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Ristretto · 20 August 2012, 06:55 AM

Royal Oak Offshore Thread,

Please post your questions, history of the ROO line and whatever you need to know or want to share regarding ROO's.

I also would like to know what is the very first ROO model ?

mb23 · 20 August 2012, 05:51 PM

Emmanuel Gueit the Offshore designer, who was told his design wouldn't work and it would not succeed. Guess the nay-sayers were wrong.

(steel)

The Royal Oak Offshore Steel was introduced in 1993 ref#25721ST.OO.1000ST.01 and later in a Titanium variation.

(titanium)

N_Architect · 20 August 2012, 06:11 PM

Yes, I have a question.

Can someone please guide me how to make the according-to-model distinction between 42mm and 44mm ROO's?

I read about the Pandas, Ginzas, Trullis, FCs, etc. Which ones are 42 and which 44mm?

I'm afraid 44mm would be slightly too large and I intend to opt for a 42mm, hence I'd like to investigate which models are made in the 42mm case.

Many thanks gents.

And one more - is it true that the ROO 42mm case will be discontinued from this year?

Submarino · 20 August 2012, 10:58 PM

Panda, Safari, Volcano, Navy, Diver, etc. are 42mm.

Ginza, Truli and FC are 44mm.

The only FC that are not 44mm are the Bumble Bee and the new Diver that should be hitting the stores late September.

Andrés G · 20 August 2012, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Submarino

Ginza, Truli and FC are 44mm.

The Trulli has a 42mm case.

FightOnSC! · 20 August 2012, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrés G

The Trulli has a 42mm case.

The Ginza is 42mm as well

Submarino · 20 August 2012, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ristretto

Royal Oak Offshore Thread,

Please post your questions, history of the ROO line and whatever you need to know or want to share regarding ROO's.

I also would like to know what is the very first ROO model ?

This one! My 25721ST. Just like the one in the picture of Emmanuel.

If I am not mistaken there were less than a thousand pieces made of this reference. Even though the AP Royal Oak book states that the first 50 pieces actually did not have the engraving with the word 'Offshore' on the case back (because the company was unsure whether they wanted to name the watch 'Challenger' or 'Offshore') I've been able to document that the word Offshore is actually missing on the first 100 pieces of this reference and not in the first 50 as the book states. I happen to know an owner who's reference number is '83' and missing the Offshore engraving. The case back of the first 100 shows Royal Oak in big font just like on the older 5402s.

The idea and the first sketches of the Offshore date back to 1989 as the brand was preparing to celebrate the first 20 years of the Royal Oak and they wanted to come out with another groundbreaking design. Unfortunately, due to internal delays they couldn't release the Offshore until 1993 instead of 1992.

The serial on my watch happens to fall within the first 200 pieces and with the Offshore engraving on the case back.

WhatTheDeuce · 20 August 2012, 11:29 PM

Why do ROOs have to cost so much?

N_Architect · 21 August 2012, 12:16 AM

Thanks for the info gents, much appreciated.

Puffy · 21 August 2012, 01:02 AM

great looking watch

the design definitely works..

kilyung · 21 August 2012, 01:17 AM

I read somewhere that Genta was not a ROO fan. Bah, what does he know?!

Ristretto · 21 August 2012, 04:21 AM

Great thread very informative, I love the early ROO's.

TSW · 21 August 2012, 05:15 AM

Lovely thread!

mb23 · 21 August 2012, 06:51 AM

Would like to see a early model caseback with out the offshore stamping.

Hairdude1 · 21 August 2012, 09:43 AM

Wonderful pics

Submarino · 21 August 2012, 12:00 PM

Here you go! Here you go! I know all is legit because the number difference between the D-Serial number of his case and mine is exactly the difference on the Case No. of his and mine. Exactly 115 pieces apart. Perfect chronological sequence!!!

Wristmaster · 21 August 2012, 02:57 PM

If compared to rolex or panerai (size wise) is 42mm ROO closer to a submariner, or a PAM112? In terms of size and wrist presence.

ChristianN · 21 August 2012, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wristmaster

If compared to rolex or panerai (size wise) is 42mm ROO closer to a submariner, or a PAM112? In terms of size and wrist presence.

Pam on me.

kilyung · 21 August 2012, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wristmaster

If compared to rolex or panerai (size wise) is 42mm ROO closer to a submariner, or a PAM112? In terms of size and wrist presence.

Closer to Panerai IMHO.

Wristmaster · 21 August 2012, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Closer to Panerai IMHO.

That really says it. Thanks for sharing

mb23 · 21 August 2012, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Submarino

Here you go! Here you go! I know all is legit because the number difference between the D-Serial number of his case and mine is exactly the difference on the Case No. of his and mine. Exactly 115 pieces apart. Perfect chronological sequence!!!

Thanks, so weird seeing the back like that.

ChristianN · 21 August 2012, 05:35 PM

That being said - Pams just does not work on me. Especially not the 1950s case (which is a shame because they are stunning to look at). The AP ROO is just between the sub and the PAM for me (and apparently in fact as well, thanks to the brilliant picture above).

So the ROO gives me a big, flashy watch but still within the realm of reason. But you do need to try it on before you buy.

Wristmaster · 21 August 2012, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristianN

That being said - Pams just does not work on me. Especially not the 1950s case (which is a shame because they are stunning to look at). The AP ROO is just between the sub and the PAM for me (and apparently in fact as well, thanks to the brilliant picture above).

So the ROO gives me a big, flashy watch but still within the realm of reason. But you do need to try it on before you buy.

I can rock a GMT, I can Rock a 44mm PAM, but still can't afford an ROO

kilyung · 21 August 2012, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wristmaster

I can rock a GMT, I can Rock a 44mm PAM, but still can't afford an ROO

Get a Diver. It's very reasonably priced... for AP.

eagle_lex · 22 August 2012, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Get a Diver. It's very reasonably priced... for AP.

Plus 1

dpkong · 22 August 2012, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Get a Diver. It's very reasonably priced... for AP.

that does seem to sound like the ROOs are unreasonably priced...

eagle_lex · 22 August 2012, 12:30 AM

they are pricey..... for sure.

Wristmaster · 22 August 2012, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpkong

that does seem to sound like the ROOs are unreasonably priced...

my friend asked me this one day. "Will AP be appreciated as much if it comes cheaper, say, cheaper than rolex?"

food for thought.. food for thought...

eagle_lex · 22 August 2012, 02:02 AM

thats a good question... im new to AP (dont even have mine yet) but i can tell you i about fell over when i tried the diver on in vegas. and we all know thats about as "entry" as you get with AP. the watch just "felt" right. anything else i looked at just didnt seem to draw me anywhere close as that diver. so im moving pieces to get mine.

Dickson Lim · 22 August 2012, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

I read somewhere that Genta was not a ROO fan. Bah, what does he know?!

And Genta dislike to wear watch. Is this the reason?

20 August 2012, 06:55 AM	#1
Ristretto "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: GMT + 3 Watch: Platinum Daytona Posts: 1,322	Royal Oak Offshore Thread Royal Oak Offshore Thread, Please post your questions, history of the ROO line and whatever you need to know or want to share regarding ROO's. I also would like to know what is the very first ROO model ? __________________ “What the mind can conceive, it can achieve.” – Napoleon Hill

20 August 2012, 06:11 PM	#3
N_Architect "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Kons Location: ATH Watch: DD40 Posts: 473	Yes, I have a question. Can someone please guide me how to make the according-to-model distinction between 42mm and 44mm ROO's? I read about the Pandas, Ginzas, Trullis, FCs, etc. Which ones are 42 and which 44mm? I'm afraid 44mm would be slightly too large and I intend to opt for a 42mm, hence I'd like to investigate which models are made in the 42mm case. Many thanks gents. And one more - is it true that the ROO 42mm case will be discontinued from this year? __________________ Travel, See, Feel, Explore.

20 August 2012, 10:58 PM	#4
Submarino "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Mr. H Location: Dallas Watch: them for me! Posts: 7,180	Panda, Safari, Volcano, Navy, Diver, etc. are 42mm. Ginza, Truli and FC are 44mm. The only FC that are not 44mm are the Bumble Bee and the new Diver that should be hitting the stores late September. __________________ WATCHES ARE THE NEW CURRENCY!/ MEMBER 27491/OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED OLD TIMER /AP OWNERS CLUB MEMBER Instagram @watchcollectinglifestyle

21 August 2012, 12:16 AM	#9
N_Architect "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Kons Location: ATH Watch: DD40 Posts: 473	Thanks for the info gents, much appreciated. __________________ Travel, See, Feel, Explore.

21 August 2012, 01:02 AM	#10
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	great looking watch the design definitely works.. __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

20 August 2012, 05:51 PM	#2
mb23 Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: Westchester, NY Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 4,744	Emmanuel Gueit the Offshore designer, who was told his design wouldn't work and it would not succeed. Guess the nay-sayers were wrong. (steel) The Royal Oak Offshore Steel was introduced in 1993 ref#25721ST.OO.1000ST.01 and later in a Titanium variation. (titanium)

20 August 2012, 11:29 PM	#8
WhatTheDeuce "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Kyung Location: Anywhere? Watch: cha want... Posts: 4,488	Why do ROOs have to cost so much?

21 August 2012, 01:17 AM	#11
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	I read somewhere that Genta was not a ROO fan. Bah, what does he know?!

21 August 2012, 04:21 AM	#12
Ristretto "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: GMT + 3 Watch: Platinum Daytona Posts: 1,322	Great thread very informative, I love the early ROO's. __________________ “What the mind can conceive, it can achieve.” – Napoleon Hill

21 August 2012, 05:15 AM	#13
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Lovely thread! __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

21 August 2012, 06:51 AM	#14
mb23 Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: Westchester, NY Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 4,744	Would like to see a early model caseback with out the offshore stamping.

21 August 2012, 09:43 AM	#15
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	Wonderful pics

21 August 2012, 12:00 PM	#16
Submarino "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Mr. H Location: Dallas Watch: them for me! Posts: 7,180	Here you go! Here you go! I know all is legit because the number difference between the D-Serial number of his case and mine is exactly the difference on the Case No. of his and mine. Exactly 115 pieces apart. Perfect chronological sequence!!! Attached Images __________________ WATCHES ARE THE NEW CURRENCY!/ MEMBER 27491/OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED OLD TIMER /AP OWNERS CLUB MEMBER Instagram @watchcollectinglifestyle

21 August 2012, 02:57 PM	#17
Wristmaster "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: A.K.W Location: Indonesia Watch: Me Watching U Posts: 587	If compared to rolex or panerai (size wise) is 42mm ROO closer to a submariner, or a PAM112? In terms of size and wrist presence.

21 August 2012, 05:35 PM	#22
ChristianN Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 229	That being said - Pams just does not work on me. Especially not the 1950s case (which is a shame because they are stunning to look at). The AP ROO is just between the sub and the PAM for me (and apparently in fact as well, thanks to the brilliant picture above). So the ROO gives me a big, flashy watch but still within the realm of reason. But you do need to try it on before you buy.

22 August 2012, 12:30 AM	#27
eagle_lex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Ed Location: Lexington, Ky Watch: AP and Rolex Posts: 541	they are pricey..... for sure.

22 August 2012, 02:02 AM	#29
eagle_lex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Ed Location: Lexington, Ky Watch: AP and Rolex Posts: 541	thats a good question... im new to AP (dont even have mine yet) but i can tell you i about fell over when i tried the diver on in vegas. and we all know thats about as "entry" as you get with AP. the watch just "felt" right. anything else i looked at just didnt seem to draw me anywhere close as that diver. so im moving pieces to get mine.

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