhatTheDeuce "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Kyung Location: Anywhere? Watch: cha want... Posts: 4,488	Fake GMT? http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-GMT-MA...5#ht_500wt_922 __________________ Instagram: @whatthedeuce_

29 March 2012, 12:24 PM	#2
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,010	This looks bad - on dial "OYSTER PERPETUAL DATE" font is very different. Don't recall seeing that before. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

29 March 2012, 12:39 PM	#3
Rsvrider "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dallas TX Watch: It cming frm above Posts: 807	Yes. Good catch! __________________ "The Only Easy Day Was Yesterday"

29 March 2012, 08:50 PM	#4
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Zero feedback as a seller. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

29 March 2012, 09:59 PM	#5
robertneville "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: PA Watch: me burn Posts: 1,435	does not look good at all! __________________ Motocross is life!

30 March 2012, 12:21 AM	#6
cedargrove "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Rich Location: Canada Watch: Milgauss, GMT IIc Posts: 3,013	date magnification is horrible

30 March 2012, 11:09 AM	#7
WhatTheDeuce "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Kyung Location: Anywhere? Watch: cha want... Posts: 4,488	Reported... __________________ Instagram: @whatthedeuce_

30 March 2012, 12:01 PM	#8
theelblue "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NC Posts: 12	Should dial say GMT Master II? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 March 2012, 12:30 PM	#9
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,318	Here is what I observed. The watch appears to have an acrylic crystal which would make it a GMT 16750. The bezel insert is aftermarket along with the crystal. The winding crown is wrong and way too large. The insert is faded and the band is stretched. The Rolex coronet on the band clasp appears to be of the "fake" variety that I am familiar with. From the photos though, the dial appears genuine but I wouldn't be 100% based on the quality of the photos. I'd pass on it and lean toward it being a counterfeit GMT from the mid to late 1980's when these watches were plentiful on Canal St. in NYC. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

30 March 2012, 01:03 PM	#10
blaine mattison "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: blaine Location: memphis Watch: my next find Posts: 1,060	???? what are we calling fake?? the crystal, sure it's aftermarket. the dial looks fine. the 502b ends are the correct ones for a gmt on a jubilee. seller has mis labled it. might not be there's, who knowns?? also, the seller lack of internet sales experience shows. (pictures and description) i would agree with Mr Springer about passing on it. as it gones, you will almost never be wrong, when you buy the seller

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