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humberto.soriano · 23 August 2012, 01:40 PM

My dad gave me a Rolex a while ago that he had gotten as a gift from a very wealthy patient of his in Philly. He doesn't really know if it's real or fake or really care, he's very frugal. Still, I'm interested to know if it's a genuine Rolex. I can post photos tomorrow, but I don't know if that's going to be necessary. From what I've investigated Rolex watches don't have any markings on the back. This one does have a very faint (only realized it was there when I held it against the light) engraving on the back that says:

5115
A991342
18k

Now I think that probably means it's a fake. I would like, one day, to be able to afford an elegant watch like this one, and it's not the end of the world if it is fake, and looking around your forums you all seem like a nice bunch of people.

TL;DR: Can anyone confirm that the existence of these engravings on this particular model absolutely means that it's fake?

Thanks in advance for your help!!

PS - I hope this is the right forum for this!

77T · 23 August 2012, 02:02 PM

Welcome to TRF

Can't really give any advice without pictures - can you provide some?

AmbSteve · 23 August 2012, 02:45 PM

Hi Humberto, pics really can tell a lot about a piece and will definitely help. When you get a chance upload a few and you should get some input from the folks here.

crowncollection · 23 August 2012, 09:59 PM

Load the photos properly I for one am not opening a zip file from a 2 post member

robertneville · 24 August 2012, 12:10 AM

files are clean. dont know enough about cellinis to tell

Alcan · 24 August 2012, 01:03 AM

There are a few exceptions to the no caseback engraving, including Cellini. Yours appears to be an authentic Cellini ref. 5115. The serial number would date it to between 1998 and 2000. You'd need to take it to a Rolex watchmaker to verify the movement.

Here are your images:

humberto.soriano · 24 August 2012, 02:08 AM

Thanks so much for putting them up like that, I didn't know how!! I appreciate the input, it's good to know that it appears real. So basically a watchmaker would need to open it up to tell? There are a couple of certified Rolex dealers here in Santiago, I'm guessing that would be the best place to take it. Thanks for the help everyone!!

Alcan · 24 August 2012, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humberto.soriano

There are a couple of certified Rolex dealers here in Santiago, I'm guessing that would be the best place to take it. Thanks for the help everyone!!

You're welcome!

Let us know how it turns out.

crowncollection · 24 August 2012, 06:50 AM

Authentic

77T · 24 August 2012, 02:26 PM

Welcome to TRF and nice Cellini - glad we got to see some pics.

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23 August 2012, 01:40 PM	#1
humberto.soriano "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Santiago Posts: 2	Rolex Classic Cellini 5115 fake? My dad gave me a Rolex a while ago that he had gotten as a gift from a very wealthy patient of his in Philly. He doesn't really know if it's real or fake or really care, he's very frugal. Still, I'm interested to know if it's a genuine Rolex. I can post photos tomorrow, but I don't know if that's going to be necessary. From what I've investigated Rolex watches don't have any markings on the back. This one does have a very faint (only realized it was there when I held it against the light) engraving on the back that says: 5115 A991342 18k Now I think that probably means it's a fake. I would like, one day, to be able to afford an elegant watch like this one, and it's not the end of the world if it is fake, and looking around your forums you all seem like a nice bunch of people. TL;DR: Can anyone confirm that the existence of these engravings on this particular model absolutely means that it's fake? Thanks in advance for your help!! PS - I hope this is the right forum for this!

23 August 2012, 02:02 PM	#2
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,010	Welcome to TRF Can't really give any advice without pictures - can you provide some? __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

23 August 2012, 02:45 PM	#3
AmbSteve "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: San Angelo, TX Watch: Rlx,Omega,JLC,Breg Posts: 1,699	Hi Humberto, pics really can tell a lot about a piece and will definitely help. When you get a chance upload a few and you should get some input from the folks here. __________________

23 August 2012, 09:59 PM	#4
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Load the photos properly I for one am not opening a zip file from a 2 post member __________________ watches many

24 August 2012, 12:10 AM	#5
robertneville "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: PA Watch: me burn Posts: 1,435	files are clean. dont know enough about cellinis to tell __________________ Motocross is life!

24 August 2012, 01:03 AM	#6
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	There are a few exceptions to the no caseback engraving, including Cellini. Yours appears to be an authentic Cellini ref. 5115. The serial number would date it to between 1998 and 2000. You'd need to take it to a Rolex watchmaker to verify the movement. Here are your images: Attached Images __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

24 August 2012, 02:08 AM	#7
humberto.soriano "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Santiago Posts: 2	Thanks so much for putting them up like that, I didn't know how!! I appreciate the input, it's good to know that it appears real. So basically a watchmaker would need to open it up to tell? There are a couple of certified Rolex dealers here in Santiago, I'm guessing that would be the best place to take it. Thanks for the help everyone!!

24 August 2012, 06:50 AM	#9
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Authentic __________________ watches many

24 August 2012, 02:26 PM	#10
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,010	Welcome to TRF and nice Cellini - glad we got to see some pics. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

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