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Deepsea Florida · 3 April 2012, 12:50 PM

Just picked up a new Sub-C LN, already had a LV hulk, and a smurf, +DSSD.

There are a couple of differences I observed.

1) My LN is a G serial, while my LV is scrambled or at least starts with a number and not a letter

2) Font for the ft for the my HULK is the new one with a short f in the ft, while the LN-C is the older long f in the ft.

3) under a loupe the "2" on the calendar is thinner on the LN-C, while the newer (but older to me) HULK "2" is bolder or at least thicker, while the font for both.....as I am only comparing number "2" as that is today's date.

4) The bracelet on the HULK looks a little more grey and darker, while on the LN-C it looks more silver.

5) This is going to sound nuts.....the fancy "ROLEX" design on the inside of clasp feels a little rougher with my finger on the new LN-C while my HULK feels slightly smoother when I rub my finger in this area....on second rub maybe the difference is because the new one is newer.

Anyone else see what I am seeing

PS....my longer f in the ft on my DSSD..I think that's a first generation DSSD dial.....the dial looks not quite as glossy---more of a Matte finish than a new DSSD short "f"

PSS....am I certifiably nuts ???

toph · 3 April 2012, 12:58 PM

P.S one is green and one is black
PPS yes you are

handsfull · 3 April 2012, 01:07 PM

#3: Never noticed this....I'm gonna have to grab the loupe...

#4: I thought this also....I figured it was just my eyes. Bizarre.

FremStar · 3 April 2012, 01:15 PM

Very interesting assessment! it's always cool to read how meticulous some owners are with their timepieces!

kilyung · 3 April 2012, 01:18 PM

Lesson learned: say no to loupes!

Deepsea Florida · 3 April 2012, 01:19 PM

Looking at some older posts...I think the kermit and the hulk both have a bolder date.

HULK bracelet is not as silver and more grey than LN.....this is for sure, wonder why no one ever commented.

I would go right now and compare the Hulk grey bracelet to my DSSD as I believe the DSSD is not as silver as the LN...

However I would possibly get in trouble if I looked now as my wife doesn't know that I picked up the LN today, and she probably thinks it's the DSSD.

Wonder if she will notice before we get the credit card bill ???? (then she will notice !!)

Deepsea Florida · 3 April 2012, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FremStar

Very interesting assessment! it's always cool to read how meticulous some owners are with their timepieces!

You fellow nuts have started this....now I know more than the AD's !

PS...also picked up like a $80 Submariner book at Barnes and Noble...didn't read all of it, but I figured I might as well, as I read free magazines there every day.

cajerseyboy · 3 April 2012, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deepsea Florida

Looking at some older posts...I think the kermit and the hulk both have a bolder date.

HULK bracelet is not as silver and more grey than LN.....this is for sure, wonder why no one ever commented.

I would go right now and compare the Hulk grey bracelet to my DSSD as I believe the DSSD is not as silver as the LN...

However I would possibly get in trouble if I looked now as my wife doesn't know that I picked up the LN today, and she probably thinks it's the DSSD.

Wonder if she will notice before we get the credit card bill ???? (then she will notice !!)

Wow. Wish I had the balls and $ to pull that one off.

Deepsea Florida · 3 April 2012, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by btcus

Wow. Wish I had the balls and $ to pull that one off.

Don't know if it's balls or stupidity on my part.

I love the 116610LV.....but the Green doesn't go with everything. My DSSD is beautiful but big, thought the LN Sub-C would be a great addition. It is, but some of the features on the LV-C are nice (am I crazy now ? Comparing calendar fonts)....bracelet may fit the slightest bit different---might be the differences between the LN-C and LV-C or the fact that one is like 3 or 4 months newer than the other and the LN still squeaks.

Gotta go for a moment...the guys trying to put me in a white jacket just pulled up to my house....

Deepsea Florida · 3 April 2012, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by handsfull

#3: Never noticed this....I'm gonna have to grab the loupe...

#4: I thought this also....I figured it was just my eyes. Bizarre.

It seems the grayish bracelet goes more with the green, and makes the whole watch look a bit different...still nice.

The more silver for the LN, and more grey for the DSSD

gwalker · 3 April 2012, 02:06 PM

I don't think any of those differences are intentional by Rolex. They often change fonts on dials and date wheels with different production runs. Im not sure about the bracelet colors. I didnt think when the bracelets were made they are actually designated for a LN or LV. Thought they just came out of a bin. I think Rolex buys the steel so color variation could just be from different runs of the steel. I have held both side by side several times and never noticed any difference in bracelet color.

I can't imagine taking the time to look at my watches that closely. Glad I'm not OCD.

MY-WATCH · 3 April 2012, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toph

P.S one is green and one is black
PPS yes you are

Deepsea Florida · 3 April 2012, 02:21 PM

There is a difference in the bracelet color between the 116610LN and 116610LV without a doubt.

What maybe more subtle is the color of a DSSD bracelet gwalker, do you notice that your DSSD bracelet is less silvery than your 116610LN.

I don't think Rolex pulls the bracelets just, "out of a bin". Why couldn't the metal mix for each bracelet be very slightly different by adding just a touch more or less of one part of the alloy mix and slightly change the color.

The DSSD bracelet is different that the 116610LN is different than the 116619LB is different than the Yellow Gold bracelet one, I think the 116618 ?

Why couldn't the 116610LV have a different bracelet than the 116610LN ?

PS... at least on my 2 watches the LV calendar font is bolder or thicker than the LN, and while I am too lazy at the moment to grab my smurf...I think it to might also have a bolder font than my new LN.

FremStar · 3 April 2012, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deepsea Florida

You fellow nuts have started this....now I know more than the AD's !

PS...also picked up like a $80 Submariner book at Barnes and Noble...didn't read all of it, but I figured I might as well, as I read free magazines there every day.

What's the name of the book? I'm always interested in picking up some good reads

P.S. you should always know about the same or more than your AD when looking to spend your hard earned cash! As I tell my students knowledge is POWER!

Deepsea Florida · 3 April 2012, 02:34 PM

The book is Vintage Rolex sport models by skeet and urul.

It only goes up to the 16800...mid eighties. Copyright 2008, but not sure when it was first printed. Checked online with Barnes and Noble and one 15 miles away had it. I rushed out to get it cost me $80 before tax. If you search I think you could get a discount. I had to have it right away. Same crazy reason I picked up a LN without my wife knowing. I was futzing with the bracelet a lot tonight...she didn't notice yet. I want her to notice without me telling her, but because I know she won't be pleased I won't outright tell her yet. But like I said when she sees the credit card bill.........

FremStar · 3 April 2012, 02:47 PM

Funny story and thanks for the name of the book sir! Always remember A Happy Wife = A Happy life. Everything else is secondary including your happiness

Glidelock · 3 April 2012, 04:18 PM

I too have a long "F" G.

4) The bracelet on the HULK looks a little more grey and darker, while on the LN-C it looks more silver.

Actually, I've noticed this on every single new Rolex I've ever brought home. As time goes on, the silver will effectively oxidize causing it to grey out compared to when it's new. It usually takes at least year of active wearing and getting wet etc. before it get it gets to it's greyest point. I actually really like it at that stage, and my G is getting close now. If you take your Hulk in and compare it to a brand new Hulk out of the case, your going to see this exactly.

boogiebot · 3 April 2012, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deepsea Florida

Looking at some older posts...I think the kermit and the hulk both have a bolder date.

HULK bracelet is not as silver and more grey than LN.....this is for sure, wonder why no one ever commented.

I would go right now and compare the Hulk grey bracelet to my DSSD as I believe the DSSD is not as silver as the LN...

However I would possibly get in trouble if I looked now as my wife doesn't know that I picked up the LN today, and she probably thinks it's the DSSD.

Wonder if she will notice before we get the credit card bill ???? (then she will notice !!)

thats funny. youre a brave man sir.

padi56 · 3 April 2012, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwalker

I don't think any of those differences are intentional by Rolex. They often change fonts on dials and date wheels with different production runs. Im not sure about the bracelet colors. I didnt think when the bracelets were made they are actually designated for a LN or LV. Thought they just came out of a bin. I think Rolex buys the steel so color variation could just be from different runs of the steel. I have held both side by side several times and never noticed any difference in bracelet color.

I can't imagine taking the time to look at my watches that closely. Glad I'm not OCD.

X2. Have to agree over the past 40 plus years on millions upon millions of Rolex watches there have been tiny font dial colour changes etc.But today with the Lupe mania we have now, some notice it more than before the Internet and Lupe mania of todays watch wearers.

cajerseyboy · 3 April 2012, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deepsea Florida

Don't know if it's balls or stupidity on my part.

I love the 116610LV.....but the Green doesn't go with everything. My DSSD is beautiful but big, thought the LN Sub-C would be a great addition. It is, but some of the features on the LV-C are nice (am I crazy now ? Comparing calendar fonts)....bracelet may fit the slightest bit different---might be the differences between the LN-C and LV-C or the fact that one is like 3 or 4 months newer than the other and the LN still squeaks.

Gotta go for a moment...the guys trying to put me in a white jacket just pulled up to my house....

The answer is, yes, you are crazy but we are all in some way shape or form for being so into these things. After all, in their most basic form they tell the time. So the quandary is, why do I need them so badly. That's te insane part and the fun of it. So enjoy an dont beat yourself up.

Jack Sparrow · 3 April 2012, 05:58 PM

Totally agree about the bracelet colors. My LV-C is definitely darker than my LN-C, and I think my DSSD is somewhere in the middle.

Deepsea Florida · 3 April 2012, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Totally agree about the bracelet colors. My LV-C is definitely darker than my LN-C, and I think my DSSD is somewhere in the middle.

Nice to see that you have a lot of variations of the same watch also Jack Sparrow.

Doesn't make me feel so silly dropping 7950 for my LN (got a 6% discount)....shoulda bought my DSSD from that AD that gave me a discount....my mistake.

Only problem like I said before is that I told my wife, "Don't worry sweetheart, I am through buying watches".
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Seriously I am 45 years old, and a fellow I know just passed away at the age of 73 2 days ago. I guess if he wanted a black sub-c he couldn't get it now, and any money that he had that is worthless to him now, other than what he left to his closest loved ones.

Carpe Diem

Reu · 3 April 2012, 10:26 PM

Sorry... Whats 'Lupe'?

Deepsea Florida · 3 April 2012, 11:02 PM

Lupe---

Girl's name............sounds kinda sexy

Deepsea Florida · 3 April 2012, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reu

Sorry... Whats 'Lupe'?

Girl's name....sounds kinda sexy

Sorry for Duplicate post

kkwn98 · 3 April 2012, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reu

Sorry... Whats 'Lupe'?

"Loupe".

penfold · 3 April 2012, 11:12 PM

Thought I was mad wanting a subc-LN to go with my subc-LV, SD and DSSD. Nice to know other people share the same affliction

FremStar · 3 April 2012, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reu

Sorry... Whats 'Lupe'?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deepsea Florida

Lupe---

Girl's name............sounds kinda sexy

Lupe is the name of an American rapper - Lupe Fiasco

SaddleSC · 3 April 2012, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FremStar

Lupe is the name of an American rapper - Lupe Fiasco

Sounds like a great name for one of your new watches, Sam!

Cru Jones · 3 April 2012, 11:18 PM

pretty maniacal details, here. love it.

but, that's interesting on the bracelets....would be interested to see a side-by-side of the shiny and grey bracelets.

3 April 2012, 12:50 PM	#1
Deepsea Florida "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 504	I noticed differences Ceramic LV and LN Just picked up a new Sub-C LN, already had a LV hulk, and a smurf, +DSSD. There are a couple of differences I observed. 1) My LN is a G serial, while my LV is scrambled or at least starts with a number and not a letter 2) Font for the ft for the my HULK is the new one with a short f in the ft, while the LN-C is the older long f in the ft. 3) under a loupe the "2" on the calendar is thinner on the LN-C, while the newer (but older to me) HULK "2" is bolder or at least thicker, while the font for both.....as I am only comparing number "2" as that is today's date. 4) The bracelet on the HULK looks a little more grey and darker, while on the LN-C it looks more silver. 5) This is going to sound nuts.....the fancy "ROLEX" design on the inside of clasp feels a little rougher with my finger on the new LN-C while my HULK feels slightly smoother when I rub my finger in this area....on second rub maybe the difference is because the new one is newer. Anyone else see what I am seeing PS....my longer f in the ft on my DSSD..I think that's a first generation DSSD dial.....the dial looks not quite as glossy---more of a Matte finish than a new DSSD short "f" PSS....am I certifiably nuts ???

3 April 2012, 12:58 PM	#2
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	P.S one is green and one is black PPS yes you are __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

3 April 2012, 02:47 PM	#16
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	Funny story and thanks for the name of the book sir! Always remember A Happy Wife = A Happy life. Everything else is secondary including your happiness __________________ "Wealth is of the heart and mind, not of the pocket!" "A Watch Is An Emotional Object, And So, It Is The Responsibility Of The Brand To Create Emotion Through It's Products" - Georges Kern "In the 1950s and 60s, they made the Ref 8171, which is a cult collectible—now that’s the ultimate Rolex you could own with a calendar and a moon phase.” - John Reardon "Heh, heh, heh..." - Michael Kilyung

3 April 2012, 01:07 PM	#3
handsfull "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: J Location: The great Midwest Watch: youlookinat? Posts: 2,369	#3: Never noticed this....I'm gonna have to grab the loupe... #4: I thought this also....I figured it was just my eyes. Bizarre.

3 April 2012, 01:15 PM	#4
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	Very interesting assessment! it's always cool to read how meticulous some owners are with their timepieces! __________________ "Wealth is of the heart and mind, not of the pocket!" "A Watch Is An Emotional Object, And So, It Is The Responsibility Of The Brand To Create Emotion Through It's Products" - Georges Kern "In the 1950s and 60s, they made the Ref 8171, which is a cult collectible—now that’s the ultimate Rolex you could own with a calendar and a moon phase.” - John Reardon "Heh, heh, heh..." - Michael Kilyung

3 April 2012, 01:18 PM	#5
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Lesson learned: say no to loupes!

3 April 2012, 01:19 PM	#6
Deepsea Florida "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 504	Looking at some older posts...I think the kermit and the hulk both have a bolder date. HULK bracelet is not as silver and more grey than LN.....this is for sure, wonder why no one ever commented. I would go right now and compare the Hulk grey bracelet to my DSSD as I believe the DSSD is not as silver as the LN... However I would possibly get in trouble if I looked now as my wife doesn't know that I picked up the LN today, and she probably thinks it's the DSSD. Wonder if she will notice before we get the credit card bill ???? (then she will notice !!)

3 April 2012, 02:06 PM	#11
gwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Gunter Location: AL/NJ Watch: DSSD; 116610LN Posts: 5,509	I don't think any of those differences are intentional by Rolex. They often change fonts on dials and date wheels with different production runs. Im not sure about the bracelet colors. I didnt think when the bracelets were made they are actually designated for a LN or LV. Thought they just came out of a bin. I think Rolex buys the steel so color variation could just be from different runs of the steel. I have held both side by side several times and never noticed any difference in bracelet color. I can't imagine taking the time to look at my watches that closely. Glad I'm not OCD.

3 April 2012, 02:21 PM	#13
Deepsea Florida "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 504	There is a difference in the bracelet color between the 116610LN and 116610LV without a doubt. What maybe more subtle is the color of a DSSD bracelet gwalker, do you notice that your DSSD bracelet is less silvery than your 116610LN. I don't think Rolex pulls the bracelets just, "out of a bin". Why couldn't the metal mix for each bracelet be very slightly different by adding just a touch more or less of one part of the alloy mix and slightly change the color. The DSSD bracelet is different that the 116610LN is different than the 116619LB is different than the Yellow Gold bracelet one, I think the 116618 ? Why couldn't the 116610LV have a different bracelet than the 116610LN ? PS... at least on my 2 watches the LV calendar font is bolder or thicker than the LN, and while I am too lazy at the moment to grab my smurf...I think it to might also have a bolder font than my new LN.

3 April 2012, 02:34 PM	#15
Deepsea Florida "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 504	The book is Vintage Rolex sport models by skeet and urul. It only goes up to the 16800...mid eighties. Copyright 2008, but not sure when it was first printed. Checked online with Barnes and Noble and one 15 miles away had it. I rushed out to get it cost me $80 before tax. If you search I think you could get a discount. I had to have it right away. Same crazy reason I picked up a LN without my wife knowing. I was futzing with the bracelet a lot tonight...she didn't notice yet. I want her to notice without me telling her, but because I know she won't be pleased I won't outright tell her yet. But like I said when she sees the credit card bill.........

3 April 2012, 04:18 PM	#17
Glidelock "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Will Zdorf Location: So. Cal. Watch: SDC4000, Sub LVC Posts: 1,947	I too have a long "F" G. 4) The bracelet on the HULK looks a little more grey and darker, while on the LN-C it looks more silver. Actually, I've noticed this on every single new Rolex I've ever brought home. As time goes on, the silver will effectively oxidize causing it to grey out compared to when it's new. It usually takes at least year of active wearing and getting wet etc. before it get it gets to it's greyest point. I actually really like it at that stage, and my G is getting close now. If you take your Hulk in and compare it to a brand new Hulk out of the case, your going to see this exactly.

3 April 2012, 05:58 PM	#21
Jack Sparrow Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: The Black Pearl Watch: 116610LV Posts: 108	Totally agree about the bracelet colors. My LV-C is definitely darker than my LN-C, and I think my DSSD is somewhere in the middle.

3 April 2012, 10:26 PM	#23
Reu Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,152	Sorry... Whats 'Lupe'?

3 April 2012, 11:02 PM	#24
Deepsea Florida "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 504	Lupe--- Girl's name............sounds kinda sexy

3 April 2012, 11:12 PM	#27
penfold "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 107	Thought I was mad wanting a subc-LN to go with my subc-LV, SD and DSSD. Nice to know other people share the same affliction

3 April 2012, 11:18 PM	#30
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,300	pretty maniacal details, here. love it. but, that's interesting on the bracelets....would be interested to see a side-by-side of the shiny and grey bracelets.

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