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Old 21 October 2007, 12:04 PM   #1
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Need help from Rolex Daytona experts!!

I a found the daytona and seller claims its authentic and he is going to service it on monday and sent me some pictures of the watch. But I'm not so sure if its authentic from the pictures because I am not an expert.
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Can you guys tell from its pictures??? if its authentic or not and possibly which series???

Thanks to all of you guys in advance and have a nice weekend
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Old 21 October 2007, 12:06 PM   #2
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No dial I have ever seen, but I am definitely no expert. I am sure others will chime in soon. Something about it does not look right.

Isn't the bracelet suppossed to have polished center links?
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Old 21 October 2007, 12:13 PM   #3
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I'm no expert either. I only know my new Daytona. But is this a zenith movement? Is that why the 3 and 9 dials are centered on the face? But it's got the fat hands which i thought was only on the new in-house movement...and since the 3 and 9 dials are centered, is that an indication it's fake?

Again - just an amateur reading. I'll wait for Bo to chime in - he's the true expert.
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Old 21 October 2007, 12:17 PM   #4
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Thanks for the quick reply, I also don't know if zenith movement had polished center bracelet or not and I'm not even sure that is polished center bracelet.

And I don't think that is a fat hands. I think those are skinny hands which is correct for zenith daytona. right??
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Old 21 October 2007, 12:33 PM   #5
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I think you're right. The 16520 had the Zenith movement, which i think had the centered dials @ 3 and 9.
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Old 21 October 2007, 12:38 PM   #6
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Although...I didnt know the 16520 had tritium markers.
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Old 21 October 2007, 12:41 PM   #7
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Just got an email from the seller and this is T series. And the Style No. is R16520A50B7839
Does that help???
He is taking the watch to his personal watchmaker in reno and not to RSC but claims he had Rolex training. Should I worry about that too???
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Old 21 October 2007, 12:43 PM   #8
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Just got an email from the seller and this is T series.
Does that help??? He is taking the watch to his personal watchmaker in reno and not to RSC but claims he had Rolex training. Should I worry about that too???
From what i've read here, you should only trust RSC. Sorry I can't be more help. Waiting for the experts to post...
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Old 21 October 2007, 03:14 PM   #9
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Here is another T ....

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Old 21 October 2007, 03:38 PM   #10
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im not too sure about this one
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Old 21 October 2007, 03:45 PM   #11
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such a gamble...so much better just buying from an AD:)
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Old 21 October 2007, 10:17 PM   #12
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I think it looks real.

The early "Zenith" Daytonas DID have a matte bracelet.

But since there is doubt about its authenticity, maybe it should be in the "Watch Out" section?

I could provide more extensive details of the Daytona there.

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Old 21 October 2007, 10:40 PM   #13
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Well, there really isn't anything that definitively says it's a fake, so let's leave it here until such time it's shown to be so.
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Old 21 October 2007, 10:52 PM   #14
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I would have said it was a 1991model with the matte bracelet but no inverted '6' so I'm not sure what year it is.
Looks good.
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Old 21 October 2007, 11:05 PM   #15
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There are some indications that point to it being the real thing:

First, let's look at the "16520 Lifecycle Model":



The problem with the provided pic in the thread is that it is VERY hard to see if the centre links are POLISHED or NOT polished.

However, if you compare the outer links to the centre links, the centre links seems to indeed have been polished originally but now being so badly scratched up that they LOOK matte.

Also, note that there is no SEL's on that the 16520 pictured.

As you can see, there is also no "Inverted 6" on the subsidiary chrono dial at six o' clock (inverted 6 = 6 upside down).

So basically from the above chart we can say that this 16520 is 1993 (early) to 1998 (late) S, W, T OR U-series 16520.

Now, if you look at the following article over 16520 dials and bracelets, you can see the "Mark IV" dial (scroll a lot down!):

Daytona 16520 dials and bracelets! CLICK!

If you compare the "Mark IV" dial with the pics in this thread, you see all the right characteristics.

Also, in 1999 the SEL was introduced on the bracelet for the 16520. So the watch being from (at the latest) 1998 is also consistant with NOT having SEL's.

Being restored to its former glory, it would be worth quite a lot of money. I would say about 14,000 to 15,000 US $.

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Old 21 October 2007, 11:36 PM   #16
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There are some indications that point to it being the real thing:

First, let's look at the "16520 Lifecycle Model":



The problem with the provided pic in the thread is that it is VERY hard to see if the centre links are POLISHED or NOT polished.

However, if you compare the outer links to the centre links, the centre links seems to indeed have been polished originally but now being so badly scratched up that they LOOK matte.

Also, note that there is no SEL's on that the 16520 pictured.

As you can see, there is also no "Inverted 6" on the subsidiary chrono dial at six o' clock (inverted 6 = 6 upside down).

So basically from the above chart we can say that this 16520 is 1993 (early) to 1998 (late) S, W, T OR U-series 16520.

Now, if you look at the following article over 16520 dials and bracelets, you can see the "Mark IV" dial (scroll a lot down!):

Daytona 16520 dials and bracelets! CLICK!

If you compare the "Mark IV" dial with the pics in this thread, you see all the right characteristics.

Also, in 1999 the SEL was introduced on the bracelet for the 16520. So the watch being from (at the latest) 1998 is also consistant with NOT having SEL's.

Being restored to its former glory, it would be worth quite a lot of money. I would say about 14,000 to 15,000 US $.



Your vault of information is endless and always prevents me from posting any information because you always say it all
Great info Bo
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Old 21 October 2007, 11:55 PM   #17
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Awesome Bo... never fail to impress me! Thanks for the link!
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